The Catholic Church Should Kick Out All Those Bibliophiles

Whenever I come across a new word, I try to look it up… it’s a practice banana-man apologist Ray Comfort might want to adopt.

On his Facebook page, Comfort posted a comment about Christians, the Bible, etc. His usual schtick.

And then the following conversation actually happened:

I’ll give Comfort credit: He was gracious in his apology.

I guess it’s not too surprising that he thought two random things could be blended together like that. This is, after all, the man who believes in an intermediary between a crocodile and a duck…

(via Michael Nugent — thanks to Andrew for the link!)

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  • Ellie

    That’s just sad.

  • http://twitter.com/maxbingman1 Max Bingman

    I love how he tells her its its a failing on her part that she noticed a contradiction. She can quote the Bible chapter and verse, which is more than most of us who have read it can do.

  • http://twitter.com/docslacker MD

    Crocaduck! Bibliophile!
    So, a really stupid ox would be an oxymoron?

  • http://twitter.com/docslacker MD

    And Leonie apologises for calling Comfort a book lover. Comfort doesn’t pick up on that. Smooth, Leonie, smooth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001731128615 Rip Van Winkle

    It really and truly doesn’t take that much effort to quote verses of the Bible when you’re writing a comment on the internet. Leonie could’ve been sitting on that comment for days just to make sure all the verses were correct.

  • primenumbers

    Notice how he doesn’t mention that he’s read about cognitive dissonance…. ANd if he did I’m sure he’d think it only applies to other people :-)

  • cipher

    “Please show respect for your fellow species.” Priceless.

    I’ve said it so many times, I’ve lost count: fundamentalists have NO sense of irony. Ray may be the king; if there were a Museum of Not Getting It-ness, he’d have pride of place (accompanied by his little lap dog, Kirk).

  • cipher

    Oh, of course. After all, atheists really know God exists, but they convince themselves there’s no evidence so they can go on sinning.

    There are no words to describe how odious I find that man and his ilk.

  • http://twitter.com/KyleHorseman Kyle D F Horseman

    I love that his immediate first thought was, “I think she’s calling me a pedophile.” What the heck is going on in his head to make that leap?

  • primenumbers

    “There are no words to describe how odious I find that man and his ilk.” – I don’t know – I think “odious” works quite well…. along with “dishonest” and “abhorrent”.

  • anti-theist Andy

    I’m an atheist. I find this kind of small minded B.S. childish. Ha Ha, someone didn’t know a word and made an unfortunate connection. Atheism has to do better than this if we are going to change anything. The only one winning here is Ray!

  • http://twitter.com/maxbingman1 Max Bingman

    True, but even that implies preparation on Leonie’s part. I know I couldn’t be arsed to put in that kind of effort, at least in this situation.

  • Guest

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  • Leonie

    Sorry. That was me^. Just wanted to say that google is a wonderful tool for online debates regarding the text of the bible. It’s fast too…and doesn’t require a huge amount of preparation ;) I would have put more effort to the discussion in if I could have predicted the outcome!

  • Hajdownunder

    How about a an intermediary between a Bull and a Shitzu?

  • Tainda

    Love the profile pic btw

  • cipher

    Kudos on how you handled it. I would have called him a moron.

  • Baby_Raptor

    How did you get *him* winning out of this? He made himself out to be a total idiot. And no, I really don’t think we “have to” stop laughing at stuff like this. They do it, and worse, to us daily. As long as we’re not out there being the complete hooting dickholes they are, who cares if we get a laugh once in awhile?

  • Tainda

    Respect…you keep using that word

  • Leonie

    Thanks. I was running out the door for a family lunch when it all happened. I’ve thought of a million perfect responses since but feckit, doesn’t that always happen?

  • Baby_Raptor

    “Just another Atheist insult.” Classic projection…When you constantly insult someone, you become convinced that they’re constantly insulting you back. That’s how you justify.

