Scarborough: The Majority is Often Wrong

A gaggle of bigots gathered at the National Press Club to cast themselves as martyrs, declaring for all the world to see that they will never accept a Supreme Court ruling allowing gay people to get married (good for you, guys — here’s a cookie for you). And Rick Scarborough made this amusingly oblivious statement:

During his remarks, Scarborough declared that marriage equality is an attack on God and dismissed the idea that the majority of Americans support gay marriage by asserting that a majority of Americans once also supported segregation.

“I am not surprised that some recent polls have shown that a majority of Americans now say they approve of same-sex marriage,” he said. “We have heard a steady drum beat for the last decade of a one-sided national discussion on the subject. But there was also a time when the majority of Americans in this country approved of separate restrooms and separate classrooms for black American citizens. The majority often gets it wrong.”

But wait Rick, aren’t you the ones who constantly demand that the Supreme Court respect the “will of the people” — i.e., the majority? In fact, aren’t you the ones who constantly claim that if they fail to respect the will of the majority, that’s “tyranny” and the end of democracy itself? I guess that only counts when you’re in the majority. When public opinion changes, so does the tune you’re humming. How surprising!

And your comparison is exactly backwards, of course. It was the majority in favor of such discrimination and the courts ruled against them, just like they’re now ruling against your majority that wants to discriminate. And just like public opinion changed on segregation, it’s now rapidly changing on anti-gay discrimination. Up is not down, black is not white, and your preferred form of oppression is not different from previous forms.

“Marriage can no more include same-sex couples than a rock can fall up,” Scarborough continued. “The court can no more redefine marriage than it can redefine gravity … Today I declare before Heaven, I will no deny God, nor His word to curry any man’s favor. With great caution should anyone indulge the notion that one can change what God has said … To deny the created order is to attack God’s very nature.”

Good for you. You are entirely free to go on believing that as long as you live, you just won’t be allowed to force others to live by it anymore. Sorry, not sorry.

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  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    “Marriage can no more include same-sex couples than a rock can fall up,” Scarborough continued. “The court can no more redefine marriage than it can redefine gravity …

    Sure it can. It can literally redefine words. “Down” now means toward the sky and “up” means toward the center of the planet. Wow, a rock just fell “up”.

  • Chiroptera

    The majority often gets it wrong.

    That is correct. And, surprisingly enough, that is why we have a Constitution and an institution somewhat separated from the political process to make rulings based on it.

    Man, these people don’t even realize when they’ve made an own-goal!

  • Scientismist

    During his remarks, Scarborough declared that marriage equality is an attack on God

    To deny the created order is to attack God’s very nature.

    The very worst characteristic of religious belief is its ability to provide an excuse for adherents to deny any responsibility for their own actions, their own hatreds, their own morality. “The majority often gets it wrong,” but the god they choose to invent and follow can never be wrong.

  • scienceavenger

    “The court can no more redefine marriage than it can redefine gravity …”

    Category fail! While courts can certainly redefine any word they like (see #1 above), the reality of gravity exists, regardless of what utterance we choose to assign to it, or even if we fail to acknowledge it at all. The same cannot be said for marriage, which is entirely a human construct, and an optional one at that. We could have a culture without marriage, We could not have one without gravity.

  • John Pieret

    This whole ‘we have no choice but to disobey a Supreme Court decision in favor of gay marriage’ meme will result in idiot state legislator throwing up any and all moronic barriers to LGBT person’s rights they can think of. In Texas and elsewhere they may pass legislation to deny compensation and pensions to county clerks, obeying the law of the land, who issue marriage licenses to gays. There will be much ‘standing in the wedding chapel doors’ (literally and figuratively) but, in the end it will all be for naught. Then they will, after much wailing and gnashing of teeth, get on with the business of rewriting of history to reflect how they bravely were in the forefront of protecting the rights of gay people, just as they did with blacks and segregation.

  • dugglebogey

    Mark my words, in 30 years or less, Christians will be saying that marriage equality was their idea.

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    To deny the created order is to attack God’s very nature.

    We’re talking about a deity here. If He isn’t able to weather such an attack, He isn’t much of a god, is He? He’s got lots of tools to prevent this, but seems to fail at every juncture. The fundy’s god is supposed to be all things: He seems to have mastered being both omnipotent and impotent at the same time.

  • Alverant

    The definition of marriage changed when a man could no longer pay a woman’s father 30 sheckles for a wife.

  • http://onhandcomments.blogspot.com/ left0ver1under

    Scarborough: The Majority is Often Wrong

    I was expecting Joe Scarborough. He’s equally capable of such stupidity.

    Ain’t it funny: when the “moral majority” was on the rise, they claimed to be always right. But now that the majority become ethical and respectful of others, they’re wrong. And Scarborough believes “majority rules” while christians still account for the largest worldwide population. But he would be the first to whine “respect the minority!” if muslims became the largest.

    Chumps like Scarborough are religious leaders, but not in the definition of the word they think.

    * a featured article of trade offered at a low price to attract customers (i.e. duping customers)

    * leading article, opinion piece in a newspaper (i.e. not fact based)

  • jameshanley

    I think you mean “a bargle of bigots.”

  • abb3w

    The courts can redefine “marriage” to include gay marriage as easily as it can redefine “vegetables” to include tomatoes; see Nix v Hedden.

  • theguy

    “Marriage can no more include same-sex couples than a rock can fall up,”

    Or that a trinitarian god can be monotheistic. Or a god who damns people to suffer forever can be merciful. You see, I can play this game too!

    There is of course a difference between an institution like marriage and a physical law like gravity.

  • kantalope

    I thought the whole point of an omnipotent god was that rocks could fall up if that’s what was required.

  • Kermit Sansoo

    Scarborough looks old enough – he (or his father) was one of those very people who were demonstrating against desegregating marriage. But he may not actually remember it that way. I consider it a moral failing that these people so easily and freely rewrite their memories. Like the Outer Party in 1984, but self regulating.

    .

    Their current internal map of the world is chaotic and incoherent*, but it’s not a problem if their memories are, also.

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    * They don’t see their gestalt as incoherent, of course. Bad things happen when Abusive Sky Daddy is mad; good things happen when he’s happy. How much more complicated can it be?

  • John Pieret

    The majority often gets it wrong

    We noticed … when those 37 states passed laws and/or constitutional amendments outlawing same-sex marriage.

  • Lofty

    A rock can certainly fall up if a god wills it so. Trivially easy for an omnipotent bean.

  • felidae

    “During his remarks, Scarborough declared that marriage equality is an attack on God”

    Gee, Ricky, is your god such a wuss that he needs a POS like you to fight his battles for him?

  • Lady Mondegreen

    The majority often gets it wrong.

    Yes. Yes it does, Rick. That’s why we sometimes turn to the Supreme Court to settle issues involving minority righ–

    Oh. You’re not happy about that either? The majority disagree with you AND the Supremes are likely to decide against you?

    http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/small-violin.gif