Ryan: We Have a Plan, but We Won’t Tell You What It Is

The Republicans are in a dilemma. They will cheer wildly if the Supreme Court rules in the next couple weeks that the subsidies for the federal health care exchange is illegal, meaning millions will lose their health insurance, but then they’ll have to figure out how to fix that — if they want to. Paul Ryan told Fox News that they have a plan to fix it, but refused to say what that plan might be.

Appearing with Wallace on Fox News Sunday, the former vice presidential nominee repeatedly refused to explain the details of the mysterious Republican replacement for Obamacare, even after the news host pointed out the the Republicans have had five years since the ACA was signed into law to provide an alternative.

“For all the complaints, we’re five years into Obamacare and Republicans have still not come up with a coherent plan that will ensure that all of those millions of uninsured people will get coverage,” Wallace said, only to have Ryan brush him off, saying the GOP wants to “see the details” of the upcoming Supreme Court ruling before unveiling their plan to the public.

Multiple times Ryan parried Wallace’s questions, saying, “We will have an answer, we will have a solution,” skipping every opportunity to provide even the simplest details of the Republican plan.

I suspect his reticence to explain the plan is a result of the fact that there is no plan. I also suspect that a lot of Republicans are secretly hoping that the Supreme Court upholds those subsidies so the problem of having millions of Americans stripped of their health insurance isn’t dropped in their lap.

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  • John Pieret

    I suspect his reticence to explain the plan is a result of the fact that there is no plan.

    Unfortunately, I suspect the plan is to allow all those “takers” to die of preventable diseases.

  • Larry

    It’s buried beneath Nixon’s plan to end the Vietnam war.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    “Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up Obama’s long form birth certificate, or given you clairvoyance enough to come up with a coherent plan that will ensure that all of those millions of uninsured people will get coverage,” Wallace said, only to have Ryan cut him off with slight wave of his hand.

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    “I have a cunning plan…” Ryan does look a little like Blackadder, so it’s appropriate.

    It amazes me that these so-called libertarians can still do lots of things against their own self-interest. Winning this case at SCOTUS will be bad for them. I have seen some weak attempts at blaming the whole thing on Obama, but a strategist with more than 3 working brain cells could point the blame where it belongs. Not that the Democrats have any such people.

  • Akira MacKenzie

    They don’t want to fix it. In their clueless, selfish estimation, the inability of some to afford health services is not a problem at all: “If you can’t get medical care, TOUGH. You should have thought about that before you became poor and irresponsible.”

    It’s not just about money. It’s also an ideology that honestly believes that placing the individual whims of the “successful” above the commonweal is somehow morally superior to the expectation to help everyone.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Thanks, Obama!

  • D. C. Sessions

    Ummm — after years of Ryan flimflam, this is a surprise?

  • blf

    The real reason They won’t say what Their plan is, is because they have lots of them. So many They cannot count ’em, unless everyone takes off their shoes and socks. And, and, and, the best part, the bestest part, is every plan is different!

    A few have leaked. One which literally leaks is Homeopathy for All to Help the Ailing (the HAHA plan), which has been diluted so much all that is left is just the money.

  • busterggi

    They have a plan – they will be greeted as liberators and have flowers strewn in front of them.

    Or was that Iraq?

  • moarscienceplz

    The Republicans have always had a healthcare plan, and it is way simpler than that nasty ol’ Obamacare:

    Principle #1 – Don’t get sick.

    Principle #2 – If you do get sick, die quickly.

  • blf

    moarscienceplz@10, No, #2  is “Don’t die until you have no money left to pay, then die quickly.”

  • raven

    Paul Ryan told Fox News that they have a plan to fix it, but refused to say what that plan might be.

    Oh Cthulhu, this again.

    The plan is; if you get sick, die in the street!!! And do it quietly.

    Paul Ryan did this before. I tried to analyze the Romney/Ryan tax/budget plans. There weren’t any.

    They were going to cut taxes, close loopholes, and balance the budget. Which is completely impossible.

  • Randomfactor

    It’s actually a three-step plan.

