Lively: Only Mob Violence Can Stop Gay Marriage

Scott Lively is getting more and more strident in his claims about gay marriage. More strident than claiming that the Nazis were really gay? Yep. Now he says that the only way to stop gay marriage in America is for a mob with pitchforks and torches in the streets.

The battle today is for marriage, the core of the natural family. Every human being on this planet will be harmed if the elites are allowed to destroy it by mutation. It is no different than Monsanto destroying natural foods or seeds by mutating their DNA, or Big Pharma destroying bodies by flooding the health industry with artificial, often poisonous “remedies.” Our common paradigm in the grass roots for guiding society should be natural-vs.-artificial across the board, including natural marriage and family, rejecting the counterfeit alternatives to the self-evident design of our ecology – and our physiology.

The natural family is the ecosystem of humanity! It must be preserved at all costs.

How? By a populist uprising! The elites need to see the angry mob – liberals and conservatives together – surging through the streets, pitchforks and torches held aloft, ready to tear down Frankenstein’s castle with their bare hands if need be. For Christians it’s Jesus and the moneychangers time! Making a whip of cords like He did with His own hands, and letting these arrogant puppet-masters know we mean to use it (metaphorically speaking)…

The only way to deter the elites is with the threat of the mob. They need to see the pitchforks and torches to know they’ve gone too far and need to back down.

Yeah, but here’s the problem Mr. Lively: You don’t have much of a mob left. Most Americans now support marriage equality and the numbers are going up every day. You lost. And your pseudo-violent fantasies aren’t going to do a thing to change that.

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  • JustaTech

    Gay marriage, Monsanto, GMO (indirectly) *and* Big Pharma! That’s whole new crank crossover. Usually you get people (on the internet) who talk about either gay marriage or Monsanto and Big Pharma, but I’ve never seen anyone run them all together.

    Maybe he’s trying to appeal to hippies?

  • http://howlandbolton.com richardelguru

    He got SSM, GMO and Anti-VAX: how the hell did he miss AGW??

  • http://freethoughtblogs.com/axp/ Martin Wagner

    The complete lack of self-awareness from Christian homophobes is so severe it suggests actual brain damage. Their whole line is that LGBT marriage would be “devastating” to society, and then immediately go on literally to threaten mob violence. I really think religious fundamentalism needs to start being included in the DSM as a serious psychiatric condition or personality disorder.

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    He does realize that gay marriage is already happening in lots of places and the mobs haven’t risen?

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    how the hell did he miss AGW??

    SSM does cause chemtrails. I read that somewhere.

  • http://freethoughtblogs.com/axp/ Martin Wagner

    Also, this:

    Yeah, but here’s the problem Mr. Lively: You don’t have much of a mob left.

    Don’t be so confident, Ed. We all know what 19 Muslims with box cutters pulled off.

  • dhall

    ” . . . liberals and conservatives together . . .”

    So, he really doesn’t know the liberal position on SSM?

  • theguy

    “It is no different than Monsanto destroying natural foods or seeds by mutating their DNA, or Big Pharma destroying bodies by flooding the health industry with artificial, often poisonous “remedies.”

    I’ll admit to not knowing much about GMO’s, but it sounds like they could increase the food supply, which would be very good for starving people. Must be why Shitely opposes it.

    “rejecting the counterfeit alternatives to the self-evident design of our ecology – and our physiology.”

    Sounds like more “penis goes in vagina, therefore everything else is wrong” bullshit. Fortunately for me, I don’t believe in “design” and don’t use dog whistles like “natural family”

    “The elites need to see the angry mob”

    That’s all that fundies have ever been.

    “liberals and conservatives together”

    What? Liberals are going to join a bunch of foaming at the mouth fundamentalist murderers?

    “surging through the streets, pitchforks and torches held aloft”

    Sounds like Shitely has a white hood he’d like to try on.

    At least these degenerate pieces of shit are finally starting to admit what they really want: A genocidal holy war.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Of course Mr. Lively has more important things to do than actually, like, gather and lead a mob. After all, his leadership is too important to the Cause to risk him being arrested (although he does advise his followers to engage in “civil disobedience.”) He is more of a Martin Luther King figure in that regard.

