Atheists Kicked Out of College’s Organization Fair Due to Offensive Pineapple… Really

This is not the Muslim prophet Muhammad:

We know that because it’s a pineapple. You can call it whatever you want, but it’s a pineapple.

No confusion there, right?

Then that makes you smarter than the administrators at Reading University in England. They kicked an atheist group out of the school’s organization fair (“Freshers’ Fayre”) because the students labelled a pineapple “Muhammad” in order to talk about “blasphemy, religion, and liberty”:

“We wanted to celebrate the fact that we live in a country in which free speech is protected, and where it is lawful to call a pineapple by whatever name one chooses,” a society spokesperson said.

Towards the afternoon, the group was informed they had to leave the fair by a member of Reading University Student Union (RUSU) staff. The reason given was several complaints had made against the offending pineapple, although RAHS members insist they were not made aware of any such protestations.

The society refused to remove the fruit due to their “commitment to freedom of expression”, to which they were told by the RUSU member: “Either the pineapple goes, or you do.”

The pineapple was seized. Then it was returned. Then, the atheists renamed the pineapple “Jesus.” That’s when the group was kicked out:

The [Reading University Atheist, Humanist, and Secularist Society] believes in freedom of expression. Our intent in displaying a pineapple labelled “Mohammed” was to draw attention to cases where religion has been used to limit this and other fundamental rights, such as the imprisonment of Gillian Gibbons. We did not expect to be forced out of the Freshers’ Fayre because of a pineapple, and we are disappointed that RUSU took this action.

Outrageous. This wasn’t offensive. It was raising an important point about free speech and the ability to criticize religion without getting punished for it. And yet students and the school’s administration couldn’t handle it.

Papaya Salman Rushdie just shed a single tear.

I don’t get it. Pineapples don’t look like Muhammad, anyway. They bear a much more striking resemblance to Sideshow Bob.

At least the response has been pretty entertaining. The University of Sheffield Secular & Atheist Society planned an event for next week during which they will invite guests to name their own food:

We at the University of Sheffield Secular and Atheist Society do not agree on much, but we do agree on the vital necessity to defend the liberty to name pineapples and all other foodstuffs as we see fit. We also really like potatoes.

Which is why, on Wednesday the 10th of October we encourage all those who are interested in potatoes, freedom of expression and the pursuit of happiness to come to the Interval [bar] armed with a potato, grab a beverage of their choice and then name their potato as they see fit.

I’m personally intending to name at least one potato after David Cameron, and another after Xenu.

There’s also this image :)

It’s all just the latest in a long line of atheist/fruit co-mingling:

(via The Freethinker)

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  • Joe Zamecki

    Their point was proven, I’d say. Undeniably. 

  • A3Kr0n

    ““…the fact that we live in a country in which free speech is protected,”
    Obviously they have their facts wrong because they don’t have free speech.

  • Aaron Scoggin

    Pineapples are the most sacred (and delicious) of all fruits, don’t you know..

  • Anthrosciguy

    “Either the pineapple goes, or you do.”

    No no no.  It’s “either you hightail it outa here or the pineapple gets it”.  Adding “Pardner” is optional.

  • Clarissa
  • observer

    If your faith is so weak that people naming a pineapple after religious figures are enough to make you deny free speech, you’re the one at fault, not the people naming their lunch.

  • Jack

    Naming a pineapple Mohammed/Jesus and then getting kicked out of a place for it is just hilarious.

    I’m sorry for not showing more empathy towards the students but holy fucking christcrackers, this is so batshit insane and ironic I can’t help but laugh my head off.

  • Deanna Jackson

    And, that organization just proved his/her point about free speech.  Also, if their faith is THAT fragile whenever it’s talked about, criticized, or mocked, then maybe they need to re-evaluate their faith.

  • Margaret Redmon

    Free speech is being abridged in the US also

  • Annie

    My Catholic grammar school always hosted a pumpkin decorating contest.  One year, in the late 1970s, I decorated a pumpkin to look like the Ayatollah Khomeini.  I can assure you my childhood self knew nothing about this man, so I blame this on my mother.  But guess what?  I won third place in the contest!   Thank goodness this was before the internet.  Otherwise, who knows what kind of trouble I could have gotten into!

  • Donna Williams
  • DougI

    Imagine the outrage if someone named Cassius Clay decided to change his first name to Muhammad.  

