Quoting Quiverfull: A Guarantee?

by Johnathan Lindvall from his Bold Parenting Seminar

 Even in a case where you know you are right, are you willing to give up your freedom?…Would it be a sin against God for me to defer my liberty and give in to my father?…

            “How much do you want your children to follow in your ways?”{the Lord is said to have asked}

              “Oh Lord, I want them to follow in my ways.”

              “Then how much are you willing to give up to your father in honor to see your children honor you?…” {the Lord is said to have replied}

               If I would defer to my father…I would have a guarantee that every single one of my children would walk with the Lord and pass it on to their children

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QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • Besides the fact that children are not programmable automatons, the bible doesn’t even make a promise like this. I wonder what he proof texts to make his point?

  • He basically seems to be saying that by giving up his free will (or surrendering or deferring) to his father, he can get god to guarantee his children won’t have free will?

  • Nightshade

    Another way to blame parents for what their kids do…although in this case it’s the father being blamed, not the mother. That’s a switch, isn’t everything supposed to be some woman’s fault?

  • Saraquill

    I’m wondering that myself.

  • Madame

    I’m sure there’s a clause somewhere or another that blames the woman. If only she had been more submissive, everything would have worked out!