  • Doug Little

    Wow add conspiracy nut to the list.

  • wreck

    “Our common paradigm in the grass roots for guiding society should be natural-vs.-artificial across the board”

    Says the hairless ape in a column on the internet.

    “it’s Jesus and the moneychangers time!”

    Man did they put on a great show in Atlanta back in ’82.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    We have to destroy this country to save it from you destroying it. That’s just common sense.

     

    The elites need to see the angry mob – liberals and conservatives together – surging through the streets, pitchforks and torches held aloft, ready to tear down Frankenstein’s castle with their bare hands if need be…

    Sure, but the liberals will get there first, on account of them riding the Pride floats. Sure, they’re slow, but they’re still faster than the conservatives’ Medicare-provided electric scooters.

     

    Marcus Ranum “He does realize that gay marriage is already happening in lots of places and the mobs haven’t risen?”

    Mobs did. And do. HomoMobs. Why, at least two or three times a day I have to lock up my Christian bakery and hide in the corner until they pass. Then I have to sweep up their glitter.

  • Mr Ed

    So Luddites in brown shirts then.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    D. C. Sessions “He is more of a Martin Luther King figure in that regard.”

    Luckily, the arc of the moral universe is flexible.

  • blf

    SSM does cause chemtrails…

    The slightly more sensible person would argue that it’s the other way around: Chemtrails are a liquefied Teh Gay GMO vaccine, made from aborted fetuses, and is what’s causing the mass outbreaks of SSM-against-the-people’s-will.

    Teh Gay GMO vaccine is being dispensed, as everyone knows, to camouflage the rapid cooling of the Earth’s climate, and thus keeping those billions and billions of dollars pouring into environmentalist’s pockets. Tricking people into ranting about SSM makes them forget about AGW. Because Benghazi.

    (Oh fecking bloody shite-on-a-stick, Preview has stopped working, again!)

  • John Pieret

    Doug Little:

    Wow add conspiracy nut to the list.

    There is even a term for it: “crank magnetism.”

  • U Frood

    I’ve been holding out for almost 4 years of gay marriage in New York. My family still hasn’t been destroyed, whew.

  • raven

    Now he says that the only way to stop gay marriage in America is for a mob with pitchforks and torches in the streets.

    Well, he might be right.

    It isn’t going to happen though. Americans are too sedentary and apathetic. They will just watch Fox NoNews and complain that they are being persecuted.

    One huge reason why Scott Lively et al. failed is clear. SSM doesn’t effect them and it is no one’s business who marries who anyway.

    The battle today is for marriage, the core of the natural family

    Natural law fallacy. Natural law doesn’t exist. If god had wanted humans to live in the temperate zones, we would have all been born with thick fur coats like my cats. And snow shovels would grow on trees.

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    By the way, given that there are parts of the world, such as Pakistan, where mobs really do kill secularists and homosexuals, I think it’s appalling that some horrible fanatical doucheweasel would call for such things here.

  • Chiroptera

    …liberals and conservatives together….

    He’d better be careful what he wishes for. I mean, when it comes to rank and file conservatives, I seem to recall (perhaps incorrectly) that two points of agreement that they have with liberals are in favor of net neutrality and opposition to Citizens United.

  • zevonsky72

    The only way to deter the elites is with the threat of the mob.

    And what exactly would this mob do? Demand the right to be married? They already have that right.

    How does a mob actually do something concrete about someone else’s legal status? Are they going to walk up to a gay family and demand that they disavow their own marriage? Are they going to the IRS and demand that gay families lose their tax breaks? Are they going to picket hospitals who let a person visit his dying same-sex spouse?

    The optics for this are horrible best. Don’t these folks have any sense of self-awareness?

  • Chiroptera

    zevonsky72, #21:

    I’m guessing that they are going to steadfastly, resolutely, come hell or high water, refuse to get gay married.

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    @Marcus Ranum

    He’s already been encouraging that sort of thing in Africa, so he might as well bring it home. Remember, this is the guy who is proud of his sponsorship of the “kill the gays” legislation in Uganda. His calls for violence here aren’t rhetoric. He believes it. He wants it.

