Quoting Quiverfull: Children ‘Evil’?

QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull honestly and thoughtfully.

Voddie Baucham from his sermon “The Doctrine of Total Depravity”

“One of the reasons that God makes human babies small is so they won’t kill their parents in their sleep. They’re evil. Yes, this is true of children. ‘None is righteous; no, not one.’…Yes, that little, precious one—you better believe it. If you don’t, you miss the big picture and you don’t realize your desperate need to get the gospel to your child again and again and again and again.”

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  • Nightshade

    And here I thought babies were small so that they could fit through the appropriate portion of mother’s anatomy at the time of birth…silly me.

  • http://followingontoknow.blogspot.com Mrs. Searching

    Ugh. What psychopaths. Lol @ Nightshade.

  • texcee

    This is just SICK. This MAN is evil, not precious little ones, who come into this world innocent and without sin.

  • thalwen

    There are species of spiders where the small newborns eat their mother. So clearly, it isn’t size that keeps one from being murderous it’s just biological adaptability. But yeah, murderous babies? That’s something out of bad horror films.

  • Saraquill

    Like babies even have the strength coordination and reasoning skills to take down those much bigger than them.
    More pressingly, if young children are inherently murderous, why insist that so many be made and stay in the same household where their superior numbers will allow them to take down the parents?

    • texcee

      LOL! Yeah, the Duggar children should have done away with Jim Bob and Michelle a long time ago!

  • http://krwordgazer.blogspot.com krwordgazer

    Hah. If “getting the gospel to your child again and again and again” is so important to this movement, then why is it that instead of the gospel, all they give their kids is law and punishment?
    This movement sets up an adversarial, zero-sum, no-win relationship between parents and children, and then blames the children for the bad results.

  • Lolly

    The gospel was the thing with Jesus telling his followers to back off the little children, right?

    • http://biblicalpersonhood.wordpress.com/ Retha

      The gospel is also that thing where Jesus say: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” – Matthew 18:3

  • Rae

    Ugh, this is just so horrifying to me when you think about the number of parents who really do kill their children in their sleep, and one of the reasons that they’re capable of doing it is precisely because babies are small and defenseless :-(

  • http://belljaimie@ymail.com Jaimie

    Children are evil but having as many as possible is godly. *Head explodes*

  • http://biblicalpersonhood.wordpress.com/ Retha

    What’s with “your desperate need to get the gospel to your child again and again and again and again”?

    The gospel is the message that Jesus changes us from the inside, if we accept Him as Savior.
    If a child or adult accepts Jesus, there is no need or use to preach the message again and again and again and again. If a child or adult refuse to do so, the preaching of the message again and again and again and again will do nothing – it is the accepting that make the difference, not the preaching.

    And despite believing that children develop a capacity to do sin as soon as they develop a capacity to see an action as “right” or “wrong”, I see no evidence of children having this great desire to kill parents. Even neglected children whose parents never teach them values very seldom grow up to kill parents.

  • KarenH

    Again, they look at the world and see everything backwards.

    As someone else noted, babies are small in order to fit through the birth canal (and it’s a system that works most of the time). Also babies are made helpless, so that we feel protective and learn to love and cherish them, before they start picking up annoying habits like talking back. This is so we feel invested in them by thw time they do pick up those habits and don’t kill them. It’s also why God makes all children at all ages as adorable as newborns again when they sleep–it defends them against us murdering them when they can’t defend themselves.

    I’m mostly kidding :)

  • madame

    I wonder what Mr and Mrs. Baucham (Voddie’s parents) did to him to stir up a desire to murder them.

  • texcee

    He must have been watching too much “Family Guy” and think all babies are Stewie Griffins.

  • Petticoat Philosopher

    This is just so…bizarre. And twisted. It’s ironic that these are the people having loads of kids because anyone who feels this way about children should NOT be a parent!

    Also, I’m not a Christian, nor have I ever been so nobody but street evangelists etc. ever tried to “get the gospel” to me. What’s his explanation for why I have never desired nor tried to kill my parents?

    • Nea

      Maybe he doesn’t realize that the reason why kids might want to kill their parents in their sleep is because they’ve had the Gospel hammered into them over and over? Like the guy who said that toddlers cry when they see their parents coming and they (the toddlers) know they are sinning… and all the non-Christians pretty much think “Dude, if your kids cry when they see you coming, you’re the one doing something wrong!”

    • http://alisoncummins.com Alison Cummins

      Exactly.

  • Sallie

    That’s just chilling. God forbid somebody takes it the wrong way, as permission to do violence to children or even kill them. I can’t really make that follow logically in my head, but then I can’t really make most of Quiverfull logical in my head, so I worry that it might sound sensible to certain ears.