Quoting Quiverfull: Feminism Misunderstood by LAF?

by Ladies Against Feminism -Feminism Rejects Feminism: We’re Doing Our Best to Achieve the Impossible

Feminists are finding their legacy, unrealistic, misdirected, negligent and confusing. This article is an insider’s perspective on the realities of feminism and an interesting discussion (perpetuated by lies or shall we say redefining of the facts) on what the answer is supposed to be. Feminism’s expectations are still impossible and unrealistic either way. They’ve created a generation of confused misguided women who hopefully will realize they’ve been lied to. Once again, we have the answer to a fulfilling life. Caution: Swear words on sidebar

“When the expectation that they could “have it all” came up against reality, many of them ended up disappointed, feeling like failures or feeling like feminism had failed them.

“I think what happened was that feminism was really a revolutionary movement, and like all revolutionary movements, it wasn’t about personal satisfaction or personal success,” Spar told NPR’s Terry Gross. But “somewhere along the line … the message of feminism got watered down and misinterpreted.” It turned inward. It was drained of broader social goals—and this is what winds up driving women “nuts.”

“If we set perfect and having it all as the standard, we’re all gonna fail all the time,” she said.

So what can we do? According to Spar, the solution lies in feminists focusing less on personal fulfillment and more on societal issues — child care, pay equity, support for working moms and dads. Though Spar makes good points about feminism’s history, I think this is where she starts to go wrong…Gen X and Y women have watched Spar’s generation try — and fail — to be perfect leaders, employees, moms, wives, community members and everything else. If anything, I’d say we’re way less duped by the myth of having it all.”

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  • https://www.facebook.com/jean.hoehn/info?collection_token=1524166867%3A2327158227%3A35 Phatchick

    I’ll agree that nobody can have it all, we all need to make choices as to how we spend our time and resources. The point of feminism, IMO, has always been to give women a choice on where they put those resources, in their homes and families (it that’s what they want), in their jobs and in changing the world in large and small ways. It’s about letting each woman decide for herself where she belongs and how she can best contribute to the world, not letting someone else decide her destiny for her.

  • NeaDods

    LAF claiming to have someone “on the inside” puts me strongly in mind of the evangelicals who try to convert me by saying they were once atheists. The next words only prove that they are lying and have no grasp of my worldview… and why should I take the word of a liar for anything?

  • Nightshade

    Maybe no one can have it all, but who gets to choose which part of that ‘all’ a woman can have?

  • Lolly

    Perfect? Nobody’s perfect, perfect leader, perfect parent, who said anything about perfection? Since it’s not perfect, it’s a failure? There is no middle ground, we are expected to lose autonomy because you say failure since it’s not what you would call perfect? That’s just moving the goalpost around to suit their own predetermined conclusion.

  • Trollface McGee

    “the solution lies in feminists focusing less on personal fulfillment and more on societal issues — child care, pay equity, support for working moms and dads.”

    Um… feminists have been doing that long before the term feminism was coined. The only people I see concerned with personal fulfilment are groups like LAF who tell women that they need to stop seeking equality and instead get their personal fulfilment out of traditional gender roles.

    And feminism has never been about perfection or having it all – it is about equality and choices. Again, it is the fundies that typically have a problem seeing anything besides in terms of black and white – if it isn’t perfect, then surely we should go back to a system much less perfect because it isn’t perfect.

  • http://biblicalpersonhood.wordpress.com/ Retha Faurie

    Feminism’s message have never been: “You can have it all.” Feminism’s message have often been, when it moves away from society to “you”, the individual: You have the right to have as much of it as men do.
    I am sure only a very small minority of people think they can have it all, it is not a message of feminism.

  • http://yllommormon.blogspot.com/ aletha

    So feminism’s goals are unrealistic and impossible? I suppose attainable goals are perfect children who never disobey; being the perfect wife with no dreams, hopes, or goals of her own; bearing as many children as possible; never speaking or thinking ill of your husband-no matter how he treats you; and always putting on a happy smile, even when you’re dying inside.

    If the choice was that, or trying for equality, I know which side of the white picket fence I’d be on!

  • Madame

    Don’t forget being the perfect teacher.

  • Madame

    I didn’t understand feminism to mean that I can have it all either. I’m currently a SAHM, and I consider myself a feminist because I think that a female teacher should have the same rights, protections and pay as a male teacher (just to name a profession). I also think that no profession should be inaccesible to women, and I believe both men and women are responsible for the children they bring into the world. Yes. I’m a feminist.

  • texcee

    For me, I became a feminist when I was 12 years old, in the mid-1960′s and in my 6th grade homeroom. The space program was going full blast and I was nuts over the new territories being opened up. Our teacher, who incidentally was the Baptist preacher’s wife, had everyone say what they wanted to be when they grew up. Of course, the girls gave the standard answers — mommy, nurse, teacher. I answered that I wanted to be an astronaut. Everyone, the teacher included, laughed out loud at me. “You can’t be an astronaut,” the teacher said. “Only boys can be astronauts.” I felt humiliated, but I also resolved to be anything I damn well pleased. Did I become an astronaut? No, but I did study science, graduate from college, widen my horizons, have a fulfilling career, travel, and also marry and raise an amazing daughter who is following in my footsteps. As the old song says, “I am Woman. Here me roar.”

  • http://biblicalpersonhood.wordpress.com/ Retha Faurie

    That one goes both ways. Like the guy who told me “I was a born again Christian for the first 19 years of my life, before becoming an atheist.” He was born again at birth?

  • NeaDods

    If raised that way, it probably feels like it! I e had someone bragging that her 2-year-old came to Jesus.