The Catholic Church Should Kick Out All Those Bibliophiles

Whenever I come across a new word, I try to look it up… it’s a practice banana-man apologist Ray Comfort might want to adopt.

On his Facebook page, Comfort posted a comment about Christians, the Bible, etc. His usual schtick.

And then the following conversation actually happened:

I’ll give Comfort credit: He was gracious in his apology.

I guess it’s not too surprising that he thought two random things could be blended together like that. This is, after all, the man who believes in an intermediary between a crocodile and a duck…

(via Michael Nugent — thanks to Andrew for the link!)

About Hemant Mehta

Hemant Mehta is the chair of Foundation Beyond Belief and a high school math teacher in the suburbs of Chicago. He began writing the Friendly Atheist blog in 2006. His latest book is called The Young Atheist's Survival Guide.

  • Ellie

    That’s just sad.

  • http://twitter.com/maxbingman1 Max Bingman

    I love how he tells her its its a failing on her part that she noticed a contradiction. She can quote the Bible chapter and verse, which is more than most of us who have read it can do.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001731128615 Rip Van Winkle

      It really and truly doesn’t take that much effort to quote verses of the Bible when you’re writing a comment on the internet. Leonie could’ve been sitting on that comment for days just to make sure all the verses were correct.

      • http://twitter.com/maxbingman1 Max Bingman

        True, but even that implies preparation on Leonie’s part. I know I couldn’t be arsed to put in that kind of effort, at least in this situation.

        • Guest

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          • Leonie

            Sorry. That was me^. Just wanted to say that google is a wonderful tool for online debates regarding the text of the bible. It’s fast too…and doesn’t require a huge amount of preparation ;) I would have put more effort to the discussion in if I could have predicted the outcome!

            • Tainda

              Love the profile pic btw

              • Leonie

                Thanks. I’m relieved in retrospect that my actual photo wasn’t retweeted all around the web!

            • cipher

              Kudos on how you handled it. I would have called him a moron.

              • Leonie

                Thanks. I was running out the door for a family lunch when it all happened. I’ve thought of a million perfect responses since but feckit, doesn’t that always happen?

              • http://twitter.com/maxbingman1 Max Bingman

                Yeah, that would be me too. I usually lack the patience to put together a good response like this one.

  • http://twitter.com/docslacker MD

    Crocaduck! Bibliophile!
    So, a really stupid ox would be an oxymoron?

    • Hajdownunder

      How about a an intermediary between a Bull and a Shitzu?

      • baal

        tzull? Wasn’t he the bad god thing from Ghostbusters?

        • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

          oh right, Baal pretending to be unaware of a fellow deity :P

      • Mairianna

        A Bullshitz????

  • http://twitter.com/docslacker MD

    And Leonie apologises for calling Comfort a book lover. Comfort doesn’t pick up on that. Smooth, Leonie, smooth.

    • Miranda Flemming

      Ray is cunning and smart enough to get away with his con-fort hell doctrine (anyone that has stolen a pencil as a child or looked at a person in lust is off to hell, unless they confess to Jesus, and then they have a get out of hell free card, no matter how many people you have raped or how many children you have molested.) But he’s not supersmart, and he makes numerous slips – contradicts himself frequently, even within a few minutes. He plays dumb about evolution to bait atheists for attention (I believe he is one, of the slimy variety). I believe he loves to play people – he’s dictator-god (and anyone that’s read the bible properly can see that the god of the bible is worse than Hitler with all the mass murders) and the bottom line is money from fleecing the sheepies. Anyone that goes to his page and sprinkles some $$$$$$ gets banned.

  • primenumbers

    Notice how he doesn’t mention that he’s read about cognitive dissonance…. ANd if he did I’m sure he’d think it only applies to other people :-)

    • cipher

      Oh, of course. After all, atheists really know God exists, but they convince themselves there’s no evidence so they can go on sinning.

      There are no words to describe how odious I find that man and his ilk.

      • primenumbers

        “There are no words to describe how odious I find that man and his ilk.” – I don’t know – I think “odious” works quite well…. along with “dishonest” and “abhorrent”.

        • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

          but you see, cipher finds them all inadequate (perhaps all other languages as well!). presumably, our feelings on the matter are less intense than cipher’s.

  • cipher

    “Please show respect for your fellow species.” Priceless.

    I’ve said it so many times, I’ve lost count: fundamentalists have NO sense of irony. Ray may be the king; if there were a Museum of Not Getting It-ness, he’d have pride of place (accompanied by his little lap dog, Kirk).