    As I said when this was posted on FB: The worst part about this is, millions of people listen to this man for advice on how to live their lives. And he’s so stupid/self-absorbed that he can’t be assed to Google a word…He automatically assumes that someone’s attacking him. It’s pathetic.

  • Leonie

    Thanks. I’m relieved in retrospect that my actual photo wasn’t retweeted all around the web!

  • LesterBallard

    It’s not just that Comfort didn’t know the word bibliophile, though that is worthy of scorn, it’s that he thought it was an insult, made from Bible and pedophile. That’s his overworked persecution complex; “the mean old atheist is picking on me”. In his debate with Aron Ra a few months ago, he didn’t know what arboreal meant. Not that big a thing, true, but if you’re going to make a living off of claiming that evolution isn’t true and that others are lying about it, maybe you should know what words like arboreal mean. Ray Comfort, and those like him, are willful ignorance personified.

  • LesterBallard

    I will give Comfort one thing; I would have bet he’d delete the entire conversation.

  • LesterBallard

    Christian persecution complex.

  • SeekerLancer

    At least you apologized Ray, but you have a lot of nerve demanding respect from others when you go around telling people on the street they’re going to hell for not practicing your version of Christianity.

  • GCT

    He’s not even a Catholic priest.

  • http://www.facebook.com/garret.brown.7 Garret Shane Brown

    He apologized in the right way and he didn’t try to cover up what he said before. I’ve said some really stupid things before too, and I can kind of see where he got confused. Yeah, he should of looked up the definition first before jumping to conclusions but it was an honest mistake.

  • Billy Bob

    Well, he thinks evolution is a lie from the devil and thinks a crocoduck must exist if evolution is true so…

  • DougI

    Let’s look into Ray’s mind. An Atheist uses a big word that he doesn’t know so he instantly thinks it must be an insult because Ray believes all Atheists are just cruel, mean people filled with sexual thoughts.

    Looks like the only person doing the insult was Ray.

  • http://www.facebook.com/don.gwinn Don Gwinn

    I was kinda with you until you decided that Comfort was somehow “winning.” It’s worth remembering that we need not spend all our time gloating over someone’s mistake, of course, but . . . nope.

  • Aljaž Kozina

    I know, right? Still, I guess that does not make him any less of an apologist :)

  • Rain

    NIV version: “No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.”

    I love how the “NIV version” lies its tail off and “translates” the verse to say Jesus is God, even if it means a direct contradiction inside the same verse.

  • baal

    tzull? Wasn’t he the bad god thing from Ghostbusters?

  • Michael

    You mean the crocoduck isn’t a DnD thing? I’m confused.

  • Leonie

    Hi Andy. I actually agree with the first part of your comment. It is mockery and I’m not hugely comfortable with it (because we all make mistakes) but unfortunately, Ray in this, and many other instances does not respond to reason and thus other tools, such as mockery, are more impactful.

    I’m sure you’ve read the exchange but he was discussing ‘meeting’ the
    ‘author’ (i.e. his god –he referred to god being the author of the bible on a
    different thread) of the bible and I selected 2 passages from the bible
    that stated that no one could see god. I then selected 2 more that
    directly contradicted this. He stated:

    ‘There is no contradiction. I know that you will come back at me with more mistakes, but they are your mistakes, not God’s’

    This comment is part of the same conversation and effectively denies me the right to use evidence, reason and logic when debating with him. Although he apologized for his misinterpretation of the word ‘bibliophile’ I would be far happier if he held himself accountable for the misuse of the English Language. He is not just an Evolution Denier, he is an English Language Denier.

  • anti-theist Andy

    Attack willful ignorance where it influences the lives of others. The holes in Ray Comfort’s education or anyone elses for that matter is not worthy of scorn, at all. As for a persecution complex, well, judging by the efforts of this page, it’s well deserved. I’ve chuckled at the famous ‘banana’ hypothesis and that ‘is’ worthy of scorn because it’s willfully ignorant and designed to divert people away from a proven truth. Educate and pour scorn only where it’s needed. Atheism will never progress until we have higher minded principals than the theists.

