Lane Thinks Pastors Will Be Forced to ‘Celebrate’ Gay Marriage

The fearmonger from the right over same-sex marriage is reaching a fever pitch as we get closer to the Supreme Court ruling in June that they know will likely go against them. David Lane, the Christian right kingmaker, thinks ministers will be forced to “give approval” to The Gay.

What homosexuals do in their home is none of my business. What does concern me is the reign of terror, now becoming old hat, that they impose on anyone who will not celebrate their sexual lifestyle. They evidently intend their worldview to be forced upon all others. When the coming storm arrives, Christian pastors will have to make a choice. Either capitulate on the Gospel by giving approval to the homosexual lifestyle, or—go to jail.

He bases this on the case of the florist in Oregon, but that has absolutely nothing to do with churches or pastors. She runs a for-profit business, which is not allowed to discriminate. Churches are explicitly exempted from all anti-discrimination laws, and even if they weren’t the courts would give them such an exemption through the ministerial exception based on the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment. This is just demagoguery.

Through His Word, God fully declared His mind regarding sexual sin—whether it is fornication, heterosexual adultery, homosexuality, or any other form proscribed in the Bible. God defines sin, not the U.S. Supreme Court, “vice stalking in virtue’s garb”.

And God, being altogether holy, sets Himself in battle array against those who rebel against His Word.

And God says that not keeping the sabbath holy is a sin (if you believe the Bible is the word of God, which of course I don’t). And that worshiping other gods is a sin (it’s the very first commandment). So by your “reasoning,” the government cannot allow anyone to be anything but a Christian, right? There are only two choices here, if you actually think your argument is valid. Either you’re a complete theocrat or you’re engaged in special pleading and only want the government to enforce “God’s law” when you think it should and not when you think it shouldn’t.

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  • whheydt

    So why isn’t he campaigning to outlaw divorce?

  • teawithbertrand

    “What homosexuals do in their home is none of my business.”

    Yep. Now go pick on someone else, asshole.

  • John Pieret

    Either you’re a complete theocrat or you’re engaged in special pleading

    There’s that “or” again … I’m reasonably sure Lane would be happy to legally require everyone be his version of Christian if he could get away with it but, since he knows he can’t, he is more than happy to engage in special pleading to get as much theocracy as he can.

  • Donnie

    It kills me,

    “give approval” to The Gay

    As a heterosexual couple, my wife and I could not get married in most churches unless we were already “members” of that Church. The fact that a lot of the evangelicals and all believe that their churches will be forced to perform LGBT weddings without seeing the inherent hypocrisy in not allowing heterosexuals to use their churches for weddings is….facepalm worthy….

  • Tobinius

    What [fundamentalist Christians] do in their home is none of my business. What does concern me is the reign of terror, now becoming old hat, that they impose on anyone who will not celebrate their [religious beliefs]. They evidently intend their worldview to be forced upon all others. When the coming storm arrives, [non-Christians] will have to make a choice. Either capitulate [to] the Gospel by giving approval to the [Theocrats], or—go to jail.

    Fify.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    whheydt “So why isn’t he campaigning to outlaw divorce?”

    Because that could effect me. God’s Laws are meant to negatively effect groups I don’t like, not me.

  • RickR

    What homosexuals do in their home is none of my business.

    And yet, you continued blathering. Most sane people, even those who disapprove of gay people, would’ve stopped right there.

  • http://ingles.homeunix.net/ Ray Ingles

    Nah, it’s cool. Pastors can always cite this precedent. It may not paint them in a flattering light, but…

  • dugglebogey

    Churches are exempted from anti-discrimination laws, otherwise southern churches might be forced to have nig….I mean non-traditional members in their congregations.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    … God, being altogether holy, sets Himself in battle array against those who rebel …

    Wow – does he go for the whole medieval chain-mail style, or go naked but for blue paint like an old Pict, or wear flowing samurai robes with his hair in a braid, or gear up in modern battle-rattle with Kevlar™ jacket and secure-internet-enabled helmet and M-16 carried in that odd limp-wristed way, or beyond that to full Imperial Storm Trooper® whities, or …?

  • scienceavenger

    What does concern me is the reign of terror, now becoming old hat, that they impose on anyone who will not celebrate their sexual lifestyle.

    I do not celebrate the homosexual lifestyle.

    [looks around]

    No reign of terror here.

  • wreck

    “God defines sin, not the U.S. Supreme Court”

    Get back to me when you’re ready to rant about the abomination that is Red Lobster (except for the cheesy biscuits).

  • lorn

    “All will rejoice … under pain of death”

    Flash Gordon (1980)

  • D. C. Sessions

    God defines sin, not the U.S. Supreme Court

    Quite right. And the US Supreme Court defines the law, not “God” or those who claim to speak for “Him.”

    So what’s the point?

  • llewelly

    What they are really afraid of is the possibility that churches will face their own members demanding the churches support lgbtq marriage. They’ll be faced with a choice: give up bigotry, or lose members. That started happening to the Episcopalians quite a few years ago. It’s happening to the Mormons right now.

    They’re just trying to shift the blame to big bad government.

  • busterggi

    I would like to see pastors wear party hats at all weddings – if they want to celebrate they should go all the way.

  • vmanis1

    Very few Christians (except for `Seventh-Day’ churches) keep (or even recognize the Sabbath). If one can’t even get the Commandments right, it seems grossly impious to go around claiming to be able to identify sin.

    So there!

  • dingojack

    28 July, 1794. With the fall of Citizen Gayspierre the nine-month Reign of Terror came to an end.

    Finally — no ‘Real Christians’™ had to fear being criticised and ridiculed for failing to provide the goods & services (that they had advertised as being generally available) to people that they thought were thoroughly ‘icky’, nasty & sinful, just like their God (or their Pastor, at any rate) had told ’em…

    @@

    Dingo

  • anubisprime

    @ OP

    Lane ‘Thinks’ Pastors Will Be……

    Ahh…there Ed right there…I see the problem.

  • heddle

    There are some well-deserved mockings of Lane on this page, and some questions that Christians should be asking, but there are some dumb comments as well, such as:

    llewelly,

    What they are really afraid of is the possibility that churches will face their own members demanding the churches support lgbtq marriage.

    Really? You know this? How? How do you know what “they” are afraid of? FWIW I doubt it very much. The liberal/conservative breakup of mainstream denominations is fresh enough that, in general, conservative churches are filled with conservatives and liberal churches with liberals. I think it is much more likely that a conservative church would be unperturbed by a pro same-sex congregant leaving rather than fear it.

    vmanis1,

    Very few Christians (except for `Seventh-Day’ churches) keep (or even recognize the Sabbath). If one can’t even get the Commandments right, it seems grossly impious to go around claiming to be able to identify sin.

    So there!

    This is stupid on two levels. It is so-oft repeated that I’m amazed someone would post it, presumably with the thought: “wow, somebody out there probably hasn’t considered this pearl of wisdom!’ And secondly, any fifth grader in any church I ever belonged to could destroy this as a substantive criticism of Christian practices vis-à-vis scripture in about 10 seconds. So there!

  • dingojack

    vmanis1 – clearly Heddle hasn’t the intellect of even the dullest church-going 5 year old, so you’re safe…

    :) Dingo

  • bybelknap

    It took a little more than ten seconds to read, but yeah, heddle is right, there’s plenty of stuff in the NT showing the change in the day of the christan sabbath. It doesn’t make the absolute unchanging word of god claims any less silly, but heddle is right. The ten commandments are obsolete.