    1. Authorize the subsidies through 2016.

    2. Run as the saviors of Ryancare.

    3. After the election, kill it in such a way that tax dollars are still funneled to insurance companies, but without providing any real benefits to consumers.

  • blf

    Follow the money! Follow the money!! And “plan” or whatever won’t go anywhere unless loadsamoney winds up in the “correct” pockets.

  • samgardner

    You guys aren’t listening. Paul isn’t saying they “have” a plan, just that they “will have” one.

    In short, he’s lying.

  • weaver

    Oh, sure, he has a plan.

    Just like in all those crappy budgets of his, where he “has a plan” to fill the massive shortfalls after cutting taxes and giving money to the wealthy but still increasing defense spending – he has a plan, he just won’t tell anyone because the plan mostly involves “We hope our magic man god will make up something really good just in time.”

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    It’s actually the same plan as his budget plan! It’s a meta-plan: they plan to plan a plan. That has a high level of planning efficiency, and is better than Cheney-style planning in which you plan to have Halliburton plan you a plan.

  • scienceavenger

    @7 Exactly! This is the same Paul Ryan that, after being nominated for VP on the basis of being the details man, a wonk’s wonk, refused to answer any questions about anything, tossing out jargon like “baselines”, or in some cases claiming it’s too complicated to explain. The man’s a phony, same as his former running mate.

  • Michael Heath

    Paul Ryan fell for the libertarian Kool-Aid® when he was an undergrad and had an ideologue for an economics prof.

    He’s got himself some talking points; but struggles with pesky things like math, facts, and the economic lessons of history.

    You can be intelligent; but if you step down the rabbit hole, that can be a steep drop. Fundies and libertarians seem especially prone to this defect. And I point this out as someone raised fundie (never took) and tempted by libertarianism until I advanced beyond sophomoric thinking (where Brayton’s blog at ScienceBlogs.com and his audience back then helped immensely).

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Michael Heath “(where Brayton’s blog at ScienceBlogs.com and his audience back then helped immensely).”

    Agreed. There was a better class of ruffian there.

  • StevoR

    Jim Wright of the Stonekettle Station blog has an excellent post up on this issue too :

    http://www.stonekettle.com/2015/06/death-spiral.html

    @5. Akira MacKenzie :

    They don’t want to fix it. In their clueless, selfish estimation, the inability of some to afford health services is not a problem at all: “If you can’t get medical care, TOUGH. You should have thought about that before you became – or were born poor and irresponsible.

    Fixed it for you? (The “irresponsible” necessarily* goes with the territory because responsible people will make sure they were born into wealth ,privilede and power like to Gina Rhinehart / The Koch Bros / Murdoch family, etc .. )

    * For a certain value of “necessarily” there. This idea, of course, is a lie.

  • Anri

    He has a plan.

    Granted, it involves walking away shrugging while saying “Hell, I got mine, what me worry?”

    But, let’s face it, that’s a plan.

  • llewelly

    StevoR:

    Jim Wright of the Stonekettle Station blog has an excellent post up on this issue too :

    Some problems with Jim Wright’s thinking:

    (0) All but one or two of the 34 states in question are so Republican dominated that losing even 5 or 10 points at the polls has zero chance of flipping the state. Wright is making one of the most beloved errors in American political punditry: believe the popular vote is more important than the electoral college.

    (1) Although poor people in red states do skew Republican when they vote, most don’t vote in the first place, for anyone – so his speculations about how many votes this issue will affect can be divided by two at least.

    (2) Although poor people in red states do skew Republican when they vote, a substantial portion do vote Democrat consistently, and will vote Democrat regardless of the outcome, so his speculations can again be reduced by about another 40% or so.

    (3) So it is up to the Democrats, to pick the one or two of the 34 states that could be flipped, and organize a strong get-out-the-vote campaign. If Hillary wins the primaries, that will be very hard to do, because Hillary only differs substantially from Republicans on a few issues like abortion and gay rights. Those issues are important, and they don’t favor Republicans in purple states, but they are not enough to overcome Hillary’s very strong and largely deserved reputation. Ironically, Jim Wright has better chances of being right here if he is wrong about who is going to win the Democratic primaries, because Sanders is not vulnerable to the “don’t vote because both parties are the same” lie, while Hillary is more vulnerable to it than any Democrat known to the majority of the public.

