Bryan Fischer Award Nominee: Bryan Fischer

Bryan Fischer proves once again why I named this award after him, given for those who display a staggering lack of self-awareness and accuse their opponents of their own worst sins. His gift for psychological projection reaches comic levels as he accuses gay rights activists of worshiping — I kid you not — a vengeful, hateful god.

Outraged by the criticism and threats directed against an Indiana pizza parlor that said it would refuse to cater a gay wedding, Fischer declared that since people “become like the god that you worship,” then the god that is worshiped by gay activists must be absolutely awful.

“Think about what you see in the homosexual community,” he said, “and what it tells you about the god that they must worship. Whether they recognize it or not, whether they know it or not, but the god that they worship is vengeful, he is vitriolic, he is venomous, he is hateful, he drives his followers to trap a good-hearted American family in their home, like Anne Frank, in fear of their lives simply for what they believe.”

“So if you turn out to be like the god that you worship,” he asked, “what kind of god must homosexual activists serve?”

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  • scienceavenger

    … the god that they worship is vengeful, he is vitriolic, he is venomous, he is hateful…

    So they worship Yahweh like you?

  • Sastra

    My understanding is that some of the critics went waaay overboard and the owners of the pizza parlor were more or less justified in cowering in fear and going into hiding: death threats, vandalism, and an absolute torrent of very cruel insults can do that. What a gift for the homophobes! They can blithely forget the principles, ignore the actual issue, and draw attention to / conclusions from assholes on the internet.

  • StevoR

    #@ Sastra : Really? Citations to back that up please? Note the mere say so of homophobes is not that convincing.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    StevoR, you have seen people on the internet, right?

  • John Pieret

    StevoR:

    Citations? You mean like gamergaters? MRAs? PUAs?

  • Paul Neubauer

    @StevoR in #3: see High school coach suspended after Tweet about pizzeria

    Sastra is right (again). See also Niven’s Laws especially #16.

  • Sastra

    StevoR #3 wrote:

    Really? Citations to back that up please? Note the mere say so of homophobes is not that convincing.

    Well, no, I’m not sure of all that’s been reported, I’m going by what I’ve seen on mainstream news which as you point out may not be entirely reliable.

    Specifically, the golf coach’s tweet about “burning down” the pizza place seems true enough and the Yelp page looks suspiciously hacked (don’t say the pizza tastes terrible if you haven’t eaten it.) The rest of it re the ‘death threats’ and ‘threatening phone calls’ is unconfirmed — at least, I can’t find examples easily — but frankly I don’t think it’s that unlikely that there were at least a few. In any large group of outraged people it’s probably pretty safe to say that some have gone overboard.

    And given that these bigots were ordinary folk bigots who had no experience with what happens when you take a stupid cause into the limelight I can well imagine that they cowered in fear.

  • blf

    I do not know if Sastra‘s claim is true or not, but it is plausible and “has previous”, with a very similar incident happening here at FtB in the past: PZ posted an article about a gay(? transsexual?) teenager who committed suicide after this parent’s kept rejecting his concerns and instead sent him to (as I now recall) priests and cult summer camps and the like. One of the commentators posted the parents’s address and phone numbers (which as far as I know were genuine), and, whilst not explicitly calling for violence or the threat of violence, denied that such information could be used for such purposes, denied that it presented a risk to only the parents but also their other children, and denied that posting such information went too far.

  • The Other Lance

    I dunno. Sounds like he’s describing the god of the Old Testemant… Hateful, yep, Vengeful, yep. etc. etc. etc….

  • Michael Heath

    Bryan Fischer states:

    the god that they worship is vengeful, he is vitriolic, he is venomous, he is hateful…</blockquote?

    scienceavenger responds:

    So they worship Yahweh like you?

    Jesus as described in the New Testament is infinitely more evil than what Fischer describes here. Let’s not forget that the Bible has Jesus himself judging humans where he threatens that some will suffer unimaginably for all of eternity.

    Jesus gets far too big a very undeserved break from some liberals.

  • theguy

    “Think about what you see in the homosexual community… and what it tells you about the god that they must worship.”

    Their god is a live and let live type? Most gay people just want to live their lives without facing discrimination and imprisonment.

    “Whether they recognize it or not, whether they know it or not”

    This is a convenient fundie phrase they use to give themselves carte blanche to lie about other people’s beliefs. It’s how they pretend that Muslims worship the devil.

    “but the god that they worship is vengeful’

    Adolf Fischsticks believes in a god who sends natural disasters to murder people.

    “he is vitriolic, he is venomous”

    And you’re not, you piece of shit?

    “he is hateful”

    Your god is infinitely hateful, because he damns people to suffer forever.

    “he drives his followers to trap a good-hearted”

    Citation needed.

    “American family in their home, like Anne Frank, in fear of their lives simply for what they believe.”

    Your god would probably have damned Anne Frank to hell for not believing in Jesus. And the discriminatory business owners are not being persecuted. They’ve collected almost a million dollars in wingnut welfare.

    For the record, I am opposed to death threats. But most death threats are not being targeted towards right-wing Christians. They are coming from right-wing Christians, against gay people, against rape victims, and especially against people who sue the government for church-state entanglements (even though most of the plaintiffs, IIRC, are themselves Christians).

  • felidae

    “So if you turn out to be like the god that you worship,” he asked, “what kind of god must homosexual activists serve?”

    Bryan, certainly not the hateful one you serve

  • Pierce R. Butler

    …what kind of god must homosexual activists serve?

    And how much for one with jalapeños and double mushrooms?

  • dingojack

    “… he drives his followers to trap a good-hearted American family in their home…”

    Well — only one out of the hundred million (or so) families in America? Those are pretty long odds, Bryan.

    Dingo

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