Quoting Quiverfull: Only Concept of God?

Quoting Quiverfull: Only Concept of God? April 14, 2013

by Honour of Kings Homeschool Curriculum

We are pleased to announce Matt’s long awaited parenting book — “Your Kids Were Born That Way” — is now in the final stages of editing. It should be ready for purchase within the next few weeks. Here’s an excerpt to whet your appetite:

“As parents, we are the only concept of God our young children have. In order to prepare their hearts and minds to choose future submission to God we must first teach them submission to us. It is far better, if forced to choose between the two, to teach children nothing about spiritual matters in favor of demanding temporal obedience to parents, than to try to fill their minds with spiritual things while allowing them to live disobediently.

Children learn to respond to God the same way they respond to their parents. If they won’t obey and submit to parents there is very little chance they will obey and submit to God without some sort of serious consequence interrupting their lives.”

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QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • Was this person on acid when they wrote this? I don’t ever remember my parents as god…in fact…I remember them as being flawed.

  • saraquill

    Presenting yourself and your spouse as G-d has to be in violation of one of the 10 commandments.

  • suraiya

    they sell God short – no room for spirituality and grace that can come in so many forms and bring about a strong connection that goes so far deeper than just obeying because they have been broken and brainwashed to do so

  • Independent Thinker

    Yet, another example in the homeschooling community of someone writing curriculum with zero credentials. The act of reproduction by default does not make one in expert in history, English, or parenting. I really pity the families who think their children are actually being educated by these texts.

  • This advice don’t get it.
    First, if parents were not the only concept of God children have by default, and parents are imperfect, it is a reason to teach them spiritual concepts so their concept of God becomes more accurate. Pretending to be God is setting up a graven image to worship.
    Two, everyone probably knows what Jesus answered when asked about the most important commandment, in other words, the thing people should be most careful about obeying:
    “Love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, love others as yourself.”
    Put that in the advice above, and it will become: Teaching children to love you and God and others is more important than other spiritual teaching. The priority is not “demanding obedience”, but “enabling to understand love.”
    Teaching obedience is about outward things, but the Lord looks at the heart. And fear of punishment is really not the thing He wants to see : “1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love: but perfect love casteth out fear, because fear hath punishment;”
    If children respond to God in the same way they respond to their parents, and God want to be loved and not feared, then let the children know what it is to be loved, and to love. Work on their hearts, not external rule enforcements that get them obedient out of fear.

  • madame

    I think children naturally pick up an “image of God” from their parents. If your earthly father seems to be waiting for you to step out of line to give you a good whack, then that’s how you are going to feel about God. He’s going to be the Big Father up there with his big long stick, waiting for you to step out of line so he can punish you. If you never felt good enough for your earthly parents, you will not feel good enough for God.

    With that in mind, I’d recommend the opposite of what this man teaches. Model the love and acceptance that you believe you get from God in the way you teach them, patiently, lovingly, lifting them up. The Bible is full of accounts of God’s wrath, but if we are to believe that he is love, and that his love is inconditional, we have to model that inconditional love to our children.
    It’s hard. Much, much harder than demanding immediate obedience.

  • Andrew

    “to teach children nothing about spiritual matters in favor of demanding temporal obedience to parents, than to try to fill their minds with spiritual things while allowing them to live disobediently”

    I thought being able to teach spiritual matters, as you see them, is the whole point of home-schooling. I guess I am misunderstanding home-schooling.

  • Tori

    It is very hard to parent, without ever “snapping”, or “spanking” (I hate that term, it’s hitting, lets call it out for what it is). If you want your children to accept a being they cannot see or hear or prove exists as a worthy father figure, you had best be doing a REALLY good job of modelling that kind of behaviour. You may well not end up with kids who share your faith system, but you will still have some, as opposed to being frozen out of their lives and your grandkids too.