Lane: Trump Can Bring ‘Moral, Principled Leadership’

David Lane, the Christian right kingmaker in American politics, is definitely warming up to the idea of Donald Trump as president. Despite no history whatsoever of agreeing with him on anything and nothing at all to indicate Trump even thinks about religion, he had this to say:

Donald Trump’s surge into the lead of the Republican presidential primary can be credited partly to two groups he has rarely engaged: social conservatives and evangelical Christians.

“Trump is tapping into deep-seated anger in America, a nation founded by Christians ‘for the glory of God and the advancement of the Christian faith,'” said David Lane, a prominent national evangelical political organizer. “He’s tapping into something at the grassroots, precinct level of America. America is starving for moral, principled leadership. I hope that Donald Trump brings that.”

David Lane, despite being a theocrat, really just wants to be close to power, and as Donald Trump gains in political power, Lane is there to kiss his ass with nonsense like that. Trump would not morality or principles if they showed up and shaved his horrible combover. And he is incredibly awkward talking about religion because the only god he knows is himself:

“If I do something wrong, I try to do something right,” he said. “I don’t bring God into that picture.”

Spoken like an ethical agnostic, right? But perhaps sensing his answer wasn’t adequate, he tried to recover:

“When I drink my little wine — which is about the only wine I drink — and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,” he said.

If the Christian right manages to embrace a guy who clearly doesn’t really believe in anything religious other than self-worship, who has always claimed to be pro-choice until running this year, and who trades in his wive for newer models every 15 years or so, that will be an immense farce.

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  • skinnercitycyclist

    Trump is astoundingly tone-deaf if he thinks he is even going to mollify, let alone attract, conservative Catholic voters with that “cracker” comment. What’s next, an appeal to Catholic voters from PZ Myers?

  • John Pieret

    skinnercitycyclist:

    Trump isn’t referring to Catholic Communion. Presbyterians (which The Donald claims to be) also practice a form of Communion but without the doctrine of “transubstantiation.” Presbyterians view the taking of bread and wine as a symbolic act rather than receiving the flesh and blood of Christ.

  • llewelly

    It is God’s Plan.

  • StevoR

    @ ^ llewelly : What is? What god?

    Trump becoming POTUS? Won’t happen. Won’t even be the R-nom for it. I mean Trump seriously?

    Trump bringing moral principled leadership (Laughter)

    Lane is serious about that? (Harder laughter.)

  • raven

    Trump also made a lot of his money with casinos. Gambling. Wholesome family fun where you can drink for free while you lose your mortgage payment.

    I’ve seen enough of David Lane. He’s just your average sociopathic conman. I doubt if he really much cares about xianity. Fundie xianity is hollowed out. It’s just hate, lies, and hypocrisy surrounding a void of nothing.

    He’s a lot more interested in power and money. Which makes sense. While his gods might exist, they probably don’t. Power and money do exist, are quite useful, and sought after.

  • StevoR

    “When I drink my little wine — which is about the only wine I drink — and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,”

    Trump asking for forgiveness? If only! I don’t think so!

    (The admission may hurt with the worst of the Tea Blaggards tho’ I suspect.)

    As for the cleansed bit, I suspect Trump may be having a laxative with that little wine and cracker, its the only(~ish) logical explanation!

  • Nemo

    “… two groups he has rarely engaged: social conservatives and evangelical Christians.”

    How is that two groups?

  • StevoR

    @ ^ Nemo : Because there are such things as progressive evangelical Christians eg. Fred Clark of the Slacktivist blog.

    See : http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/tag/left-behind/

    There are others as well. Maybe not many but enough.

    Just because the categories often overlap doesn’t mean they always do.

  • tfkreference

    “Trump is tapping into deep-seated anger in America,”

    I think he misspelled fear.

  • raven

    Trump is tapping into deep-seated anger in America,

    Much of which is directed at David Lane, Oogedy Boogedy xians, Trump, the Koches, the Bushes, the Iraq war, the banks and Wall Street, and so on.

    1. US xianity is losing 2 million members a year.

    2. Obama was elected President twice.

  • cptdoom

    “Moral leadership” from a man on his third wife – or second concubine, depending on how you interpret Christian theology – who has also defrauded investors time and again? I guess the word “moral” has way more flexibility than I thought.

  • raven

    Just because the categories often overlap doesn’t mean they always do.

    20% of “Evangelicals” voted for…Obama.