  • Craistslistemailer1980

    The Xtians are indeed still afraid to taste of the fruit from the tree of knowledge 

  • GodVlogger

    I would love to see a school where the atheist group and the muslim group make the following deal:
    the muslim group will publicly announce their support for the notion that the atheist group has every right to draw or criticize muhammad (without fear of violence, etc.), and then the atheist group agrees to respond by NOT drawing  muhammad.

    It would be a microcosm to show that if muslims stopped reacting so wildly then there would be nearly no interest in any draw muhammad day.

  • RebeccaSparks

    Naming a food tends to turn it into a pet.  Then again, maybe I could name it after someone I just don’t like and make mashed potatoes…

  • ɹǝɯɐןq

    This wasn’t offensive. It was raising an important point about free speech and the ability to criticize religion without getting punished for it.
    One important point or several? That section of the OP sounds overly optimistic, perhaps naive.

    1. The named pineapple was –and is– offensive to someone someWHERE. Even these photos embedded the OP. And then any overheard rumors that the blogosphere contains such images is evidently deeply upsetting to some people. We know all this by now. That seems to be the point of the pineapple. Right?

    2. Whatever point/s that pineapple has raised about free speech (artistically I suppose, rather than using prose) we now expect any famous commentary/ies about secular democratic governance to be highly ambiguous, open to interpretation, thus hotly disputed and to some: profane. Even divisively so –if not violently– within types of people we’ve got names for. With their familiar human (arguably inhumane) reactions when they perceive an outsider-cum-moralizer.

    3. Finally, the “ability to criticize religion without getting punished” seems a strange way to put it if we’re still talking about the ultimate punishment we saw dished out owing to a youtuber visually depicting (criticizing) that particular prophet. Those actions/reactions/overreactions might even be approaching certitude for stunts that garner sufficient media coverage. Though of course terror isn’t a good enough reason for everyone to stop pushing the limits of free speech.

  • ɹǝɯɐןq

    To be clear: the youtuber not punished, but 4 others lost their lives as a direct result of that “film”

  • Richard Wade

    The RAHS was very clever with this image. “Ceci n’est pas une ananas” (This is not a pineapple) is a reference to Rene Magritte’s famous 1928 painting, The Treachery of Images, which features a pipe and the words, “Ceci n’est pas une pipe,” (This is not a pipe.) It illustrated the concept that an image of something is not the real thing, and should not be responded to as if it is the real thing!

    I’m sure the subtlety of that reference and the significance of that concept were appreciated by some of the students and faculty at Reading University, but obviously not all.

    I’m growing less and less patient with administrations and officials who run around kissing the asses of rabid spoiled brats who don’t know the difference between intimidation and respect.  These overgrown babies seem to think that if they can intimidate others into accommodating their privileged sensibilities just with their reputation for violence, then they have something equal to and the same as respect.

    Nope, and it’s wearing thinner and thinner. I hope this kind of challenge to the brats and their craven ass kissers continues unrelentingly.

  • Richard Wade

    I just got an idea. Chalk this on college sidewalks and public places all over the world. Confuse the crap out of the complainers, and maybe help them see that it really isn’t Muhammad!

  • Jett Perrobone

    Pineapples don’t look like Muhammad, anyway. They bear a much more striking resemblance to Sideshow Bob.

    I also think they look a lot like Vegeta.

  • pomplemousse

    A minor point – the student union is not part of the university administration, it’s a separate organization run by students and recent graduates.

    I don’t agree that RAHS should’ve been asked to leave the fayre, but I am also disappointed that they chose to make their point in a way that they knew would upset some of the Muslim students, at an event that is supposed to be welcoming to ALL new students. Most of the students I’ve spoken to about it thought they were just being childish or offensive for the sake of it, so I don’t know that they made the point about freedom of expression particularly effectively…

  • Skeptara

    So, an idea… let’s help out our friends across the pond. :) They’re having that second event and all. It’s easy to take a photo of a food with a nametag and send it off/rsvp yes. Here’s the Facebook event Let’s blow this shit up. :) I LOVE a good free speech fest!

  • michael both

    Yes, god-forbid people would attend university and be exposed to views and opinions other than their own. Being welcoming, I presume, also includes being welcoming to atheists, and / or people who think naming pineapples is just fine?

    Them being kicked out makes their point perfectly, and ‘childish’ is not being able to handle differing opinions. It’s a pineapple, that’s all.