  • anti-theist Andy

    A laugh yes, but to consistently attack people for a lack of education or merely a whole in that education is something only a child should do. Adults who obviously hold themselves to be better educated than Ray should find a higher principal to further their cause. Ray is gracious in his apology and all we atheists seem to want to do is to humiliate! He acts perfectly appropriately and we act like children. You tell me who wins here?

  • Jill_the_Pill

    Ray Comfort is a Protestant Evangelical, not a Catholic, so I guess we all make mistakes.

  • http://twitter.com/KyleHorseman Kyle D F Horseman

    Ray’s problem is not a lack of education. Information is constantly made available to him and he consistently ignores it in favor of holding on to laughable arguments and a boneheaded persecution complex that could be cured with a visit to dictionary.com. We’re not laughing at or attacking his lack of education. We’re laughing at the willful ignorance of nearly every word he produces. If we’re shining a light on that for everyone to see, you tell me who wins.

  • anti-theist Andy

    Atheism must move forward. I read so much bile and hatred on atheist sites it really does make me think that the current state of ‘internet’ atheism will soon become self defeating. This is one example, a small one, but nevertheless it’s wrong. As for Ray not furnishing you with a debate about your passages, did you really expect one? I debate those passages with plenty of theists and none of them ever resorts to reason. We as atheists need to display the kind of high minded, moral principals that they so badly crave but rarely display under scrutiny. We’ll never move forward like this. We need to show there is a better way.

  • Mark W.

    I’m with Ray Comfort on this one. I also think it’s insulting to call Ray or any of his followers Bibliophiles.

  • Leonie

    Atheists are human too by definition the only thing we have in common is a lack of a belief in gods. There is no sacred text decreeing how we have to behave. It is a choice that all of us make.

    As an activist interested in promoting secularisation though, I am very keen to understand effective ways of stemming the stream of belief based bilge that constantly percolates into our lives through media sources because it causes real harm, both directly and indirectly. Finding the humour in this and promoting it through gentle mockery may dent Ray’s ego a little bit but it won’t hurt him. It will however perhaps trigger a few fence sitters on his site to question his credibility.

    This incident has got a bit of a following now. A lot of people who wouldn’t have heard of Ray Comfort before, now think his ideas are silly. That would seem to imply that mockery/humour is an effective immunity against the spread of his brand of stupid ideas. Nobody wants to be seen silly by their peers. Would you say the end justifies the means if one fewer person decides to buy Ray’s book? One fewer person will spread his ideas?

    What would your suggestions be for moving forward? How would you make things better?

  • 3lemenope

    Damn you, owlbear!

  • Claude

    But it’s funny! And sweet on so many levels (including the gracious apology). We all need some comic relief from stories such as children being tortured because they’re suspected of witchcraft, or a professor threatened with lynching over symbolism, or the steady stream of harrowing tales Mehta digs up.

    Now I’m an atheist who agrees with you that a lot of the rhetoric on atheist sites is obnoxious, but I give this one a pass for hilarity.

    Ray, I sincerely apologise for the use of the word ‘bibliophile’. It means lover of books as I’m sure you know and I never meant to cast that aspersion on you.

    Ha!!

  • baal

    hrm, I’m on the don’t be gratuitous in epithets camp but “is something only a child should do.” is the same as calling someone childish. You can’t do that without calling your own (and now mine) maturity into question. Also, still name calling.

  • Tainda

    I totally agree with this post.

  • Bdole

    Neither one was using the word correctly. I’m sure Leonie didn’t think Comfort loves all books and reading in general, but just the Bible.

  • Bdole

    It certainly is insulting to actual bibliophiles.

  • Michael

    Actually, I think I was thinking of the Duckbunny. Yes, DnD can come up with dumber creatures than creationists. Fortunately, however, that one got dropped.

  • 3lemenope

    With Tainda on this one.

