The Worldnetdaily vs…John Hagee?

Here’s another one of those “who the hell do you root for in this battle” questions. The Worldnetdaily and Joseph Farah are attacking and even threatening to sue TV evangelist John Hagee, who actually used to be a columnist for them, for allegedly taking credit for all that “blood moons” nonsense they’ve been pushing at WND.

WND has issued a demand letter to San Antonio mega-pastor John Hagee for a public retraction of his claim to be the “discoverer” of the blood-moons phenomenon in his new movie set for release Monday in theaters across America.

Hagee makes the claim in the new movie called “Four Blood Moons,” based on his New York Times bestselling book of the same name, saying: “The thing that compelled me to write the ‘Four Blood Moons’ was when I discovered the scientific fact NASA was pointing out that it happened in 1492 and it happened in 1948 and it happened in 1967 and it was going to happen in 2015.”

But the discovery was actually made by Pastor Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries of Bonney Lake, Washington, seven years ago – a finding he has discussed in his church, on Christian television, at public conferences ever since and which he describes in detail in his own bestselling book, “Blood Moons,” and a bestselling movie of the same name. In fact, Biltz has been known since 2008 as “the blood moons pastor” and even “Blood Moons Biltz.” Hagee’s book was published in the fall of 2013.

The blood moons tetrad is a mysterious astronomical occurrence discovered by a Seattle-area pastor who postulated beginning in 2008 that it might portend spiritually significant developments for Israel and the rest of the world because of their appearance on the biblical “feast” days of Passover and Tabernacles.

Actually, there’s nothing “mysterious” about “blood moons.” They are well understood and entirely predictable.

Earth’s shadow is red at the edges for the same reason a sunset is red: When sunlight is scattered by passing through Earth’s atmosphere, the other colors of the spectrum are removed.

Nor is it “mysterious” why people like Hagee, Blitz and the Worldnetdaily have been promoting this totally non-mysterious atmospheric phenomenon: They are fantasists who know they can make a lot of money peddling this kind of meaningless bullshit to their ignorant followers.

“I ‘discovered’ this bullshit.”

“No, I discovered this bullshit.”

Such a compelling argument.

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  • Martin Wagner

    Baffled by the claim that this movie was going to be released “in theaters across America” on a Monday, which no one does (opening weekends are kind of an important thing), I had to find out more, and sure enough: this is one of those one-night-only, single-screening affairs. Further investigation on IMDb revealed the following gem of awesomeness in this “documentary”‘s cast list:

    Dinesh D’Souza……..Himself

    Pure. Comedy. Gold.

  • John Pieret

    The thing that compelled me to write the ‘Four Blood Moons’ was when I discovered the scientific fact NASA was pointing out

    Sounds like NASA “discovered” it.

  • raven


    which began with the April 2014 lunar eclipse is a sign of the end times as described in the Bible in Acts 2:20 and Revelation 6:12.


    Around 2008, Biltz began predicting that the Second Coming of Jesus would occur in the fall of 2015

    with the seven years of the great tribulation beginning in the fall of 2008. He said he had “discovered” an astronomical pattern that predicted the next tetrad would coincide with the end times. When the prediction failed, he pulled the article from his website, but continued to teach on the “significance” of the tetrad.

    It is even stranger than Ed says.

    Biltz originally predicted, based on the tetrad of Blood Moons that the End Times would start in 2008 and Jesus would show up in Fall, 2015.

    It never happened and he edited his website, secure in the knowledge that his clueless followers have the memory and attention span of fruit flies.

    PS Wikipedia: (the remaining two eclipses will take place on April 4, 2015 and September 28, 2015)

  • Trebuchet

    Bonney Lake? Been there. To a Medieval Faire! Some crazy people at that one, too.

    The dispute between Hagee and WND is, of course, all about the Benjamins.

  • raven

    Apocalypse has Started – Apocalypse Prophesied 2008- 2015

    Babushka concept books predicted a date of September 23, 2015, overlaying with Yom Kippur linked to the equinox [9/21]. Five days later will start with …

    FWIW, a large number of kooks AKA fundie xians have jumped on the Blood Moon band wagon. They are predicting the End Times, Apocalypse, and/or return of jesus in September, 2015. Five months from now.

    It isn’t going to happen as usual. And as usual, no one is going to care either way.

  • timgueguen

    I would imagine someone came up with the idea “blood moons”=evil tidings before Jesus even (non?) existed.

  • caseloweraz

    Is WND going to sue all the other authors of “Blood Moons” books? Seems like they’d be inconsistent if they don’t.

    Oh, wait — this is the WND. Never mind.

  • llewelly


    “who the hell do you root for in this battle”

    The more nearly balanced the battle is, the more resources both sides will waste in it. Don’t root for either side; root for both sides to keep fighting.

  • Modusoperandi

    Actually, Four Blood Moons is the film adaptation of the second half of the third book in the young adult Moons trilogy. It follows 2009’s indy hit Moon, 1988’s Two Moon Junction and 2009’s Three Wolf Moon.

  • llewelly

    Martin Wagner:

    Baffled by the claim that this movie was going to be released “in theaters across America” on a Monday, which no one does (opening weekends are kind of an important thing)

    Possibly the theaters figured the movie was craptacular, and didn’t want it taking up the good spots.

  • dingojack

    llewelly — what? Not even coming to a church basement near you?!?

    Say it ain’t so!

    @@ Dingo

  • Gregory in Seattle

    Why root for anyone? Just sit in the bleachers with a big bag of popcorn and scream for blood on the sand.

  • Larry

    In fact, Biltz has been known since 2008 as “the blood moons pastor” and even “Blood Moons Biltz.”

    Now they are stepping on some toes. As baseball fans know, Adolph “Blood Moons” Biltz was a pitcher for Chicago Cubs from 1939 to 1942. He’s most noted for a string of 5 consecutive starts in the 1941 season where he failed to make it out of the first inning. He received his nickname from a locker room incident involving a can of red paint and the showing of his buttocks to some reporters after a particularly bad outing.

  • blf

    PoliceGoon training, US soldier admits killing unarmed Afghans for sport: “Jeremy Morlock, 23, tells US military court he was part of a ‘kill team’ that faked combat situations to murder Afghan civilians”.

  • blf

    Oops! My comment@14 was not intended for this thread… Sorry.

  • otrame

    What I can’t figure out is why the 4 “Blood Moons” that happened in the 40s and in the 60s did not mean the End Times.

  • kantalope

    @16 otrame

    And in 2016 you’ll be wondering by the one in 2015 didn’t mean anything either.

  • Nigel Appleton

    I think they should sue each other to the max, using the most expensive lawyers available.

  • sundiver

    One grifter moving in on another’s territory. Get some popcorn, kick back and enjoy the pissing contest.