    People have the right to their own views, but if they are going to choose to be offended (and their response to the named pineapple is indeed an explicit *choice*) then that is on them. 

  • yohocoma

    These overgrown babies seem to think that if they can intimidate others
    into accommodating their privileged sensibilities just with their
    reputation for violence, then they have something equal to and the same
    as respect.

    How were the “overgrown babies” intimidating here via reputation for violence?  It looks as if complainants went through university administration channels somehow, which is the proper, respectable way for any non-crazed, upright Westerner to lodge a grievance, no?

    I’M sick of the “rabid spoiled brats” who choose to express their atheism through these petulant acts of anti-Muslim bravado, oblivious to the international social and military context the West is engaged in with the Middle East, the center of Islam.  The UK DID involve itself in the slaughter in Iraq and Afghanistan; perhaps the English also owe it to these people not to now inflict our superior Western cultural attitudes on them also.  Ya think?

  • Sindigo

    If the prevailing view really is that the group in question are just being offensive then I’m afraid the enemies of free speech have already won. 

  • Sindigo

    The UK has a negative right to free speech under common law and it is a protected under Article 10 of the European convention. The Education (No. 2) Act 1986 guarantees freedom of speech (within institutions of further education and institutions of higher education. There are many exceptions to this in the UK but I think the phrase “free speech is protected” is a fair one.

  • David McNerney

    It was a pineapple.

    It doesn’t require a concerted effort to understand the psyche of the oppressed masses.  This is not an example of cultural elitism or racial bullying or colonial imperialism.  We don’t need to come see the violence inherent in the system.

    It was a pineapple – and some arsehole got offended, and in doing so made the perfect point: that religion makes human being do stupid things for the stupidest of reasons.

  • Mike De Fleuriot

     And Firefly will come back with Shepard still alive.

  • pomplemousse

     Clearly I have let my naive hope that we could actually get to start of term before any of the student groups started arguing get the better of me.

    As I said before, I don’t agree that RAHS should have had to leave the fayre, and I don’t even think that they should have had to remove the pineapple from their table, even if I think there were better ways that they could’ve made their point.  I think the best outcome we can hope for (given what’s already happened) is some constructive dialogue between RUSU, RAHS and some of religious student groups.

  • pomplemousse

     I’m sure RAHS will rise to that particular challenge.

  • mobathome

    I’ve read in WP and other places that some hadith are strictly interpreted by some as prohibiting visual depictions of prophets to avoid the risk of committing idolatry.  If so, naming any object as Muhammad, including a pineapple, would be forbidden.  Note that a person presenting themselves as themselves and naming themselves Muhammad would then be OK.

    My question is: if I say a particular small and totally empty region of space, say a 3-cm diameter spherical region halfway between Jupiter and Saturn on 10/5/2012-02:00:00.0, contains a depiction of Muhammad, have I violated the fatwa?  More closely, how about if I put out an empty table with a sign saying “Muhammad”?

  • LutherW

    I cannot help but note the contrast with the high regard in which we hold food. A few years ago Oprah was taken to court for insulting hamburgers. Next we will have a person named hamburger and the parents arrested.

  • Mandocommando23

    From what I understand, the film actually had nothing to do with the attacks. It was used as a scapegoat for pre-planned acts of terrorism.

  • Gerritsenjack1

    When freedom of expression is not respected, it is not hilarious.

  • steven

    A pineapple is insulting is it?

    Naming a pineapple after somebody is so random that it is hardly an insult. 

    Was there some sort of competition to come up with the most stupid, obviously totally daft and childish thing , just to see if any Muslims would ever say ‘Look, you’re just being silly now.’, instead of going straight to ‘I’m deeply offended and I want these people off the premises now.’

  • Gerritsenjack1

    There is no right not to be offended, but in this alleged; “Home of the free and land of the brave.” we must respect freedom of expression.  Shame on those who would take our freedoms away when our troops are killing and dying to protect our rights.

  • Gerritsenjack1

    There point about freedom of expression was made very effectively.  It was a clear demonstration that their is no freedom of expression at the place they prefered to use it.  Shame on whoever deprived them of their rights.

  • Tainda

    You must have seen my dreams last night!

  • Tainda

    Did they seize the pineapple because they had to make sure it WASN’T Muhammad?  I would have been afraid to take the pineapple back

  • Kristin

    And Wash too, please!

