Brian Brown Pledges to Continue the Fight

As the Supreme Court prepares to hear oral argument and rule on state bans on same-sex marriage, Brian Brown of the National Organization for Marriage seems to be concerned that the cushy job he has at his money-bleeding organization may be at risk.

National Organization for Marriage President Brian Brown joined Iowa Republican National Committee member Tamara Scott on her radio program last week, where the two discussed the upcoming Supreme Court decision on marriage equality.

Brown told Scott that a pro-equality decision would be “illegitimate” and anti-LGBT groups would have to emulate the anti-choice movement after Roe and “build a movement that continues to stand and proclaim the truth.”

Smart thinking, Brian. The longer you can keep such a movement going, the longer you can keep drawing a salary and not have to get a real job. Savvy. It won’t work, of course. Americans, even most fundamentalist Christians, are getting more and more used to the idea of marriage equality every day, as the polls clearly show. Opposition is going to fizzle out just like opposition to interracial marriage did. And groups like the National Organization for Marriage will be viewed, in another 10 or 15 years, as the equivalent of the various racist groups that opposed the ruling in Loving v Virginia.

“It may be a generation or two down the line, but this lie about what it means to be a human being cannot stand. It cannot stand,” he said. “And just because the Supreme Court says it’s so, it doesn’t make it so. The Supreme Court has had horrible decisions in the past, horrible decisions like the Dred Scott decision, Plessy v. Ferguson, the Fugitive Slave Act, Roe v. Wade. Just because the Supreme Court said it was so didn’t make it so, and there was an obligation for people living in those times to stand up and say ‘no this is wrong’ and to fight with every ounce of their being for the truth.”

With the exception of Roe v Wade, what do all those other terrible rulings have in common? They were in opposition to equal rights. That’s why, with the advance of more progressive social attitudes, they all lost support completely from the public. The same thing is going to happen here. And then how will Brian Brown be able to feed his 57 children?

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  • Jared James

    Perhaps they can skip the middle part with the donors, and dine on bullshit alone?

  • Pierce R. Butler

    Hold your breath until you turn ultraviolet, Brian!

  • dugglebogey

    Are there guys still out there raising money to fight the “War Against Civil Rights?”

    Unfortunately for Brown, I don’t think they’re raising much cash.

    Like the Beatles said “If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow.”

  • John Pieret

    build a movement that continues to stand and proclaim the truth

    Proclaim away, Brian! Just as long as you don’t do it in the middle of the road and scare the horses!

  • Alareth

    Brown told Scott that a pro-equality decision would be “illegitimate” and anti-LGBT groups would have to emulate the anti-choice movement after Roe and “build a movement that continues to stand and proclaim the truth.

    Sooooooo … Setting off bombs at the offices of officiants who perform gay weddings?

  • cptdoom

    @dugglebogey #3 – According to this Slate article, their fundraising has dropped dramatically (like 50%) and they are $2.5 million in debt (not clear if that includes the $50,000 fine from Maine for violating campaign finance laws that the organization has yet to pay). Something tells me the big donors that have been subsidizing NOM have seen the writing on the wall.

    I also love how Brian is so sure the Right has another Roe on their hands. Yet every time a state gains marriage equality, the press if flooded with pictures of happy couples, with very few protesters in sight. In fact even the scum from Westboro Baptist won’t sink low enough to protest people’s marriages, and polls have shown even those significantly opposed to marriage equality won’t do much about it. Their marches and counter protests show that lack of enthusiasm and that is what is killing the anti-marriage movement.

    Unlike abortion, which is a single action, normally done privately and anonymously, marriage is an ongoing status. You don’t just get married one day, you stay married and in all your interactions with people after that, you are married. So the Right can’t demonize same-sex couples in the same way they demonize women who obtain abortions. It’s easier to scream “baby murderer” about women who obtain abortions in private, and to argue all kinds of social ills because of legal abortion, than it is to claim same-sex couples are destroying society when their friends, family and coworkers are seeing the opposite on a daily basis.

  • marcus

    cptdoom @ 6 I think it is also worth pointing out that a lot of the people you speak of do think that abortion is literally “murder”. That they are wrong in this regard by every possible measure goes without saying in this forum, but believe it they do and they are incredibly passionate about it and they have a very strong impetus to continue fighting. The limited success they’ve had in the legislatures and courts also inspires them to continue their campaign. As you correctly pointed out, almost none of this is true with respect to marriage equality.

  • eric

    Brown told Scott that a pro-equality decision would be “illegitimate” and anti-LGBT groups would have to emulate the anti-choice movement after Roe and “build a movement that continues to stand and proclaim the truth.”

    It will be interesting to see what these groups will do regarding GOP primaries in 2016, given that I think the mainstream GOP candidates aren’t going to fight SSM and probably don’t even want it brought up. Are they going to say nothing? Rock the boat but ultimately support incumbents? Put up primary challengers like the tea party? Leave the party altogether?

    Like Ed, I think there will be almost an evolutionary selection against the most extreme groups: they are going to lose members and funding to the point where their influence is negligible, and the only groups to survive will be the ones that take a more nuanced or mainstream approach. But I could be wrong. And it could be fun to watch.

  • D. C. Sessions


    The people who are adamant regarding their opposition to abortion overwhelmingly got there by one simple route: it’s a tribal shibboleth on the Right. A litmus test. Opposition to marriage equality was much the same — and now it’s drying up. For whatever reason.

  • pixiedust

    “but this lie about what it means to be a human being cannot stand. It cannot stand,””

    So. I missed the part about the lie. Is he saying that gays who marry aren’t even human beings? Or that gays generally aren’t human beings? If they aren’t human, what are they?

  • jnorris

    It doesn’t help the anti-LGBT groups’ cause when all the terrible bad things SSM will bring never happen(ed).

  • dingojack

    pixiedust – Apparently the entirety of ‘being human’ for RWNJs boils down to inserting tab A only into slot B.



  • NYC atheist

    @10 pixiedust

    Duh, of course they’re not PEOPLE! They’re THE GHEY. Won’t someone Think of the Children?!?!

    I think I got that right. Did I do the Random Capitalization right?

  • StevoR

    @12. dingojack : Unless we’re talking about priests esp. Catholic variety although .. hmm .. even there more theory than practice. (Pukes.)