  • Just a sec

    We must not stoop to their level by saying things that are not true. Comfort does not believe in a crocoduck. He believes such an absurd example is a good way to call attention to what he does believe, which is that evolution is false. He’s still wrong, but when we lie about how and why he is wrong it makes us look bad.

  • anti-theist Andy

    Educate. Discredit the actions of the religious where we can but do it from the top. Make that the news. Unless your Bill Maher and you have a large audience then poking fun at Ray Comfort won’t even register with him personally. I can’t help but think that of those introduced to Ray from this, an awful lot would have thought him silly anyway and if they’d never seen him, he would have had no effect at all. But what about his fans? They see this too. The more we resort to these tactics, on a one to one level, the less likely it is that we can reach some of those who we otherwise may have attracted. Whilst you and your comments I find perfectly acceptable and very well constructed, it is the coverage that is objectionable. I think you’ve been hijacked a little.

  • ZenDruid

    He’s a cheap storyteller. He was so proud of his crockoduck story and his banana story, and then we meanies came along and laughed at him for being intentionally ignorant.

  • anti-theist Andy

    Dictionary.com wins, I suppose. I doubt that pulling Ray’s every word apart or anyone’s for that matter, ignorant or not, will put atheism in a better light. Except to other atheists perhaps. Better to promote a message through our own word and deed than pick holes in their’s.

  • anti-theist Andy

    Fair play.

  • Leonie

    I agree. Education is key.
    In the case of avoiding mockery unless you’re Bill Maher….how is Bill meant to find the information if no one is talking about it and it isn’t being shared?

  • http://twitter.com/maxbingman1 Max Bingman

    Yeah, that would be me too. I usually lack the patience to put together a good response like this one.

  • 3lemenope

    That was my initial reaction before Comfort’s apology; I simply thought that Comfort and/or Leonie had confused ‘bibliophile’ with ‘bibliolatrist’. That would have been oodles less stupid than Comfort’s actual thought process as indicated by the apology (which I think he should sill get class points for).

  • http://twitter.com/docslacker MD

    Sigh. Comfort thought “bibliophile” meant “pedophile.” The Catholic Church has a bad habit of sheltering pedophiles. Or as Ray Comfort mistakenly thought, bibliophiles.

  • http://twitter.com/docslacker MD

    He uses that crocoduck nonsense in serious debate (look up Rational Response Squad on YouTube.) He gets mocked.

  • Matthew D

    He’s running a business that makes money on a specific business model where antagonists are required to keep it “legitimate”.
    Without consistent finger pointing and fearmongering, these people have nothing but mishmashed values and a tradition of losing followers over the most minor differences in their scripts. They need their “devils and sinners”.

  • Glasofruix

    In his debate with Aron Ra a few months ago

    I’d like a link for that please ^^

  • Pureone

    Maybe it was crafty misdirection- did he actually answer the question posed?

  • http://yetanotheratheist.com/ TerranRich

    Great. So you promote atheism your way, and the rest of us will promote atheism our way. All methods (whether scornful or enlightened and coldly logical) have their place, and all serve together to promote atheism. There is no right or wrong way. Only ways that are more preferable to each of us.

  • Pureone

    Oops, I see the answer is sorta yes. I saw a different edited version before.

  • Pureone

    Oops, I see the answer is sorta yes. I saw a different edited version before.

  • anti-theist Andy

    Same way he always has. Same way George Carlin or Bill Hicks did long before the internet. There is more than enough material in the media as a whole.

  • Dubhradh

    I’ve been having this argument on the other side of the fence, that Christians alienate more people when we presume superiority and demand that the rest of the world HAS to see things our way simply because we believe it to be so. I often feel like I’m shouting in the wind but I hope that some day it will start to sink in.

  • anti-theist Andy

    Agreed, up to a point.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1486464681 Jerry Williams

    I guess homogenized milk has a whole other connotation to Comfort…

  • Mairianna

    A Bullshitz????