  • freemage

    Hm… One thing.  Reading the story, I note that while the RUSU folks said their were ‘complaints’, the folks at RAHS said they never received any.  It is perfectly possible that there were no complaints at all, or that those complaints came, not from Muslim students, but from busybodies and nervous nellies seeking to head off potential controversy.

    I’m not saying Muslim students did NOT complain, mind you, merely that it’s possible this was a decision made by a bureaucrat who opted to preempt potential problems (replacing them with the ACTUAL problem of suppressing expression).

  • Larry Meredith

     They weren’t arrested, they were removed from a fair. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean you can say anything anywhere and event organizers are legally forbidden from removing you for it.

  • Larry Meredith

     if I were that Pineapple I’d get myself a lawyer.

  • The Other Weirdo

     There is little sense in holding any sort of dialogue with people whose first reaction is always to set half the world on fire and who never seem to want to change. This is a pattern we’ve seen repeating over and over. You don’t give candy to a baby shrieking for candy, you put it in the corner to think what it’s done. This is functionally equivalent.

  • Rufus_t

    And quite a good counter-example to the creationist banana based arguement:

    they don’t fit easily into the hand,
    unripe fruit looks pretty much the same as over-ripe and ripe fruit,
    they’re covered in pointy bits and need tools to peel them (unlike bananas),
    the flesh of the fruit is fibrous and gets caught in the people’s teeth

  • The Other Weirdo

     Too bad it wasn’t later. Then you could have made it look like it had been dropped out of its coffin.

  • Jack

     That was uncalled-for ;_;

  • Larry Meredith

     Beef Products Inc. recently filed a lawsuit against ABC News for calling their “lean finely-textured beef” pink slime.

  • Larry Meredith

    That Pineapple is named Muhammad! OFF WITH IT’S CROWN!

  • Larry Meredith

     I’m sure it was detained for questioning. they probably sat it down in an empty room over a single hot light bulb and did the good cop, bad cop routine.

  • Baal

     I more or less agree with Jack.  This case is so far beyond the pale that it is hilarious.  The solution to anti-speech is more speech.  Like on mythbusters, it’s time to turn the dial to 11 and blow it up.   They could do a campaign to make a bunch of name tags and start them all over.    “this signpost is the buddha” “this bus bench is lord shiva”  “this hallway is the anti-christ” “this lunch counter is god” and of course “this pineapple is mohamed”. 

  • Baal

     Pineapple also contain proteases so eatting too much raw pineapple is hard on your digestive system (well, by digesting it).  The fruit is eating you while you are eating it.  this is also why using fresh pineapple in your jello is going to not work so well.

  • Benny Cemoli

    Just so you know, this incident occurred in the United Kingdom. A country whose government never has, and never likely will, explicitly grant its citizens the rights of free speech and expression.

  • Tainda

    I just got a picture of this in my mind and laughed.  I can see the pineapple shaking and sweating sweet, sweet pineapple juice

  • Nude0007

    it is a fear tactic. Islam is NOT a religion, but a movement to enslave the world, just like Nazism. We need to stop catering to it like it has some right to exist.

  • Thegoodman

     So, if I can infer from your statements, a justified apology for the death of hundreds of thousands of people in the middle east is the restriction of free speech in the UK? I don’t see how things are related.

  • Thegoodman

     “We’re gonna put you away, son. Put you away for a LOOONNNGGG time. You’re going to be so ripe you wouldn’t be fit for a fruit salad when its all over, if you even get out that is. Our boys in there love them some fresh juice.”-Bad Cop

  • Thegoodman

     If a Muslim group said this publicly, I would respond by drawing Muhammad.

    “Hey guys, we promise not to break the law against you, so as long as you give up some of your fundamental rights, ok?”

    “No thank, we will stay within the law and also completely disrespect your backhanded olive branch. Look at our pictures, haha, in this one Mo is wearing a Yamulke!”

  • hamburger


  • HughInAz

    Or we could show a picture of a communion host in a trash can, with the caption: “This is not Jesus”…


  • Joseph Gerrity

     I love how Nude0007 thinks that he gets to define what the word “religion” means.

    Anyone who thinks they get to redefine commonly accepted words in the English language has a few screws loose.

