Welfare Drug Testing Totally Not Focused on Poor

A Republican legislator from Indiana actually managed to make a claim that was so breathtakingly stupid that he got called out on it by Brian Kilmeade. That’s like Paris Hilton calling you shallow. The legislator actually said that a bill he sponsored that would apply mandatory drug testing to welfare recipients is totally not focused on poor people.

On a Fox & Friends segment called “Entitlement Nation,” host Brian Kilmeade noted that critics of Indiana’s drug testing bill had argued that it singled out and stereotyped the poor.

“I think it’s going to save a whole bunch of money,” McMillin told Kilmeade. “And it certainly isn’t focusing on poor people. What it focuses on is people who are using drugs.”

This claim puzzled the Fox News host.

“If you’re on welfare, usually you don’t have that much money,” he reasoned. “So it might not be wrong to label them poor people.”

“Well, it might not be wrong to label them less — you’re correct, they don’t have as much money as some other folks do,” McMillin admitted. “But just because they don’t have that money doesn’t mean we shouldn’t make sure taxpayer dollars are used efficiently when they do get it.”

Oh, it’s just about making sure taxpayer dollars are not used for drugs. Okay then, let’s subject all elected officials to mandatory drug testing, including you. After all, you’re paid with taxpayer dollars. And all the executives at every company that has a contract with the state of Indiana. That’s taxpayer money too. When you do that, I might believe that you aren’t focusing on poor people. Until then, you’re a fucking liar.

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  • Al Dente

    In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread. –Anatole France

  • Glenn E Ross

    So many people are afraid that someone somewhere will get something for nothing that they are willing to punish those who really have need. I guess we truly are a Christian nation.

  • John Pieret

    he got called out on it by Brian Kilmeade

    Whoa! … Talk about leaving a mark!

  • http://onhandcomments.blogspot.com/ left0ver1under

    To no surprise, not a single mention is made in any news item of the company will do the drug testing. Most already know this, but for those who don’t, the lab which did the drug testing in Florida was partly owned by governor Rick Scott, the republican who pushed for drug testing.

    Testing welfare recipients for drugs is not about the poor committing welfare fraud. This is the rich committing corporate welfare fraud – they pocket taxpayer money and do unnecessary testing. It was true in Florida, true in Arizona, true in Utah, and will be true everywhere else. In every case, the testing cost US taxpayers more money than any “savings” from the few positive tests.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    left0ver1under “In every case, the testing cost US taxpayers more money than any “savings” from the few positive tests.”

    Sure, but it’s a Moral Victory over The Undeserving Poor.

  • Artor

    This is so fucking stoopid. It’s been done before, and found to be a massive waste of funding, since yes, indeed, people on welfare don’t have the fucking money to spare for drugs, and they use them at a significantly lower rate than the general population. We know this, so any asswipe who is still trying to push this bullshit has no cover to hide behind. It’s expensive, punitive, and ineffective, unless the desired effect is to punish & humiliate…poor people.

  • raven

    This is part of the GOP War on Poor People. It’s basically Nathanial Hawthorne’s Scarlet A for them.

    Indiana is following in Kansas’s footsteps but are way behind.

    No going to swimming pools, movies on welfare dime | The …

    www. kansas. com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/now…/article17800541.html

    Apr 7, 2015 – “Kansas families receiving government assistance will no longer be able …. Hawaiian vacations, lobster dinners, ocean cruises, Lamborghinis, …

    At least the War on the Poverty Stricken is a three for. Most welfare recipients are single mothers. They get to beat up on the poor, women, and children all at once.

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    mandatory drug testing to welfare recipients is totally not focused on poor people

    If Mitt Romney was getting welfare it would totally apply to him, too! Or something.

  • sugarfrosted

    The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.

    –Anatole France, The Red Lily, 1894, chapter 7


    Apr 7, 2015 – “Kansas families receiving government assistance will no longer be able …. Hawaiian vacations, lobster dinners, ocean cruises, Lamborghinis, …

    Hilariously lobster is a really cheap food nowadays, their range has expanded to the point that the market prices has collapsed. It’s just that it’s an old status symbol. This reminds me of the time Fox News ranted about “flat screen televisions”. Also out of all of these, that’s the one I see that someone in that situation might actually buy, and it’s not really a luxury item.

  • raven

    Indiana reports jump in new HIV cases in rural outbreak excerpts


    (Reuters) – An HIV outbreak in southeastern Indiana related to abuse of intravenous prescription drugs has jumped by 24 cases in the past week, an increase attributed to offering more testing resources, state health officials said on Friday.

    The outbreak centered in rural Scott County near the border with Kentucky has reached 130 cases, including 10 preliminary positive tests, up from 106 a week ago, health officials said.

    A needle exchange program started April 4 for Scott County residents has so far distributed 5,322 clean syringes to 86 people and collected 1,400 used syringes, health officials said.

    Although Indiana bans needle exchanges, Governor Mike Pence has authorized a short-term program to address the outbreak by providing drug users with sterile needles.

    Once again the anti-human ideology of the christofascists causes major damage.

    Indiana bans needle exchanges. They now have 130 more HIV+ IV drug users. This is going to cost them millions down the line as they go on HAART for life, usually paid for by the state.

    PS My local area has a small population of HIV+ IV drug users. And a needle exchange program. During a budget crisis, they cut the needle exchange out. There was an immediate jump in HIV+…IV drug users. Whenever they have a budget problem, one thing they never cut anymore is..the needle exchange program.

    PPS About all I can conclude about the Indiana GOP or the GOP in general is that they are dull witted, mean and viscious vaguely human toads. It’s a fundie xian thing, I guess.

  • dan4

    @10: Nothing “mean,” of course about calling people “vaguely human toads.”

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    dan4’s got a point. There’s no need to smear toads with punching-down, poor-baiting, pharisaical Republicanism.

  • magistramarla

    I grew up on welfare and my mother, who was mostly uneducated, was always deathly afraid that she would be “caught” if she bought anything expensive. I will never forget the day that I messed up and bought something expensive when I was a teen.

    I was at the meat counter of our local grocer, and the butcher was selling t-bone steaks to the person next to me. I made a comment about wishing that I could try a t-bone steak, since I had never had steak.

    The butcher mistook that as ordering a steak, and wrapped one up for me. I didn’t notice it with my packages of hamburger and chicken and went on to pay for the groceries with food stamps.

    When my mother found the steak, it was one of my more memorable beatings for “wasting” our meager food stamps on an expensive steak. She angrily fried the t-bone for me and made me eat every bite.

    I didn’t understand why steaks were so popular, since that one didn’t taste any different from a fried pork chop to me.

    A few years later, after I was engaged, my future father-in-law bought me my first proper steak dinner at a restaurant, and I finally understood the appeal of a well-cooked steak.

    Sadly, the draconian rules that the conservatives are trying to impose upon welfare recipients might make more children suffer the way that I did as a child. Adult frustrations do tend to be taken out on the children.

  • marcus

    sugarfrosted @ 9 “This reminds me of the time Fox News ranted about “flat screen televisions”.”

    If I remember correctly that list also included “cell phones” and “refrigerators”.

    The mind boggles at the unmitigated cluelessness.