    I suspect this number might be going down. As the right wing extremists own fundie xianity, the only place for progressives to go is out of the religion. And they don’t just leave, sometimes they get forced out.

    PS Evangelical is not a good name. They chose that because fundie became an insult. Now Evangelical is an insult. Oogedy Boogedy is more accurate. It’s just the xian version of primitive superstition.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Nemo “How is that two groups?”

    /draws Venn Diagram.

    {pause}

    Huh.

     

    StevoR “@ ^ Nemo : Because there are such things as progressive evangelical Christians eg. Fred Clark of the Slacktivist blog.”

    So Trump’s big among progressive evangelical Christians?

     

    cptdoom ““Moral leadership” from a man on his third wife…”

    It’s right there in the name. You can’t spell “Republican” without “moral”.

  • colnago80

    Re raven @ #4

    Well, Rethuglican presidential candidates grovel and genuflect at the feet of casino magnate Sheldon Adelson so they would be hard put to object to Trump on those grounds.

  • dan4

    @7 They are two groups because not all social conservatives are evangelical Christians.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Double checking, Dan4’s right.

    [/zooms in on Venn Diagram]

    Some of the assholes who Trump appeals to are non-Christian assholes.

  • Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

    @15

    Wahhabi Muslims, for example.

  • Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden

    Trump is tapping into deep-seated anger in America, a nation founded by Christians ‘for the glory of God and the advancement of the Christian faith,’

    Huh.

    [RummageRummageRummage…]

    Ah, here’s that thing.

    [Tongue sticks out left side of mouth as Crip Dyke types in some words from a 225 year old piece of paper… ClackityClickety – because her computer makes typewriter sounds after the installation of some brilliant new software that, unfortunately, causes her to stop and unjam the soundboard every minute or two when too many ClackClicks happen at the same time]

    Finished!

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,* do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    *But really, none of that stuff. We establish this government over these lands to create a nation for the sole purpose of giving glory to the god of drowning all the people in the world except just a few because the world was previously full of immorality for the purpose of creating a world without immorality but, sadly, failing in achieving the actual goal despite the slaughter of millions that was accomplished. Yes, yes, Utnapushtim, however vague that definition of “god” might be that’s the one we’re going with.

    Also, we’re kind of hoping that that god is the Christian one and this government will advance the Christian faith. No, Utnapushtim, I don’t wanna hear any more about your theory that the Christian god was originally just the god of plagiarism. We voted. You lost. We only gave in to you last night on the definition of god because we all wanted to get to bed before sunrise. Suck it up, buttercup.

    Well.

    I guess I just never read the fine print.

  • Knight in Sour Armor

    @12 raven:

    It’s more complicated than that sociologically. Fundies are evangelicals but evangelicals are not necessarily fundies.

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com WMDKitty — Survivor

    tfkreference @9

    “Trump is tapping into deep-seated anger in America,”

    I think he misspelled fear.

    Fear and anger aren’t terribly far apart, emotion-wise.

  • blf

    Fundies are evangelicals but evangelicals are not necessarily fundies.

    I’ve always(?) read “fundie” as a (logically-challenged) “individual who, on a routine or public basis, is unable, unwilling, or incapable of distinguishing obvious fantasy from plausible reality” (perhaps especially when the fantasy is magic sky faerie orientated).

    As such, I see no reason to mandate they(fundies) are “evangelicals”, albeit I agree the term “fundie” is mostly applied to xian fantasy-followers.

  • colnago80

    Re #19

    Example, NIH director Francis Collins is a self described Evangelical Christian but certainly no fundamentalist.

  • sharonb

    Well, if tbagger vets overlook Trump’s disdain for POWs, then, why not tbagger Fundies (I know, redundant ) will have no problem with loving another false messiah. They need false messiah to feel whole. Barnum would so dig this!

    Trump-Palin 2016! FTW!!

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    If the Christian right manages to embrace a guy who clearly doesn’t really believe in anything religious other than self-worship, who has always claimed to be pro-choice until running this year, and who trades in his wive for newer models every 15 years or so, that will be an immense farce.

    That’s nothing more or less than the same symbiosis the rich and the church have always striven to maintain. The church needs the rich man’s money, and the rich man needs the church to reconnect him to the people and condone or excuse his actions.

    I’m not sure why you’re at all surprised at this — even more dissolute men than Trump have become Popes, or charismatic cult leaders (think Hubbard or Rasputin).