  • nakedanthropologist

    Um, no.  Islam really is a religion.  And just like any religion, it has its fruitcakes, nuts, bananawhackers, and so on.  There are plenty of good people who happen to be Muslims.  Just like there are plenty of batshit crazy Evangelical Christians.  You are a disgrace to your genus, Nude007 – in all honesty, you make me ashamed to call myself a homo.

  • r.holmgren

    It would appear that the terrorists have indeed terrorized us into submission. Sad.

  • DAN

    I believe the bible states, “The fool has said in his heart, There is NO God.”  I believe that is why he remaines a fool!

  • Nude0007

    uh, no, no other religion has a political component (sharia law) that it demands is followed above and instead of national, state, and local law.  It demands everyone respect it, while refusing to respect any other religion or position, and it refuses to allow people the right to criticize it, to the point of killing them. It actively persecutes women to the inclusion of rape, squashes free speech and anyone who is NOT of their religion is an infidel, which makes them fair game and even giving them brownie points in heaven if they lie, cheat and otherwise persecute the infidel. Now while many other religions state similar things in their holy books, only Islam actively still enforces these things. That is not a religion and should not be classified along with other religions, incurring the protections that are offered to valid religions. The muslims that are not “militant’ still believe the militant ones are just living true to the faith, and doing nothing wrong.

  • Nude0007

    it is not I who is redefining it, but the nation of Islam. There is a reason Japan doesn’t let Muslims into their country, we are just far too “politically correct” to draw the line where it needs to be drawn. 

    Hate me and think me backward if you want, but I remember Hitler and these guys are no different.

  • TheBlackCat

    So…you are saying Christianity wasn’t a religion a few hundred years ago? 

  • TheBlackCat

     National Socialism was an explicitly Christian movement.

  • TheBlackCat

     I should name strombolis…

  • TheBlackCat

    But wouldn’t people think you are naming the table?

  • TheBlackCat

    Are you sure you are replying to the correct thread?

  • Nude0007

    yes, it was the christian version of sharia in action. now you are getting it.

  • Nude0007

    this isn’t a few hundred years ago. this is NOW. Ignore the danger at your peril. Show me another modern religion that insists that they must follow their holy law above and instead of the law of the land, and does all the horrible things I mentioned above.  If christianity and all other religions can get over it, they can too if they want protection under the shield of religious freedom. they are not a religion but merely a terrorist group trying to spread their control through fear.

  • Nude0007

    No, they had every right to be there and say what they want. that was the purpose of the fair. If someone is offended by what they do or say, they have the right to leave or not listen. no one is forcing them to stay and endure the insult.

  • TheBlackCat

     So Islam was a religion a few hundred years ago, but isn’t now, despite the fact that the policies then are the same now as they were then?  Right, that makes total sense.

    I should add there are plenty of Christians right here in the U.S. who have the characteristics you cite.  They call themselves “Dominionists”.  There are also plenty of Muslims all over the world who don’t have the characteristics you cite. 

    In fact the only reason those sorts of Muslim groups have any power is because of Christians who either tried to prop them up to fight their enemies, or propped up oppressive dictatorships that such groups used to stir up resentment.  Most of the traits you criticize Islam for were not that prevalent in the early 1900′s, in fact people are still alive who remember the “good old days” before the oppressive theocracies came into power.

  • TheBlackCat

     Not all Muslims follow sharia, and those that do many don’t put it above secular law.  Many Muslim countries do not support Sharia at all.

    On the other hand many Christians and Jews follow their own religious laws, and many put those above secular laws, or try to get them implemented as secular laws.

  • Larry Meredith

    It’s someone else’s event. If they felt someone was being disruptive and inappropriate, they have every right to kick them out. We can debate whether they should or not, or whether their reason for doing it was morally justifiable, but they still have that right to kick people out of their fair. Freedom of speech just means you’re legally protected from government punishment. You still face consequences from your fellow citizens.

  • Charlie Bucket


  • Charlie Bucket

    Catholicism (how else were good people sucked into taking part in a global conspiracy to pervert the course of justice in covering up sexual abuse of children by priests?).

  • Charlie Bucket.

    Christianity doesn’t need to refer to Sharia for its fascistic rules about how society should be ordered. There is almost no rule in Sharia that wasn’t first in the OT. And the OT wasn’t replaced by the NT – Jesus (supposedly) came to fulfil the OT law – with a sword by the way.

