Charlie Fuqua says Death Penalty an Option for Rebellious Children

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by Bruce Gerencser

Charlie Fuqua, Republican candidate for the Arkansas House of Representatives, supports the death penalty for rebellious children.

Fuqua wrote:

The maintenance of civil order in society rests on the foundation of family discipline. Therefore, a child who disrespects his parents must be permanently removed from society in a way that gives an example to all other children of the importance of respect for parents. The death penalty for rebellious children is not something to be taken lightly. The guidelines for administering the death penalty to rebellious children are given in Deut 21:18-21:

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

This passage does not give parents blanket authority to kill their children. They must follow the proper procedure in order to have the death penalty executed against their children. I cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death. Why is this so? Other than the love Christ has for us, there is no greater love then that of a parent for their child. The last people who would want to see a child put to death would be the parents of the child. Even so, the Scripture provides a safe guard to protect children from parents who would wrongly exercise the death penalty against them. Parents are required to bring their children to the gate of the city. The gate of the city was the place where the elders of the city met and made judicial pronouncements. In other words, the parents were required to take their children to a court of law and lay out their case before the proper judicial authority, and let the judicial authority determine if the child should be put to death. I know of many cases of rebellious children, however, I cannot think of one case where I believe that a parent had given up on their child to the point that they would have taken their child to a court of law and asked the court to rule that the child be put to death. Even though this procedure would rarely be used, if it were the law of land, it would give parents authority. Children would know that their parents had authority and it would be a tremendous incentive for children to give proper respect to their parents.

Yesterday, The Arkansas Times posted an article about Fuqua’s death penalty for children view. At the bottom of the article, there is a short list of Fuqua’s recent campaign contributors. Guess who is on the list? None other than Jim Bob Duggar of Duggar family fame. (250.00 donation)

This story is a reminder of how dangerous right wing extremists are when armed with certainty and a literal interpretation of the Christian Bible. We must be vigilant in standing against those who advocate a theocratic form of government. Christian theocrats are no different than the Taliban or extremist Muslims and their influence must be countered at every turn.

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Bruce Gerencser spent 25 years pastoring Independent Fundamental Baptist, Southern Baptist, and Christian Union churches in Ohio, Michigan, and Texas. Bruce attended Midwestern Baptist College in Pontiac, Michigan. He is a writer and operates The Way Forward blog. Bruce lives in NW Ohio with his wife of 32 years. They have 6 children, and five grandchildren.

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  • Saraquill

    Knowing that my parents want me dead is a very good incentive not to respect them.

  • thalwen

    How? How do you even formulate a thought like this? Much less put it into words? And then have people vote for you knowing that you believe something like this?
    Considering what the fundies consider rebellion, most children would not last beyond their first birthday before being “justly” put to death. And I bet he calls himself “pro-life” too.

  • yulaffin

    They are pro-life – until you are born. Then you’re on your own.

  • Nancy B

    Views like his, articulated, can quickly plant a seed in a sick mind. Especially since religious delusions are VERY common in mental illness. We already have Christian authors/speakers/teachers advocating whipping infants and turning gay teens out into the street. We already have enough accidental child deaths due to beatings, food withholding, medicine and surgery and transfusion withholding and hot saucing and other practices. This is an open invitation for parents to play God even more than they do : I can dictate your life so severely from birth that you don’t even have the spirit to question, let alone rebel, because I have terrified you about the sureness of disobedience leading to Hell. Now I can terrorize you with the threat of imminent death itself. You will reach adulthood so broken and emotionally crippled you will be able to do no more than reproduce your childhood for your own children (home grown victims).

    And, yes, if American Christians had one tenth of the concern Christ taught for children that they do a fascination with zygotes, we would have a nation that could justly call itself Godly. But our loudest Christians don’t even want children to have the “entitlements” of food and medicine.

    Remember Tony Campolo’s words in front of a Christian audience? “Number one:thirty thousand children worldwide died yesterday of hunger and disease. Number two:Most of you don’t give a shit. Number three: Most of you are far more upset that I just said “shit”: than you are about the thirty thousand dead children.”

  • Carol

    The bible says it’s OK to kill your children? Well then, that’s just f-ing great. Let’s do it, why wait. Let’s just make sure they get born, then set up a pricey court system to have them killed. Next up, wives. Oh, and it’s only for your own good, because we love you, and as a deterrent to others. This is the voice of the “smaller government” hypocrites, somehow there’s always enough money for prisons. And now, a death court for kids who bug their parents. I am so sick of their stupid high and mighty principles that never coincide with reality and their moronic phony family values and the high cost associated with it. I’m sick of paying and paying and paying for their bullshit.

    As it is, we already have enough children in prison. Guess that’s just not f-ing good enough for the oh so moral Christian right wing. Bet they can’t wait to get their blood soaked hands on those children. Anyone who says that comparing them to the taliban is hyperbolic is just so full of shit, it’s no wonder they don’t realize it, the shit they’re full of is preventing them from seeing clearly, nothing but a giant enema shoved up their tight, puckered asses can help them now.