  • anti-theist Andy

    I totally agree that it is funny Claude and yes, some light relief is needed occasionally. As I’ve mentioned in another thread if Bill Maher covered it, I’d be laughing. It’s the style of coverage that I see as counter-productive and not just on this page. Funny is one thing, humiliation is another. Bill could do it and because of his reputation it becomes impersonal. If those people who currently edge toward Ray’s way of thinking see that the behaviour of an atheist is to humiliate then we drive them to him. From then on they are lost to that way of thinking. All I’m saying is, if Atheism is to move forward we need to think bigger and better. We can’t do this with bile and rhetoric. They’re holier than thou, we need to “holier” than them.

  • anti-theist Andy

    Thank you Dubhradh.

  • http://abb3w.livejournal.com/ abb3w

    To give the devil his due, more than a few atheists and other folk at the freethinker end of the spectrum have more than a few insulting things to say about Ray Comfort. There’s some probabilistic justification to his expecting that a random remark from a Trekkie supporter of gay marriage is insulting.

    Of course, that generally reasonable expectation does not prevent him from looking ignorant in particular when he jumps to the wrong conclusion.

  • Vern

    I don’t think anyone was laughing about Ray’s lack of education, but a lack of care in Ray’s part in using a dictionary, and a jumping at conclusions.

  • kevin white

    That doesn’t stop him. Comfort is one of those guys that everyone should want to punch in the face.

  • Edmond

    Hopefully we can change people and get them to stop “bypassing their intellect”. Ray is not going to be winning if he keeps that up.

  • http://twitter.com/KyleHorseman Kyle D F Horseman

    Ray Comfort’s sole mission in life is to tell the world all about how stupid and terrible atheists are, and he does it through dishonesty and deliberate willful ignorance of facts he has already been presented. I don’t give a toss if Christians think I’m nice; their holy book already tells them that I am incapable of good deeds in the first place. I’m not going to be cuddly to a man who speaks of me the way Ray Comfort does on a daily basis just because you think it will make you look better. Visibly responding to every instance of Comfort’s ridiculous behavior and picking it apart in front of his own audience, showing everyone that his entire message is a bad joke poorly told is a perfectly reasonable way to slow the spread of his brand of intellectual parasitism.

  • http://twitter.com/KyleHorseman Kyle D F Horseman

    Violence is a bridge too far, especially when simple laughter has defeated his arguments so many times before.

  • http://twitter.com/KyleHorseman Kyle D F Horseman

    All fair points, but inadequate to explain why he’s got pedophile on the brain.

  • kevin white

    Believe it or not, I agree with you. But it doesn’t stop the want sometimes.

  • elric_the_mad

    I would have guessed he thought bibliophile meant “one who f*cks bibles” and that was why he was so offended.

  • coyotenose

    Flail Snails… oddly, less stupid than Creationist arguments.

  • coyotenose

    Your concern is noted.

  • cipher

    Ha!

  • LesterBallard

    Uh, I would suggest this thing called “Google”. I believe it’s known as a “search engine”. Perhaps “Aron Ra” and “Ray Comfort”. Good luck.

  • Earl G.

    So somehow Ray has gone 50+ years speaking English and has never encountered the word ‘bibliophile’–nor apparently any word containing the ‘phil’ root other than ‘pedophile.’

    It almost makes you think he’s not a well-read guy.

  • johnqmo

    Why is sheltering pedophiles a bad thing? Should the church discriminate based on sexual orientation?

    Sexual
    orientation is a private, personal bussiness. If someone is a
    pedophile, a gay, straight, bisexual or whatever, is nobody’s bussiness.
    Everyone is equal regardless of what turns him/her on.

    And
    anyway, leaving aside the awful, discriminatory, inhumane act of
    discriminating good people for having been born with a different sexual
    impulse, How would the church know if someone is a pedophile, gay,
    heterosexual or whatever? If he never acts on it, and is a pedophile,
    what is so wrong about sheltering someone who is a pedophile?