  • http://twitter.com/KyleHorseman Kyle D F Horseman

    I love that his immediate first thought was, “I think she’s calling me a pedophile.” What the heck is going on in his head to make that leap?

    • LesterBallard

      Christian persecution complex.

      • http://www.facebook.com/rewinn Randall E. Winn

        It’s Martyrbation!

    • GCT

      He’s not even a Catholic priest.

      • Aljaž Kozina

        I know, right? Still, I guess that does not make him any less of an apologist :)

      • kevin white

        That doesn’t stop him. Comfort is one of those guys that everyone should want to punch in the face.

        • http://twitter.com/KyleHorseman Kyle D F Horseman

          Violence is a bridge too far, especially when simple laughter has defeated his arguments so many times before.

          • kevin white

            Believe it or not, I agree with you. But it doesn’t stop the want sometimes.

    • Billy Bob

      Well, he thinks evolution is a lie from the devil and thinks a crocoduck must exist if evolution is true so…

    • Matthew D

      He’s running a business that makes money on a specific business model where antagonists are required to keep it “legitimate”.
      Without consistent finger pointing and fearmongering, these people have nothing but mishmashed values and a tradition of losing followers over the most minor differences in their scripts. They need their “devils and sinners”.

      • http://twitter.com/KyleHorseman Kyle D F Horseman

        All fair points, but inadequate to explain why he’s got pedophile on the brain.

        • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

          gee, i don’t know, the fact that the catholic abuse scandal is increasingly brought up in the media these days? (not to imply that RC necessarily minds the news, but maybe he chats with people who do or something ;) )

        • Miranda Flemming

          he’s made slips before about saying pedeophilia is beneficial to society as it makes people happy and that rape is fun. Also that he’d be in jail if not a ‘christian’ – have posted on this thread some links

    • JA

      I read a story/case study in a writing manual about a guy who was nearly fired for using the word ‘pedagogical’ in a company report (it’s defined as, “of, relating to, or befitting a teacher or education “).

      • Agrajag

        Ofcourse “ped” or “pedo” means child, or related to children. But the only word people are familiar with is “pedophile” – so they misunderstand all the other words. Ask 10 people on the street if it’s acceptable that known pediatrics are allowed to work with children. (ofcourse pediatrics is the branch of medicine that deals with children)

    • Miranda Flemming

      exactly, and he’s made slips before. Ray slipped on a banana peel and said paedophilia is beneficial to society as makes a lot of people happy http://gvsg.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/quotemine-ray-comfort-vol-1.html

  • anti-theist Andy

    I’m an atheist. I find this kind of small minded B.S. childish. Ha Ha, someone didn’t know a word and made an unfortunate connection. Atheism has to do better than this if we are going to change anything. The only one winning here is Ray!

    • Baby_Raptor

      How did you get *him* winning out of this? He made himself out to be a total idiot. And no, I really don’t think we “have to” stop laughing at stuff like this. They do it, and worse, to us daily. As long as we’re not out there being the complete hooting dickholes they are, who cares if we get a laugh once in awhile?

      • anti-theist Andy

        A laugh yes, but to consistently attack people for a lack of education or merely a whole in that education is something only a child should do. Adults who obviously hold themselves to be better educated than Ray should find a higher principal to further their cause. Ray is gracious in his apology and all we atheists seem to want to do is to humiliate! He acts perfectly appropriately and we act like children. You tell me who wins here?

        • http://twitter.com/KyleHorseman Kyle D F Horseman

          Ray’s problem is not a lack of education. Information is constantly made available to him and he consistently ignores it in favor of holding on to laughable arguments and a boneheaded persecution complex that could be cured with a visit to dictionary.com. We’re not laughing at or attacking his lack of education. We’re laughing at the willful ignorance of nearly every word he produces. If we’re shining a light on that for everyone to see, you tell me who wins.

          • anti-theist Andy

            Dictionary.com wins, I suppose. I doubt that pulling Ray’s every word apart or anyone’s for that matter, ignorant or not, will put atheism in a better light. Except to other atheists perhaps. Better to promote a message through our own word and deed than pick holes in their’s.

            • http://twitter.com/KyleHorseman Kyle D F Horseman

              Ray Comfort’s sole mission in life is to tell the world all about how stupid and terrible atheists are, and he does it through dishonesty and deliberate willful ignorance of facts he has already been presented. I don’t give a toss if Christians think I’m nice; their holy book already tells them that I am incapable of good deeds in the first place. I’m not going to be cuddly to a man who speaks of me the way Ray Comfort does on a daily basis just because you think it will make you look better. Visibly responding to every instance of Comfort’s ridiculous behavior and picking it apart in front of his own audience, showing everyone that his entire message is a bad joke poorly told is a perfectly reasonable way to slow the spread of his brand of intellectual parasitism.

