E. W. Jackson is ‘Willing to Die’ to Fight Gay Marriage

When I saw that there was going to be an event at the National Press Club with a bunch of Christian right leaders about gay marriage, I knew there would be some awesome rhetoric going on and told Jamila Bey about it. I don’t know if she went to it, but if not she missed them promising to die if that’s what it takes to stop gay people from getting married.

Bishop E.W. Jackson waxed eloquent about all the Christian martyrs throughout history and said this:

I don’t know what’s going to happen to us for the stand that we’re taking, but I think I can say for every one of us, we will give our lives standing for the truth.

That’s so brave of you to declare your willingness to die in a battle that doesn’t actually exist. It’s so much easier to welcome martyrdom when there’s no actual risk of having to follow through on it. You want to know what’s going to happen to you, bishop? Let me clue you in: Nothing. You’ll keep screaming about the tyranny that exists only in your mind, gay people are going to go ahead and get married and as public opinion continues to shift in favor of equality, you’re going to look more and more like the racists who opposed civil rights for blacks half a century ago. And at some point, you’ll be so marginalized that you’ll be little more than a punchline.

You see, we’ve seen this movie before, several times. We know how it ends. You lose, as the bigots always do eventually. And then you get laughed at.

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  • wreck

    “You lose, as the bigots always do eventually. And then you get laughed at. ”

    Which is exactly like being martyred!

  • colnago80

    This putz is a graduate of Harvard Law School (as are Tom Cotton and Ted Cruz). That says something about that not so august institution.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    Wow! That IS brave!

    …almost as brave as MY stand in defense of Tyrion Lannister on trial for murder!

  • Larry

    He’s gonna look kind of funny standing there on the pyre, imploring someone, anyone, to light the fire of martyrdom.

  • Mr Ed

    Translation – I shall hold my breath and stomp my feet if I don’t get my way

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    Let him.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Someone may, in fact, die for Jackson’s Cause. However, it won’t be Jackson because he’s needed too much in the rear echelons directing the fight [1]. Instead, he’s most valuable inspiring other to go out and destroy, maim, and murder for God [2]. Whether they die or not is another question: the States most fond of the death penalty are also the ones where the Soldiers of the Lord are going to receive the most sympathetic hearing.

    [1] I believe that the troops in Vietnam had an acronym for that.

    [2] Who is always on Our Side.

  • John Pieret

    E. W. Jackson … bucking to be the next Bull Connor!

  • daved

    I am so inspired that I am now willing to give E. W. Jackson’s life to block same-sex marriage!

  • raven

    E. W. Jackson is ‘Willing to Die’ to Fight Gay Marriage

    It’s the fundie rule!!! They always lie about everything.

    I don’t believe he is willing to die about anything.

    He is willing though to cash the checks his clueless followers send him and buy lots of expensive toys.

    Hard to believe this guy was almost elected Lt. governor of Virginia.

  • John Pieret

    Hard to believe this guy was almost elected Lt. governor of Virginia.

    Sadly, not.

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    [1] I believe that the troops in Vietnam had an acronym for that.

    Rear Echelon Mother Fucker (REMF)

    The last army where the officers led from the front was Napoleon Bonaparte’s. And the casualties among his officers were outlandish. The transition from smoothbore muskets to rifles put an end to leading from the front and ever since, the militaries of the world have been a haven for REMFs.

  • colnago80

    Re Marcus Ranum @ #12

    Well, Confederate General Thomas Jonathan Jackson led from the front at Chancellorsville. How did that work out?

  • JustaTech

    Colnago80 @13: You mean Stonewall Jackson, who was shot by his own sentries coming back from the battlefield?

    (The only better example I have is King Gustav Adolph (II) of Sweden, but that was before Napoleon.)

  • dingojack

    SLC – as he did at Bull Run. Your point being?



    Incidentally, while Napoleon was having a miserable time in a inn some distance behind the battle, the Duke of Wellington was directing the action from just behind the frontlines.

    ‘It was a damned near thing, it would not have done had I not been there.’

  • dingojack

    Some other examples I found:

    General Anthony McAuliffe who was the acting division commander of the 101st Airborne Division during the Battle of the Bulge became surrounded with the division and had to suffer the same appalling conditions that his men did. When the Germans asked him to surrender he declined. If he had surrendered he would have gone into captivity along with his men.

    Jonathan Wainwright was the temporary general who was captured by the Japanese after surrendering Corregidor. Douglas MacArthur wanted to stay in the Philippines and suffer the same fate as his men but was ORDERED to retreat to Australia by President Roosevelt.

    Field Marshal Erwin Rommel was famous for leading from the front (which apparently annoyed his staff). He conducted many night time raids during the war in North Africa riding in his own tank.