  • peterh

    With apologies to #3, “The complete lack of self-awareness from Christian homophobes is so severe it suggests …” what uncontrolled breeding can lead to.

  • whheydt

    Let me know when Mr. Lively trades in his family dog for a wolf. After all, dogs are artificial and wolves are natural…

  • caseloweraz

    Scott Lively: The battle today is for marriage, the core of the natural family. Every human being on this planet will be harmed if the elites are allowed to destroy it by mutation.

    Sure! It’s just like when Magneto kidnapped Rogue in order to use her mutant power to broadcast his mutagenic energy across the world, turning normal people into mutants.

    Listen up, Scott Lively! Keep watching the Washington Monument. That’s where the SSMM (same-sex marriage mutator) is likely to be hidden!

  • anubisprime

    Seems the nearer the Supreme court ruling, the more that the wing nuts spin!

    Desperation and political enmity colliding and forcing the inevitable implosion in a perfect storm of angst and false righteousness.

    One might be persuaded that the deed is done and they see the Armageddon to their open bigotry,

    They is sad little hippity hoppity bunnies…and that is for sure!

  • scienceavenger

    including natural marriage and family

    Make up your mind. Our natural families resembled those of our nearest cousins, the apes: polyamorous and fleeting. Lifelong monogamy is about as unnatural as it gets.

  • Nice Ogress

    Making a whip of cords like He did with His own hands, and letting these arrogant puppet-masters know we mean to use it (metaphorically speaking)…

    This might be my favorite bit. “We’ve got to KILL EVERYONE! Err… Not that i’m inciting violence, of course! I meant with the WHIPS AND CHAINS of reason! The DEADLY BULLETS of logic! We’ll STAB THEM TO DEATH with our, uh, RAZOR-SHARP rhetorical arguments! And by we, of course, I mean you. I’ll be hiding under the bed so I don’t get in trouble…”

  • doublereed

    Uhh… is this incitement of violence?

  • Jared James

    How is it possible for this buffoon to maintain the internal narrative that he’s the good guy? The Bastille wasn’t extending more and more liberty to the people; that’s what they had the torches and pitchforks to correct.

  • claytoncar

    A mob like the NOM march from last year? I’ve seen more people at a Baha Men concert.

  • sigurd jorsalfar

    It is no different than Monsanto destroying natural foods or seeds by mutating their DNA, or Big Pharma destroying bodies by flooding the health industry with artificial, often poisonous “remedies.”

    The implication is that he advocates mob violence over these things too. And yet, I can’t help but have my doubts that he’s ever talked about violence regarding these things before.

  • teawithbertrand

    He doesn’t have much of a mob left?

    Over 19,000 people voted for him to be the governor of Massachusetts last year. That’s more people then live in my town. And in Massachusetts, that bastion of liberalism and forward thinking.

  • whheydt

    Re: teawithbertrand @ #34…

    Are you sure they voted *for* him and didn’t vote *against* other choices on the ballot? And then there is the probability that some of those votes were just simple mistakes. That’s 19K out of how many? Several million?

  • sugarfrosted

    Liberals and Conservatives marching together; mass hysteria.

  • whheydt

    If only real world mobs were like those in Freefall, where you expect to be treated to ice cream at the end of the mob action. (For those unfamiliar with it, Freefall is a very good web comic that is currently dealing with the issue of whether or not AIs should be considered people.)

  • https://plus.google.com/102695881434949084467 A Theist

    Hitler was gay.

    Read “The Hidden Hitler”.

  • Michael Heath

    A Theist writes:

    Hitler was gay.

    Read “The Hidden Hitler”.

    I suggest learning how to present a credible citation.

    Once you’ve presented a sufficiently framed set of credible factual assertions, I then suggest presenting a conclusion based on those premises.

    What you do in your comment post above merely reveals your own ignorance; that’d be how to present a citation. Your post also argues for either demonstrable idiocy, that’d be failing to argue a conclusion, or perhaps disingenuous cowardice. If the latter that’d be hoping others will be influenced by your post in spite of your failure to make an overt argument.