        • baal

          hrm, I’m on the don’t be gratuitous in epithets camp but “is something only a child should do.” is the same as calling someone childish. You can’t do that without calling your own (and now mine) maturity into question. Also, still name calling.

          • anti-theist Andy

            Fair play.

        • Vern

          I don’t think anyone was laughing about Ray’s lack of education, but a lack of care in Ray’s part in using a dictionary, and a jumping at conclusions.

        • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

          admittedly there’s no need to get carried away with this story – there’s also no need to get carried away with determining a “winner”.

    • LesterBallard

      It’s not just that Comfort didn’t know the word bibliophile, though that is worthy of scorn, it’s that he thought it was an insult, made from Bible and pedophile. That’s his overworked persecution complex; “the mean old atheist is picking on me”. In his debate with Aron Ra a few months ago, he didn’t know what arboreal meant. Not that big a thing, true, but if you’re going to make a living off of claiming that evolution isn’t true and that others are lying about it, maybe you should know what words like arboreal mean. Ray Comfort, and those like him, are willful ignorance personified.

      • anti-theist Andy

        Attack willful ignorance where it influences the lives of others. The holes in Ray Comfort’s education or anyone elses for that matter is not worthy of scorn, at all. As for a persecution complex, well, judging by the efforts of this page, it’s well deserved. I’ve chuckled at the famous ‘banana’ hypothesis and that ‘is’ worthy of scorn because it’s willfully ignorant and designed to divert people away from a proven truth. Educate and pour scorn only where it’s needed. Atheism will never progress until we have higher minded principals than the theists.

        • http://yetanotheratheist.com/ TerranRich

          Great. So you promote atheism your way, and the rest of us will promote atheism our way. All methods (whether scornful or enlightened and coldly logical) have their place, and all serve together to promote atheism. There is no right or wrong way. Only ways that are more preferable to each of us.

          • anti-theist Andy

            Agreed, up to a point.

      • Glasofruix

        In his debate with Aron Ra a few months ago

        I’d like a link for that please ^^

        • LesterBallard

          Uh, I would suggest this thing called “Google”. I believe it’s known as a “search engine”. Perhaps “Aron Ra” and “Ray Comfort”. Good luck.

      • johnqmo

        Why should “pedophile” be an insult. Its the same idea behind considering “gay” to be an insult.

        Some people are born pedophiles, others are born gay, others are born straight… Its not like people choose their sexual orientation and what turns him/her on.

        • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

          the answer to your question is the typical sex-negative culture of various religions. ask Ray why it should be an insult, i don’t think anyone here is interested in your particular nuance-battle.

        • Ross Thompson

          Yeah, there’s a world of difference between “pædophillia” and “child abuse”. One of them is a horrific crime, and the other isn’t.

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.gwinn Don Gwinn

      I was kinda with you until you decided that Comfort was somehow “winning.” It’s worth remembering that we need not spend all our time gloating over someone’s mistake, of course, but . . . nope.

    • Leonie

      Hi Andy. I actually agree with the first part of your comment. It is mockery and I’m not hugely comfortable with it (because we all make mistakes) but unfortunately, Ray in this, and many other instances does not respond to reason and thus other tools, such as mockery, are more impactful.

      I’m sure you’ve read the exchange but he was discussing ‘meeting’ the
      ‘author’ (i.e. his god –he referred to god being the author of the bible on a
      different thread) of the bible and I selected 2 passages from the bible
      that stated that no one could see god. I then selected 2 more that
      directly contradicted this. He stated:

      ‘There is no contradiction. I know that you will come back at me with more mistakes, but they are your mistakes, not God’s’

      This comment is part of the same conversation and effectively denies me the right to use evidence, reason and logic when debating with him. Although he apologized for his misinterpretation of the word ‘bibliophile’ I would be far happier if he held himself accountable for the misuse of the English Language. He is not just an Evolution Denier, he is an English Language Denier.

      • anti-theist Andy

        Atheism must move forward. I read so much bile and hatred on atheist sites it really does make me think that the current state of ‘internet’ atheism will soon become self defeating. This is one example, a small one, but nevertheless it’s wrong. As for Ray not furnishing you with a debate about your passages, did you really expect one? I debate those passages with plenty of theists and none of them ever resorts to reason. We as atheists need to display the kind of high minded, moral principals that they so badly crave but rarely display under scrutiny. We’ll never move forward like this. We need to show there is a better way.