    Have a nice day.

  • http://soullibertyfaith.com Sisterlisa

    It’s sad to think of how many people get caught up in these cults (been there myself). But to even approach the OT for ‘evidence’ to use the death penalty as a means to threaten children is ridiculous. The law didn’t work, hence Christ came! To live by the letter of the law kills. Walking in Christ is nothing like walking in the law. It’s a travesty that these churches claim to be New Testament Churches. Jesus didn’t even allow the woman to be stoned to death, let alone a child. If this is what the Republican party is bringing into the future generations, forget it!

  • Nancy B

    Can anyone explain how this is different from what happened to Malala Yousufzai ?

    Little girls worldwide are forced into marriage, sex slavery, circumcision, illiteracy, life long drudgery in sweatshops, factories and maids to the wealthy. In our country a day does not go by when we don’t hear about a pedophile porn ring, a toddler beaten to death by her mother’s boyfriend, a little girl raped in the stairwell of a housing project, a child snatched from a school bus stop to be raped amd murdered.

    Where is the Christian voice? Where is the money? In laws to prevent gay Americans from obtaining marriage certificates from their government. And laws to prevent abortion from becoming the clinical procedure it became in 1973 and back into an industry where desperate women paid anyone who could perform an illegal, crude abortion.

    Younger people do not remember the pre Roe v Wade days and somehow believe abortion is new or more prevelent now. In truth women have tried to self abort since earliest history. And, oddly enough, the act of abortion was not illegal for many centuries.

    Why in 2012 are we debating whether the government can follow us into the doctor’s office? We can’t even protect women and children from traffickers, maniacs and abusers. The solution is to make women & children even MORE vulnerable to whatever religious tome is more common in their country??? And the MEN who interpret it??

  • http://krwordgazer.blogspot.com krwordgazer

    I don’t see why Mr. Fuqua is ignoring the plain sense of the Scriptures in this lukewarm way. It’s quite clear that stoning is supposed to be the method of execution, and yet he has done nothing to re-establish this godly method of execution and restore the biblical pattern. Shame on him.

  • http://krwordgazer.blogspot.com krwordgazer

    (I hope everyone realizes that was humor)

  • http://calulu.blogspot.com Calulu

    I’ll try to remember what you suggested is humor the next time my son steals a diet coke out of my secret stash and my hand finds a rock (Just kidding!! There is nothing that could ever make me want to stone my kids to death no matter how many things of mine get poached!)

  • Carol

    Why don’t we just rebuilt the Temple in Jerusalem (or in Missouri for Romney) again and start sacrificing goats to cure boils, if they want to do everything the OT way, let’s do it. Only the Cohens and the Levines can enter the inner sanctum, though. No Fuquas or Romneys allowed. What’re they waiting for, the cowardly sonsabitches.

  • evettems1966

    Hey I have a REALLY great idea since we’re supposed to use stoning as a deterrent so our kids will behave. Then of course, the first step should be (to set a good example) is to stone any who sin, starting of course with our leaders who are supposed to be the examples that our children are supposed to be emulating. Now of course once we’re done most of these men including I’m willing to bet MR. Fuqua would be dead and there would be no council left to judge our kids!! Seriously are you not disrespecting your pastor, bible, and yes, the Lord when you sin? And Mr. Fuqua wants children stoned for disrespecting their parents-so what’s the difference. So let the men be judged since they seem to be the ones who would do the stoning and judging or am I the only one who noticed that there are no women participating in Mr. Fuquas’ little fantasy.

  • madame

    Kristen, if he is going to re-establish the old practice, then he should make sure it is done properly. Bring back the circle of elders at the gates, make sure the death is by stoning.
    AND, bring back all of the OT law. Including all the impurity laws, sacrifices to atone for one’s sin, uncleanness for all the various reasons, etc… bring the whole thing back, in all it’s tedious, bloody goriness!

  • Rae

    So this guy says he’s committed to “protecting the sanctity of life”. Which is pretty much politician code for “life begins at conception.” Here, he expresses his desire to make it possible to have disrespectful, rebellious children killed for probably not even doing anything that would get an adult a jail sentence.

    So, if a couple felt that their fetus was rebelling against them and being disrespectful (and gluttonous!), would they be allowed to get an abortion?

  • JetGirl

    Ha! Leviticus forbids anyone with a physical handicap from approaching the altar. Mr. Fuqua wears glasses, so he can be considered disabled. No altar for him!

  • wanderer

    All this while he runs for office in a country that was started by a Rebellion.

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  • http://biblefunmentionables.wordpress.com/ Michael Morris

    I have troubles with my teenagers’ rebelliousness, but I think I’ll let them live. Charlie Fuqua’s comments on killing the occasional rebellious child are so two millennia ago. Check out my blog post about the Bible’s view of parenting lessons from the Bible at my Bible Funmentionables blog. It’s actually pretty entertaining (for the Bible). http://biblefunmentionables.com/2012/10/13/rebel-without-a-pulse/

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