  • johnqmo

    Why should “pedophile” be an insult. Its the same idea behind considering “gay” to be an insult.

    Some people are born pedophiles, others are born gay, others are born straight… Its not like people choose their sexual orientation and what turns him/her on.

  • johnqmo

    I just love how everyone is criticizing a guy for not knowing the meaning of the word “bibliophile” yet when the media and people and atheists and christians use the word “pedophile” WRONG (to mean child molesters instead of people attracted/in love with children) NO ONE corrects him/her!!!

    Isnt that the definiton of hypocrisy? Dear atheists, first be sure to learn the meaning of the word pedophile (bibliophile: in love with books. Pedophile: in love with children) before you correct others!!!

  • dafuq

    Nope, nice try buddy. If you don’t understand the difference between sex with children and sex between consenting adults, you have huge issues. Most likely you’re trying to make a point, but it’s not working. I’m gonna go ahead and call you a bigot as well, since you equate homosexuals with pedophiles.

  • allein

    I don’t understand why it’s only “impersonal” and funny if you are a well-known comedian… How is it less “humiliating” when it’s on a TV show which, I’m guessing, gets a lot more viewers than this blog?

  • Patrick Reynolds

    So you are a pedophile, then? Good to know, I’ll be sure to child victims away from you.

  • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

    gee, i don’t know, the fact that the catholic abuse scandal is increasingly brought up in the media these days? (not to imply that RC necessarily minds the news, but maybe he chats with people who do or something ;) )

  • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

    oh right, Baal pretending to be unaware of a fellow deity :P

  • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

    but you see, cipher finds them all inadequate (perhaps all other languages as well!). presumably, our feelings on the matter are less intense than cipher’s.

  • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

    nobody has the right to *act on* pedophilia. it’s the sheltering of those who do that is the real issue.

  • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

    he was being absurdly pedantic, but he wasn’t equating homosexuals with pedophiles any more than he was equating heterosexuals with pedophiles. not that i encourage anyone to bother reading his post for comprehension. pedophiles who restrain themselves and seek help are to be commended; the real issue is the actual, active abusers who have been and are being sheltered, which is what johnqmo was dancing around because MD did not use explicit wording.

  • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

    the answer to your question is the typical sex-negative culture of various religions. ask Ray why it should be an insult, i don’t think anyone here is interested in your particular nuance-battle.

  • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

    and this material just ~naturally occurs~ in the media as a whole? doesn’t require anyone’s attention to be drawn by anyone to anywhere at any particular time?
    besides which, she taught Ray a new word – that might be trivial education, but it’s still education. not that it’s likely to be particularly useful to him, granted.

  • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

    there have certainly been guests on Maher’s shows who have displayed audible and visible discomfort, even suffered the audience’s mockery – and some of them even come back for more!

  • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

    admittedly there’s no need to get carried away with this story – there’s also no need to get carried away with determining a “winner”.

  • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

    sadly, Ray is unlikely to stop getting material/moral support from fellow travelers no matter what he keeps up – unless he has a breakdown or something (not that i wish that on anyone who hasn’t knowingly and uncaringly caused one).

  • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

    i agree that sloppy wording isn’t helpful. yes he’s a cheap storyteller, yes he uses nonsense in serious debate, but it is irresponsible to frame his faults of presentation as “believes in [crocoducks]“. i mean, really: the man has enough traditionally nonsensical beliefs without anyone tossing a deliberately-crafted absurd idea onto the same heap. calling someone foolish and ignorant should be done smartly, and that slip isn’t smart. and getting an extra laugh isn’t an adequate excuse – the best comedy is WICKEDLY smart.

  • http://twitter.com/TheNuszAbides TheNuszAbides

    yeah, there’s no craft needed to parrot “any mistake is yours, not God’s”.

  • Ross Thompson

    Yeah, there’s a world of difference between “pædophillia” and “child abuse”. One of them is a horrific crime, and the other isn’t.