        • Leonie

          Atheists are human too by definition the only thing we have in common is a lack of a belief in gods. There is no sacred text decreeing how we have to behave. It is a choice that all of us make.

          As an activist interested in promoting secularisation though, I am very keen to understand effective ways of stemming the stream of belief based bilge that constantly percolates into our lives through media sources because it causes real harm, both directly and indirectly. Finding the humour in this and promoting it through gentle mockery may dent Ray’s ego a little bit but it won’t hurt him. It will however perhaps trigger a few fence sitters on his site to question his credibility.

          This incident has got a bit of a following now. A lot of people who wouldn’t have heard of Ray Comfort before, now think his ideas are silly. That would seem to imply that mockery/humour is an effective immunity against the spread of his brand of stupid ideas. Nobody wants to be seen silly by their peers. Would you say the end justifies the means if one fewer person decides to buy Ray’s book? One fewer person will spread his ideas?

          What would your suggestions be for moving forward? How would you make things better?

          • anti-theist Andy

            Educate. Discredit the actions of the religious where we can but do it from the top. Make that the news. Unless your Bill Maher and you have a large audience then poking fun at Ray Comfort won’t even register with him personally. I can’t help but think that of those introduced to Ray from this, an awful lot would have thought him silly anyway and if they’d never seen him, he would have had no effect at all. But what about his fans? They see this too. The more we resort to these tactics, on a one to one level, the less likely it is that we can reach some of those who we otherwise may have attracted. Whilst you and your comments I find perfectly acceptable and very well constructed, it is the coverage that is objectionable. I think you’ve been hijacked a little.

            • Leonie

              I agree. Education is key.
              In the case of avoiding mockery unless you’re Bill Maher….how is Bill meant to find the information if no one is talking about it and it isn’t being shared?

              • anti-theist Andy

                Same way he always has. Same way George Carlin or Bill Hicks did long before the internet. There is more than enough material in the media as a whole.

                • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

                  and this material just ~naturally occurs~ in the media as a whole? doesn’t require anyone’s attention to be drawn by anyone to anywhere at any particular time?
                  besides which, she taught Ray a new word – that might be trivial education, but it’s still education. not that it’s likely to be particularly useful to him, granted.

            • Dubhradh

              I’ve been having this argument on the other side of the fence, that Christians alienate more people when we presume superiority and demand that the rest of the world HAS to see things our way simply because we believe it to be so. I often feel like I’m shouting in the wind but I hope that some day it will start to sink in.

              • anti-theist Andy

                Thank you Dubhradh.

    • Claude

      But it’s funny! And sweet on so many levels (including the gracious apology). We all need some comic relief from stories such as children being tortured because they’re suspected of witchcraft, or a professor threatened with lynching over symbolism, or the steady stream of harrowing tales Mehta digs up.

      Now I’m an atheist who agrees with you that a lot of the rhetoric on atheist sites is obnoxious, but I give this one a pass for hilarity.

      Ray, I sincerely apologise for the use of the word ‘bibliophile’. It means lover of books as I’m sure you know and I never meant to cast that aspersion on you.

      Ha!!

      • Tainda

        I totally agree with this post.

      • 3lemenope

        With Tainda on this one.

      • anti-theist Andy

        I totally agree that it is funny Claude and yes, some light relief is needed occasionally. As I’ve mentioned in another thread if Bill Maher covered it, I’d be laughing. It’s the style of coverage that I see as counter-productive and not just on this page. Funny is one thing, humiliation is another. Bill could do it and because of his reputation it becomes impersonal. If those people who currently edge toward Ray’s way of thinking see that the behaviour of an atheist is to humiliate then we drive them to him. From then on they are lost to that way of thinking. All I’m saying is, if Atheism is to move forward we need to think bigger and better. We can’t do this with bile and rhetoric. They’re holier than thou, we need to “holier” than them.

        • allein

          I don’t understand why it’s only “impersonal” and funny if you are a well-known comedian… How is it less “humiliating” when it’s on a TV show which, I’m guessing, gets a lot more viewers than this blog?

          • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

            there have certainly been guests on Maher’s shows who have displayed audible and visible discomfort, even suffered the audience’s mockery – and some of them even come back for more!

    • Edmond

      Hopefully we can change people and get them to stop “bypassing their intellect”. Ray is not going to be winning if he keeps that up.

      • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

        sadly, Ray is unlikely to stop getting material/moral support from fellow travelers no matter what he keeps up – unless he has a breakdown or something (not that i wish that on anyone who hasn’t knowingly and uncaringly caused one).

    • coyotenose

      Your concern is noted.

    • The Other Weirdo

      I’m not convinced. Telling people not to laugh at people who leap to unwarranted conclusions over the word “bibliophile” is like saying we shouldn’t scorn people who take the word “niggardly” as a racial slur.

  • Tainda

    Respect…you keep using that word

  • Baby_Raptor

    “Just another Atheist insult.” Classic projection…When you constantly insult someone, you become convinced that they’re constantly insulting you back. That’s how you justify.

    As I said when this was posted on FB: The worst part about this is, millions of people listen to this man for advice on how to live their lives. And he’s so stupid/self-absorbed that he can’t be assed to Google a word…He automatically assumes that someone’s attacking him. It’s pathetic.

    • http://abb3w.livejournal.com/ abb3w

      To give the devil his due, more than a few atheists and other folk at the freethinker end of the spectrum have more than a few insulting things to say about Ray Comfort. There’s some probabilistic justification to his expecting that a random remark from a Trekkie supporter of gay marriage is insulting.

      Of course, that generally reasonable expectation does not prevent him from looking ignorant in particular when he jumps to the wrong conclusion.

      • http://www.facebook.com/rewinn Randall E. Winn

        You shouldn’t be able to get out of high school without knowing the word “bibliophile” or at least being able to figure it out.

        • http://abb3w.livejournal.com/ abb3w

          Possibly a deficiency in the on-set tutoring.

  • LesterBallard

    I will give Comfort one thing; I would have bet he’d delete the entire conversation.

  • SeekerLancer

    At least you apologized Ray, but you have a lot of nerve demanding respect from others when you go around telling people on the street they’re going to hell for not practicing your version of Christianity.

  • http://www.facebook.com/garret.brown.7 Garret Shane Brown

    He apologized in the right way and he didn’t try to cover up what he said before. I’ve said some really stupid things before too, and I can kind of see where he got confused. Yeah, he should of looked up the definition first before jumping to conclusions but it was an honest mistake.

  • DougI

    Let’s look into Ray’s mind. An Atheist uses a big word that he doesn’t know so he instantly thinks it must be an insult because Ray believes all Atheists are just cruel, mean people filled with sexual thoughts.

    Looks like the only person doing the insult was Ray.

  • Rain

    NIV version: “No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.”

    I love how the “NIV version” lies its tail off and “translates” the verse to say Jesus is God, even if it means a direct contradiction inside the same verse.

    • The Other Weirdo

      I almost choked, reading it as “…who is himself God and is in closet relationship with the Father…” I was trying to figure out what sort of satire was NIV until I realized I was reading it wrong.

  • Michael

    You mean the crocoduck isn’t a DnD thing? I’m confused.

    • 3lemenope

      Damn you, owlbear!

      • Michael

        Actually, I think I was thinking of the Duckbunny. Yes, DnD can come up with dumber creatures than creationists. Fortunately, however, that one got dropped.

        • coyotenose

          Flail Snails… oddly, less stupid than Creationist arguments.

  • Jill_the_Pill

    Ray Comfort is a Protestant Evangelical, not a Catholic, so I guess we all make mistakes.

    • http://twitter.com/docslacker MD

      Sigh. Comfort thought “bibliophile” meant “pedophile.” The Catholic Church has a bad habit of sheltering pedophiles. Or as Ray Comfort mistakenly thought, bibliophiles.

      • johnqmo

        Why is sheltering pedophiles a bad thing? Should the church discriminate based on sexual orientation?

        Sexual
        orientation is a private, personal bussiness. If someone is a
        pedophile, a gay, straight, bisexual or whatever, is nobody’s bussiness.
        Everyone is equal regardless of what turns him/her on.

        And
        anyway, leaving aside the awful, discriminatory, inhumane act of
        discriminating good people for having been born with a different sexual
        impulse, How would the church know if someone is a pedophile, gay,
        heterosexual or whatever? If he never acts on it, and is a pedophile,
        what is so wrong about sheltering someone who is a pedophile?

        • dafuq

          Nope, nice try buddy. If you don’t understand the difference between sex with children and sex between consenting adults, you have huge issues. Most likely you’re trying to make a point, but it’s not working. I’m gonna go ahead and call you a bigot as well, since you equate homosexuals with pedophiles.

          • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

            he was being absurdly pedantic, but he wasn’t equating homosexuals with pedophiles any more than he was equating heterosexuals with pedophiles. not that i encourage anyone to bother reading his post for comprehension. pedophiles who restrain themselves and seek help are to be commended; the real issue is the actual, active abusers who have been and are being sheltered, which is what johnqmo was dancing around because MD did not use explicit wording.

          • Logan Blackisle

            Pedophilia is being sexually attracted to children.
            Child molestation is acting on that attraction.

            One is thought-crime with no victims, the other is very much a crime.

            Know the difference.

        • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

          nobody has the right to *act on* pedophilia. it’s the sheltering of those who do that is the real issue.

  • Mark W.

    I’m with Ray Comfort on this one. I also think it’s insulting to call Ray or any of his followers Bibliophiles.

    • Bdole

      It certainly is insulting to actual bibliophiles.

  • Bdole

    Neither one was using the word correctly. I’m sure Leonie didn’t think Comfort loves all books and reading in general, but just the Bible.

    • 3lemenope

      That was my initial reaction before Comfort’s apology; I simply thought that Comfort and/or Leonie had confused ‘bibliophile’ with ‘bibliolatrist’. That would have been oodles less stupid than Comfort’s actual thought process as indicated by the apology (which I think he should sill get class points for).

      • Bdole

        It should be baseline normal behavior except that many public figures never acknowledge their errors. So, that he did, is a nice change.

  • Just a sec

    We must not stoop to their level by saying things that are not true. Comfort does not believe in a crocoduck. He believes such an absurd example is a good way to call attention to what he does believe, which is that evolution is false. He’s still wrong, but when we lie about how and why he is wrong it makes us look bad.

    • ZenDruid

      He’s a cheap storyteller. He was so proud of his crockoduck story and his banana story, and then we meanies came along and laughed at him for being intentionally ignorant.

    • http://twitter.com/docslacker MD

      He uses that crocoduck nonsense in serious debate (look up Rational Response Squad on YouTube.) He gets mocked.

    • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

      i agree that sloppy wording isn’t helpful. yes he’s a cheap storyteller, yes he uses nonsense in serious debate, but it is irresponsible to frame his faults of presentation as “believes in [crocoducks]“. i mean, really: the man has enough traditionally nonsensical beliefs without anyone tossing a deliberately-crafted absurd idea onto the same heap. calling someone foolish and ignorant should be done smartly, and that slip isn’t smart. and getting an extra laugh isn’t an adequate excuse – the best comedy is WICKEDLY smart.

  • Pureone

    Maybe it was crafty misdirection- did he actually answer the question posed?

    • Pureone

      Oops, I see the answer is sorta yes. I saw a different edited version before.

      • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

        yeah, there’s no craft needed to parrot “any mistake is yours, not God’s”.

    • Pureone

      Oops, I see the answer is sorta yes. I saw a different edited version before.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1486464681 Jerry Williams

    I guess homogenized milk has a whole other connotation to Comfort…

    • cipher

      Ha!

    • http://www.facebook.com/rewinn Randall E. Winn

      OMG! homogenized milk is made that way to turn kids gay!

  • elric_the_mad

    I would have guessed he thought bibliophile meant “one who f*cks bibles” and that was why he was so offended.

  • Earl G.

    So somehow Ray has gone 50+ years speaking English and has never encountered the word ‘bibliophile’–nor apparently any word containing the ‘phil’ root other than ‘pedophile.’

    It almost makes you think he’s not a well-read guy.

  • johnqmo

    I just love how everyone is criticizing a guy for not knowing the meaning of the word “bibliophile” yet when the media and people and atheists and christians use the word “pedophile” WRONG (to mean child molesters instead of people attracted/in love with children) NO ONE corrects him/her!!!

    Isnt that the definiton of hypocrisy? Dear atheists, first be sure to learn the meaning of the word pedophile (bibliophile: in love with books. Pedophile: in love with children) before you correct others!!!

    • Patrick Reynolds

      So you are a pedophile, then? Good to know, I’ll be sure to child victims away from you.

      • Logan Blackisle

        Pedophilia is a thought crime; child molestation an actual crime.

        So you support condemning people for thoughtcrimes? Good to know – very Christian of you.

        Also, since it seems to have slipped your attention: condemning people for misuse of the word ‘pedophile’ is not a defense of pedophilia, it is a condemnation of the misuse of the word ‘pedophilia’, nothing more, nothing less.


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