Quoting Quiverfull: Paying Debts?

February 4, 2013 By 5 Comments

“Don’t Pay This Debt” by Nancy Campbell at Above Rubies -  Thursday January 31, 2013

Don’t you hate being in debt? There are always so many bills to pay and you are scrounging from here and there to pay them.

I’ve got some good news for you. There is one debt you don’t have to pay! Oh yes, there is great pressure on us to pay this debt, and many times we pay it unnecessarily. What is it? It is the debt to our flesh–our feelings and fleshly desires. Romans 8:12 says, “We are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.” In others words, we are not obligated to the flesh one tiny bit!

You do not have to give into that anger! You do not have to give into bitterness and self-pity. You do not have to retort back to your husband. Instead, deny your feelings and flesh! That means say No to it, and yield to the Holy Spirit instead. The life of Jesus, who lives in you, is filled with love, patience, longsuffering, and joy.

If only we could go through each day being reminded of this truth! What a difference it will make to the atmosphere of our home. What a difference it will make to our marriage relationship and to our children who are learning how God wants them to live.

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QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • Nea

    “deny your feelings ”

    Well, that sums up the whole toxic message in three words. How very dare you, you woman you, to be angry at mistreatment, to pity yourself for the situation you’re in, to not be a Stepford wife!

    I also note that “longsuffering” is right up there with joy and love. That’s not creepy at all.

    • Juliana

      Well, she’s semi-quoting the verse from Galatians about the Fruits of the Spirit, albeit out of order and only part of the list, and the King James Bible does have “longsuffering” in there… but what that actually means is “patience”–that’s what my NIV Bible has–and as you say it’s definitely easy to take “longsuffering” to mean something rather less to be desired.

  • SAO

    I would argue that anger isn’t healthy, but this does nothing to address whatever issue that caused the anger, which could be a legitimate issue that should be addressed or something you should just get over.

  • chervil

    So wait, is Nancy admitting that God doesn’t take care of everything all the time? Grinding debt is still an issue, “There are always so many bills to pay and you are scrounging from here and there to pay them”. Also, she admits this lifestyle fosters anger and bitterness, and as an added bonus for participating, you get to “deny your feelings” and live a lie. Clearly, having a lot of children and living the life isn’t helping, with the debt, with the anger, with the bitterness. It sounds like she’s trying to keep women silenced and in check and focused elsewhere, like on evil feminists. No wonder they blame feminists and gays and whoever else is handy for their lot in life, because the promises they were made have failed to materialize, and they since they can’t even acknowledge their own feelings, they have to find someone else to blame.

  • http:///krwordgazer.blogspot.com Kristen Rosser

    Note to Nancy: “Deny your flesh” and “deny your feelings” are NOT the same thing. “Flesh” has a specific meaning as used by Paul, and you’re not getting it. It’s not referring to natural human desires, needs or feelings. It’s referring to the temptation to gratify yourself without regard to others. It’s THAT inclination we should, in good conscience, deny. Not our feelings.