Wingnut on Wingnut Crime: Coach Dave Against Other Leaders

It’s always fun watching Christian right leaders disagree with and attack one another, but “Coach” Dave Daubenmire is really going after the long list of wingnut leaders who say they’re willing to go to prison or even to jail if the Supreme Court rules for same-sex marriage. He scoffs at this and calls them dishonest cowards:

In 2011, Focus on the Family (FOTF) took in nearly $95 million. They have assets of over $54 million. The American Family Association took in another $20 million, while having property valued at $27 million. Family Research Council (FRC) swallowed up nearly $14 million, and has holdings worth another $4.2 million. There are literally dozens of organizations that are raking in donations ‘fighting’ evil. To put it succinctly, the “pro-family” movement is rolling in dough. Fighting on their “team” can be very lucrative…

So now, they say it is time to disobey. WE WILL NOT OBEY! I hear them bombasting in regard to their anticipated defeat in the Supreme Court’s homo-marriage decision. Really? They are going to go to jail? James Dobson, Tony Perkins, Matt Staver, Franklin Graham, Jerry Johnson, Rick Santorum, Keith Fornier, Rick Scarborough—they’re willing to go to jail? REALLY?

So, if I understand these Christian leaders correctly, there IS a time to disobey government. The question then becomes not IF, but WHEN.

Jesus went to jail. Peter went to jail. Paul practically lived in jail. Dr. King went to jail. Today’s Christian leaders go to fundraisers.

Why aren’t these Christian ‘leaders’ ALREADY in jail? Isn’t the slaughter of 60 million babies worthy of a month or two in the slammer? Shouldn’t the indoctrination of God’s children in the sin of sodomy in America’s “public” schools be enough to warrant a trip in the paddy wagon? You would think that opposition to an out of control, tyrannical government would be enough to have them already wearing orange jump suits. WE WILL NOT OBEY! Yeah, right…

While these “pro-family” leaders have been living in luxury and attending meetings with the ‘kings’ in Washington, many of my friends are miles ahead of these fellows. I have friends who have been arrested hundreds of times and have spent months in jail in defense of their unborn brothers and sisters. Jail is nothing new to those who truly defy anti-god edicts. Funny, it was some of the same folks who now claim that they ‘WILL NOT OBEY’ who actually criticized my friends for defying a government that says that pre-born baby-murder is legal…

The time to stand up is NOW!! The time to go to jail is NOW!! The time for godly obedience is NOW!!

He’s right, of course. Those people just love to declare their willingness to be persecuted and martyred, but that’s an easy thing to do when there’s no actual threat of those things. Striking a pose is far easier than actually carrying it out. Then again, one might ask why Daubenmire isn’t in jail given his statements here. I guess he’s a coward too, borrowing the reflected glory from his unnamed friends.

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  • roggg

    The whole civil disobedience angle on marriage equality is all bluster anyway, and anyone with a brain should be able to see right through it. There’s nothing to obey or disobey. Staver and Dobson dont have a role to play in it. Some people will get married. Either by state employees, or by clergy who are supportive of equality rights. How could you possibly “disobey” as an uninvolved third party?

  • colnago80

    Re roggg @ #1

    That’s easy, you have to be prepared to stand in the courthouse door to prevent same sex couples from obtaining marriage licenses.

  • dingojack

    Jesus went to jail.”

    Really? Which gospel does that come from, ‘Coach’?

    It wouldn’t be The Gospel According to Dave Dob-of-shit’s Anal Polyps, by any chance?

    @@ Dingo

  • John Pieret

    What I think we have here is Coach Dave showing his jealousy of the financial success of those people. His Pass the Salt Ministries 2013 Form 990 has him claiming $93,000+ in donations and $96,000+ in expenses (Pass the Salt, indeed!) and assets of a little over $24,000.

  • Modusoperandi

    I’m a martyr for Our Christian Cause. I can’t count the number of times I’ve been arrested for standing in the restaurant door, preventing gay couples from getting in.

    Man shalt not bruncheth with a man, as he bruncheth with a woman!

  • RickR

    America’s “public” schools

    Huh? Why the scare quotes around ‘public’ here? I mean, I know they’d rather call them ‘government schools’ (because Scary!) but it seems that scare quotes here would only make sense if there was something NOT public about them. Like how they put scare quotes around homosexual “marriage”.

    Aaaaaand that’s all the brain space I have for wingnutz today.

  • dingojack

    RickR – Maybe Coach went to school in England*



    * kinda explains his overweening interest in homosexuality…

  • Sastra

    He starts out making sense by pointing to the hypocrisy of wealthy, comfortable preachers vowing they’ll go to jail rather than accept gay marriage — but then he goes and ruins it by explaining that the solution for this isn’t to tone it down and get a grip on reality, it’s to actually become the extremist nutcase you’re only claiming to be.

  • Randomfactor

    There’s nothing to obey or disobey

    Yeah, there is. They’re calling on wingnutty court clerks to refuse to issue licenses. And that should be a firing offense.

    The County Clerk where I live gave up performing marriages in-office (not issuing licenses) rather than have to officiate at same-sex marriages.

    The solution is obvious, and it doesn’t involve making anyone a martyr. If you have a religious objection to issuing marriage licenses to gay couples, you can’t issue them to straights either. And YOU get to inform the happy hetero couple that they have to go to the back of a different line.

  •!/TabbyLavalamp Tabby Lavalamp

    RickR @6

    I love when they use “government” as a scare word. We get American television channels up here and I remember during a recent election there was a vote to build a new bridge to Canada in addition to the Ambassador Bridge. The commercials from those against it kept going on about a “government bridge” which shocked me because aren’t almost all sizable bridges “government” bridges?

    That was when I was shocked to learn that the Ambassador Bridge is privately owned. Such a thing would never have occurred to me. And of course the owner of the bridge was funding the commercials against the new one being built.

  • bushrat

    They’re not dishonest cowards, they’re truth adverse, courage deficient holy warriors.

  • grumpyoldfart

    I wonder how many interest free loans are made against the accounts of those Christian organizations. And then I wonder how many of those loans are forgiven before repayments are due.

  • Artor

    He’s right, of course.

    Of course? Coach Dave being right about anything is so rare an occasion as to be possibly a sign of the End Times.

  • llewelly

    This is precisely the kind of crap that has a real chance of contributing to a violent attack on an abortion clinic or provider.

  • Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden

    “Coach” Dave Daubenmire is really going after the long list of wingnut leaders who say they’re willing to go to prison or even to jail

    Ed, I’m having a hard time determining if this phrase of yours reveals error, sarcasm, or something completely different…