    Dominionists and the Westboro Baptists have probably the most accurate view of Christianity as represented by the Bible.

  • Charlie Bucket.

    The fact that the West has conspired to suppress democracy in the Middle East, and have engaged in murderous actions in support of this, is not a reason to turn our backs on the enlightenment principles than underpin democracy and liberty in the West. 

    It is idiotic to pander to such an agenda.

    Freedom of speech is the cornerstone of democratic prevention of the rise of totalitarian government. ANY suppression of freedom of speech is a direct attack on the sovereignty of the people – already under attack from governments at home.

    It is particularly dangerous when it comes packaged with religious demands. The merger of political power with religious influence is particular dangerous for democracy. At least 1500 years of history in the West has been the course of conflict between temporal and theocratic power, and the attempts to unify them. 

    Democracy and theocracy don’t mix. Freedom is impossible under the latter.

    Instead, we should be encouraging people in the Middle East to return to their democratic and secular movements of 100 years ago. We must try to reignite their belief in democracy and secularism.  This has been poisoned by the combined efforts of Western opposition and Islamic Radicalism.

  • Charlie Bucket

    How precisely could they have made their point that we should be able to criticise religion, religious superstition, and the mythology surrounding religious figures.

  • Brian Macker

    It’s both.

  • Brian Macker

    We involved ourselves in the slaughter of WWII also, and that doesn’t mean it was the wrong thing to do.

    Perhaps you should refrain from the intellectually dishonest Orwellian euphemisms.

    How horrible of us to ask them to follow civilized cultural attitudes when they immigrate to our countries.

  • Slugsie

    While I am completely against the administration chucking them out, I do think what the students did was maybe not the best way to go about it. What they should actually have done is have a selection of fruit, and label each one with a different religions figurehead. So a Pineapple called Muhammed, a Melon named Jesus, a Banana named Vishnu, an Orange named Baal etc etc. Maybe include a fruit labelled Richard Dawkins too. ;)

  • Nude0007

    You keep dragging in the “200 years ago” time frame, but I never mentioned it in either reply.  certainly, organizations change somewhat over time, but the intent and drive of Islam has not. It still wants to control the world by converting or controlling countries and killing non-believers or opponents of Islam.

    The reason those “oppressive regimes” didn’t exist before the 1900′s is that Islam didn’t control the governments. The Mandates still existed in the Quran, and they were working toward their goals, but only when they took over whole governments could they really start implementing their goals en masse. Every country has forces working on it from without or within to pull it in certain directions constantly. This is no excuse for what Islam is or does, indeed, they choose to continue their horrific ways in SPITE of such influences, so trying to blame it on the influence of others is ludicrous.
     Yes, there are christians who feel similarly, but when was it you heard the dominionists last in the news? Still, ALL religious threats need to be neutralized. We have put up with this tyranny far too long. We need to get on with the advancement of the human race.

    Why do you defend Islam so much? What is it to you? How can you defend such horrible actions and beliefs?

    Tghere is NO excuse for the things Islam preaches and does, just like christianity or any other religion.

  • Nude0007

    EXACTLY! The OT pretty much IS sharia law, and teh extremists are true to the faith.

  • Nude0007

    This is always the excuse we get, but it is a weak argument at best. sure some do some don’t, but the teachings say follow it. IF they want to be true to it’s teachings, they DO follow it. How do you know they are not just biding their time till they can take full control, THEN institute sharia law? At any rate, religion is definitely the problem and needs to be eliminated.

  • davycoolguy

    Repeat after me …. logic sane, imaginary friends insane

  • SluttyMary

    While I’m not against what they did at all, it was funny…. England does have some weird laws about ‘defiling religions’.  

  • SluttyMary

     Dawkins would have to be a (unintended pun) vegetable because atheism is not a religion.

  • Jinn Tonic

    President of the society behind the “offensive pineapple” will be a guest panelist on The Jinn And Tonic Show this Saturday at 9PM UK time (8PM GMT), don’t miss it! 

  • ɹǝɯɐןq

    Okay, the timing can clear that video of inciting those 4 embassy deaths.

    Nonetheless there’s a rising bodycount associated with “visually depicting (criticizing) that particular prophet”. Beyond legal punishments, critics are receiving death threats and the offended are inciting violence. Their speech fits an odd definition “free”.

  • I have loose screws

    im gonna redefine the word christian to mean batshit crazy…