    Field Marshal Friedrich Paulus was the highest ranked German to surrender during WW2 and the only German Field Marshal too surrender. He along with another 30 German Generals were surrounded during the Battle of Stalingrad and had to endure the same conditions as his men and eventually surrendered with them.


  • colnago80

    Re JustaTech @ #14

    His given name was Thomas Jonathan Jackson. He given the sobriquet Stonewall after his stand at First Manassas where another general, Barnard Bee, pointed to Jackson and his men who had taken a position on a nearby hill and exclaimed, “there stands Jackson like a stone wall, rally behind the Virginians”. Incidentally, Bee was later mortally wounded in the battle.

    Re dingojack @ #16

    In addition to Barnard Bee mentioned above, Union General James Birdseye McPherson was also killed during Sherman’s advance on Atlanta. Confederate General J. E. B. Stuart was killed at the Battle of Yellow Tavern. A. P. Hill was killed during the Confederate retreat after Union forces captured Richmond.

  • colnago80

    Re dingojack @ #15

    Actually, Napoleon was suffering from a severe case of prostatitis and was unable to mount of horse. This had a significant effect on the battle as, after the fall of Hougoumont, Wellington’s line atop Mont St. Jean was in considerable disarray and quite possibly would have been dispersed by a determined infantry advance. Marshall Ney went to Napoleon and suggested that the time was right to send in the Imperial Guard’s infantry regiments. However, Napoleon had been informed that there were Prussian forces in the woods on his right, and being unable to mount a horse and go and investigate himself, he relied on the commander of the troops on his right who thought that there were two Prussian corps present (actually, only one had reached the battlefield, Bulow’s I believe). Based on this erroneous information, Napoleon delayed sending in the Imperial Guard for 2 hours when his forces on the right had beaten back the Prussian force present, proving that only one corps was present. That was a fatal error as it gave Wellington the time to stabilize his lines and the Guard’s advance was halted, with the cry in the French army, “la Guarde recule“. As the Guard fell back, Wellington ordered his forces to fix bayonets and advance against the retreating Guard which threw the latter into some confusion. At that moment, Blucher arrived with the 2nd Prussian corps, Thielmann’s I believe, and more importantly, with the Prussian cavalry. Blucher taking in the situation, ordered his cavalry to join the pursuit of the retreating French, turning a disordered retreat into a rout, sauve qui peut. Blucher joined Wellington at the crest of Mont St. Jean where the latter exclaimed, “that was the nearest run thing you ever saw in your life”.

    Two days later, Napoleon surrendered to a British force to avoid capture by the Prussians who would undoubtedly have strung him up forthwith.

  • eric

    @13 – Oh FFS, you’re now also using obscure names for confederate generals?

  • moarscienceplz

    I don’t believe he’s really ready to die for this. Let him prove himself first. Then I’ll take him seriously.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    @13 – Oh FFS, you’re now also using obscure names for confederate generals?

    Perhaps there’s a rumor that general’s grandmother was raped by a Jew? That would, of course, change EVERYTHING we know about him — at least in colnago’s race-obsessed excuse for a mind…

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    C’mon folks, it was a simple typo. He said “lie” not “die.” He’s willing to lie to block gay marriage. But we knew that all along.

  • felidae

    Oh, Bishop Jackson,I think self immolation would be a fine way for you to protest gay marriage.

  • sigurd jorsalfar

    In what sense is he willing to die? Willing to be shot dead by police after he opens fire on a gay wedding? That’s the only image that his rhetoric brings to mind.

  • StevoR

    .. at some point, you’ll (EW Jackson) be so marginalized that you’ll be little more than a punchline.

    Aren’t we pretty much already at or past that point? If not now then in a few more years? For most folks anyhow?

  • John Pieret


    There is an Oklahoma lawmaker who actually said that he’d be willing to immolate himself over abortion rights … but …

    You knew there was going to be a “but,” didn’t you? …

    “If I were not a Christian, and didn’t have a prohibition against suicide, I’d walk across the street and douse myself in gasoline and set myself on fire,” Calvey said during the debate. “To protest the evil that is going on over there, killing, giving the death penalty, to the will of the people and the will of this body and protecting the least among us.”


    Thank dog for loopholes!

  • Pierce R. Butler

    sigurd jorsalfar @ # 24: … shot dead by police after he opens fire on a gay wedding? That’s the only image that his rhetoric brings to mind.

    Well, I envisioned him, along with a gaggle of frothing fundies, somewhere out in the woods with no cops around at all, charging into a well-liquored ceremony for the nuptials of two leaders of Dykes on Bikes (hallowed be their Harleys!).