    (4) Wright appears to believe that Priebus is right when Priebus assumes that losing the presidential election means the Republicans are “doomed as national party” . This is wrong, because congress is part of the national government, and in every domanin except foriegn policy, it is substantially more powerful than the whitehouse. Jim Wright rants all the time about the many many times Republicans have used congress to stall the President’s agendas, but when Rince Priebus, captain of the Republican party’s many negative skill prognosticators says what Wright wants to hear, Wright believes it despite having extensively discussed the evidence against it. Republicans will lose seats, but they are unlikely to lose enough to lose their majority in the house – and being a few seats behind in Senate, if that happens, will not have much effect on their ability to deploy yet another iteration of “stall every presidential agenda in congress” .

    (5) Whatever gains Democrats make in congress are not likely to last more than two years.

    The national influence of the Republicans does seem to be on a slow irregular decline – but 8 years of Hillary in the whitehouse will not be enough to finish them off.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    “Ryan: We Have a Plan, but We Won’t Tell You What It Is.”

    So did McCain: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/monday-s-hilarity-starts-early

    I especially liked this part:

    “The McCain administration would reserve all savings from victory in the Iraq and Afghanistan operations in the fight against Islamic extremists for reducing the deficit. Since all their costs were financed with deficit spending, all their savings must go to deficit reduction.”.

  • lorn

    I have a cunning plan’ … good one.

    I think this is more like that scene in Terminator-2 where Arnold Schwarzenegger reaches out to a prone, terrorized, and very vulnerable Linda Hamilton and declares “Come with me if you want to live”.

    The GOP operating procedure is to instill a deep sense of fear, dread and vulnerability into the American people. To try to focus that inchoate feeling onto and discredit government in general and liberals in particular with constant baseless criticism and concerted efforts to make sure nothing works. And then, when the country has been led down this path of dysfunction and despair, reach out their hand and declare: “Come with me if you want to live”.

  • StevoR

    @23.llewelly :

    1) Maybe. Dunno. You could be right.

    2) Okay. Ibid.

    3) Only one or two seats out of 34! I do believe Hillary can do that and much more pretty easily! Guess we’ll see in Nov 2016.

    4) Ibid. I kinda see what you are saying here I think but, well, dunno. POTUIsUS tnd stostay infor two terms hichis along time in politics. Repubs see to be on the decline. I think and hope. I’ll grant Jim Wright some poetic license here and might be wishful thinking or realistic, I don’t know. I’m optimistic or wish to be here so anyhow.

    5) They ain’t? Why? I won’t claim to predict the future certainly can’t guarantee anything but it does seem to have a few trend s which if extrapolated don’t look that good for the Repubs especially the Tea Party fanatics. Also maybe after eight years of Hillary things will be very different politically and maybe the Democratic party control of the POTUS~ship will continue post Hillary too. Hell, maybe post Hillary it’ll be a Greens or other Left-wing party taking over, can’t be sure but not beyond the bounds of possibility if not maybe plausibility eh?

    Here’s hoping!

    Thanks for your insights here and you could be right (or not) but I’m still a JW fan on this.

  • StevoR

    Oh for pitys sake! Doggurned flippin typos. make that :

    POTUS’es tend to stay in for two terms which is a very long time in politics. (Hell a mere week is ‘sposed to be that ain’t it?)

  • dingojack

    Stevo – you might find this interesting to read.

    Dingo

  • StevoR

    Short version : I don’t know if Jim Wright is right or not – but I sure fucken hope he is! Plus I like the way he writes & reasons here. Guess we’ll see in a year or decade or three. If we’re all still around.

    Hell, spose we’ll have a good marker in November next year when the USA’s election is over.

  • StevoR

    @28. Dingojack. Okay. Interesting. Thanks.