  • The Other Weirdo

    I almost choked, reading it as “…who is himself God and is in closet relationship with the Father…” I was trying to figure out what sort of satire was NIV until I realized I was reading it wrong.

  • The Other Weirdo

    I’m not convinced. Telling people not to laugh at people who leap to unwarranted conclusions over the word “bibliophile” is like saying we shouldn’t scorn people who take the word “niggardly” as a racial slur.

  • Logan Blackisle

    Pedophilia is a thought crime; child molestation an actual crime.

    So you support condemning people for thoughtcrimes? Good to know – very Christian of you.

    Also, since it seems to have slipped your attention: condemning people for misuse of the word ‘pedophile’ is not a defense of pedophilia, it is a condemnation of the misuse of the word ‘pedophilia’, nothing more, nothing less.

  • Logan Blackisle

    Pedophilia is being sexually attracted to children.
    Child molestation is acting on that attraction.

    One is thought-crime with no victims, the other is very much a crime.

    Know the difference.

  • JA

    I read a story/case study in a writing manual about a guy who was nearly fired for using the word ‘pedagogical’ in a company report (it’s defined as, “of, relating to, or befitting a teacher or education “).

  • Bdole

    It should be baseline normal behavior except that many public figures never acknowledge their errors. So, that he did, is a nice change.

  • Agrajag

    Ofcourse “ped” or “pedo” means child, or related to children. But the only word people are familiar with is “pedophile” – so they misunderstand all the other words. Ask 10 people on the street if it’s acceptable that known pediatrics are allowed to work with children. (ofcourse pediatrics is the branch of medicine that deals with children)

  • http://www.facebook.com/rewinn Randall E. Winn

    It’s Martyrbation!

  • http://www.facebook.com/rewinn Randall E. Winn

    You shouldn’t be able to get out of high school without knowing the word “bibliophile” or at least being able to figure it out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rewinn Randall E. Winn

    OMG! homogenized milk is made that way to turn kids gay!

  • http://abb3w.livejournal.com/ abb3w

    Possibly a deficiency in the on-set tutoring.

  • Miranda Flemming

    exactly, and he’s made slips before. Ray slipped on a banana peel and said paedophilia is beneficial to society as makes a lot of people happy http://gvsg.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/quotemine-ray-comfort-vol-1.html

  • Miranda Flemming
  • Miranda Flemming

    Ray and Eric slip in their own slime and admit if they weren’t ‘christians’ they’d be doing whatever they like and would be in jail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BO7l_ax6NM

  • Miranda Flemming
  • Miranda Flemming

    about Ray – check out the banana photo & description and keep in mind that fruit is a symbol for sex, even in the bible. A loose paraphrase of Ray’s banana video is: ‘open the zipper, I mean ‘tab’…take the shaft of the fruit in your hand – it fits so perfectly in your hand…..peel back the non-slip sheath to reveal the delicious fruit inside….you won’t be squirted in the face (although that might be fun?)…. envelope the head in your mouth….hmmmm….and you’re in heaven http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ray_Comfort

  • Miranda Flemming

    he’s made slips before about saying pedeophilia is beneficial to society as it makes people happy and that rape is fun. Also that he’d be in jail if not a ‘christian’ – have posted on this thread some links

  • Miranda Flemming

    Ray is cunning and smart enough to get away with his con-fort hell doctrine (anyone that has stolen a pencil as a child or looked at a person in lust is off to hell, unless they confess to Jesus, and then they have a get out of hell free card, no matter how many people you have raped or how many children you have molested.) But he’s not supersmart, and he makes numerous slips – contradicts himself frequently, even within a few minutes. He plays dumb about evolution to bait atheists for attention (I believe he is one, of the slimy variety). I believe he loves to play people – he’s dictator-god (and anyone that’s read the bible properly can see that the god of the bible is worse than Hitler with all the mass murders) and the bottom line is money from fleecing the sheepies. Anyone that goes to his page and sprinkles some $$$$$$ gets banned.


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