Trump Still Lying About Syria and Christians

A few weeks ago at a wingnut conference in Iowa, Donald Trump heard another speaker claim that the United States refuses to allow Christians from Syria to get refugee status in the United States. Since then, he’s repeated that claim over and over again, not giving a damn whether it’s true or not. From his recent speech in Las Vegas:

“If you’re from Syria and you’re a Christian, you cannot come into this country. And they’re the ones that are being persecuted. If you’re Islamic and you come in, hard to believe, you can come in so easily. In fact, it’s one of our main groups of people that are coming in. Not that we should discriminate against one or the other. But if you’re Christian, you cannot get into the country. You cannot get in. I thought that was unbelievable. We have to do something about it.”

And from an interview with CBN:

“Well it’s a very big message. First of all I’m protestant. I’m Presbyterian. I’m proud of it. I’m very proud of it. If you’re a Christian living in Syria, you can’t come into this country. And yet if you’re a Muslim living in Syria, who are not under attack, they can come in. But we have Christians being beheaded all over the world, by ISIS, in Syria and Iraq in particular, and those Christians can’t come into this country. So you say what you want, I mean this is really, something. And that’s a lack of respect, for us. If you’re a Muslim, you can come into the country very eas[ily]. If you’re from Europe and you’re a Muslim, you can come in. But if you’re from Europe and you’re a Christian, you can’t come in, meaning it’s almost impossible. So you tell me about religious liberty and freedom. The Christians are being treated horribly because we have nobody to represent the Christians. Believe me, if I run and I win, I will be the greatest representative of the Christians that they’ve had in a long time.”

All of this, you’ll not be surprised to hear, is total bullshit. First of all, Muslims are being persecuted in Syria. Like most ignorant Americans, Donald Trump does not understand that there are different kinds of Muslims. Syria is nearly 75% Sunni Muslim, but the nation is ruled by a Shiite dictator. The overwhelming majority of refugees from that country are Sunni. Christians make up only about 10% of the country. And guess what? They make up a smaller percentage of the refugees too, and a smaller percentage of those granted asylum or refugee status in this country.

But here’s the real punchline. You want more Christians emigrating to America, Scrooge McDick? How about those Mexicans and Central Americans you’ve raged against? They’re about 90% Christian.

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  • http://drx.typepad.com Dr X

    Right wing Christians who eat up Trump’s lies don’t really care about the plight of Christians outside America. Their concern for Middle East Christians is an inverted expression of their contempt for Muslims. It’s all about The Other, just like their contempt for Hispanics. They even lost their minds over children from central America seeking refuge from violence and dire poverty.

  • John Pieret

    Syria is nearly 75% Sunni Muslim, but the nation is ruled by a Shiite dictator. The overwhelming majority of refugees from that country are Sunni.

    Nor should we forget that Shiites are being persecuted by the Sunni ISIL in areas it controls.

    Maybe proud Presbyterian The Donald feels more kinship with eastern Christians than he does those dirty Roman Catholics.

  • tbp1

    What exactly is so admirable about merely being a Presbyterian that he is “very proud” of simply belonging to a specific denomination? I don’t suppose it’s something to be ashamed of, but still…

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    “How about those Mexicans and Central Americans you’ve raged against? They’re about 90% Christian.”

    Well, there is your problem. We only let in 100% Christians, i.e. the TRUE Christians.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    But if you’re Christian, you cannot get into the country. You cannot get in. I thought that was unbelievable. We have to do something about it.”

    I wonder why it is so unbelievable…

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    Why let truth get in the way of a good talking-point? If politicians start doing that, we’ll have very very quiet elections.

  • yoav

    But if you’re from Europe and you’re a Christian, you can’t come in, meaning it’s almost impossible.

    It’s getting really hard to keep track but are we talking about the original lie and a certain sack of pus growing from a dead hedgehog’s ass just can’t tell the difference between the middle east and Europe, or is he also claiming that Europeans Xtians are banned from immigrating to the US?

  • freehand

    Marcus Ranum says: Why let truth get in the way of a good talking-point? If politicians start doing that, we’ll have very very quiet elections.

    .

    Ah…

    [blissfully imagines for a moment.]

    .

    Of course, since the Supreme court said that Fox News had no obligation to tell the truth, there’s no chance of politicians telling the truth. Except Bullworth, and look what happened to him.

  • carpenterman

    I think Trump is a stalking horse. The other Republican candidates *want* him in this race, at least at this stage of the game, because he makes even guys like Jindall and Cruz look qualified and reasonable by comparison. The only way he can really hurt the Republicans (as Ed pointed out yesterday) is to run in the general, thus siphoning off votes that would mostly have gone to the Republican candidate.

  • Dunc

    How about those Mexicans and Central Americans you’ve raged against? They’re about 90% Christian.

    Yeah, but they’re mostly Catholic

  • Nick Gotts

    Christians make up only about 10% of the country. And guess what? They make up a smaller percentage of the refugees too

    Reportedly, most Syrian Christians support Assad, believing that the alternative is a Sunni Islamist regime.

  • colnago80

    Re Nick Gotts @ #11

    That’s correct and if and when Assad falls, they will get the shaft no matter who ends up on top in Syria.

  • John Hinkle

    First of all I’m protestant. I’m Presbyterian. I’m proud of it.

    And as proud protestant, he can wear a French Tickler.

  • Holms

    “If you’re from Syria and you’re a Christian, you cannot come into this country. And they’re the ones that are being persecuted. If you’re Islamic and you come in, hard to believe, you can come in so easily. In fact, it’s one of our main groups of people that are coming in. Not that we should discriminate against one or the other. But if you’re Christian, you cannot get into the country. You cannot get in. I thought that was unbelievable. We have to do something about it.”

    For once, he is actually completely correct: that story is definitely unbelievable.

  • helenaconstantine

    Assad is not a Shiite, he’s an Alawite.

  • yoav

    The Alawites are a subset of Shiite islam.

  • helenaconstantine

    No they aren’t. They incorporate a great deal of Neo-Platonism (differnt bits than the Sufis do, reincarnation for example), and have a lot of openly Christian elements int heir worship–they celebrate Christmas for instance, and the men take mass (women, they believe, don’t have souls and so have no need of it). They do venerate Ali, but they consider him one of the human manifestations of the trinity, not a Shiah idea.