Created To Need A Help Meet: Part 7 Mr. Visionary (Your Woman Should Be Glad To Put Up With Your Eccentric Ways)

by Aletha cross posted from her blog Yllom Mormonpp 84-86We are nearing the close of the Visionary man chapter. I hope you've learned a lot. This section is Michael summing up the main points from the chapter. Text is in purpleExhortation to Visionaries  *Don't let your drive drive her away. Demonstrate a soundness of judgement by first meeting the needs of the family, and then when you share your daring vision with her she will have the emotional energy to dream with you. You will then be emotionally free to actually do something out of the ordinary. Talk to others about how great she is to stand with you. A wife will put up with a good deal of nonsense if her man makes her fe … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: You Can’t Marry If You Can’t Have Sex?

by Tim Bayly of Bayly Blog - Sex Abuse in the Church: Some ClarificationsEditor's note: This posting was actually Bayly posting comments he posted on some other pastor's blog that are unapproved. It's all in regards to pedophiles and marriage in the church.  In this bit he is claiming that pedophiles should never marry because they are not capable of having normal sex with the opposite sex. But it seems to me that he's extrapolating it out to say that anyone unable to perform male/female sex adequately to his description should be denied the right to marry. That's a quite narrow requirement for marriage even if you leave off the former sexual predator crowd. … [Read more...]

Is the Trinity a Sex Orgy? Part 4 of Tim Keller on Sex

by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from her blog Under Much Grace **This September is book month at, but today, I want to discuss two books that I don't recommend purchasing.  I feel bad enough because of the necessity to purchase them myself to read them with my own eyes.** Sex and the Trinity?  (Continuing the discussion of Tim Keller's views on sex)I didn't intend to include this element of these teachings because I really don't like discussing this aspect of the topic of the Eternal Subordination of the Son Doctrine, but this element keeps surfacing.  In a way, I'm glad to see people discussing the convoluted nature of the doctrine and how bizarre it is when you have t … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Women Cannot Have Male Doctors and Be Modest?

by Steven L. Anderson from Faithful Word Baptist Church - The Lust of the EyesEditor's note: Found this gem linked to Biblical Gender Roles blog. Wonder if Anderson feels the same way now that a male doctor saved the life of his wife and youngest child. … [Read more...]

NLQ Question of the Week: Why Do Evangelical Christians Think It’s Okay To Break The Law?

This is a new series we have started running on Thursdays. Examining some of the questions involving long held Quiverfull theology and life.I'm sure by now that everyone at NLQ has seen the roiling circus coming out of Kentucky involving country clerk and fundamentalist Christian Kim Davis. Davis refused to issue marriage licenses for same sex marriages even if the highest court in the land ruled that same sex marriage was now legal in all fifty states of the union.  This has caused one crazy media frenzy before Davis was jailed for defying the orders of the court. A few days ago she was released and professional Christians/politicians Ted Cruz and Duggar supporter and Presidential … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Women Are Property?

by Biblical Gender Roles from Biblical Gender - Why Does God Allow Divorce?Editor's note: BGR true message comes out. Men own women period. Either you're owned by your father or your father has transferred ownership to your husband. Which is why he claims women cannot get a divorce from an abusive husband, because they belong to their husband the say way he might own a boat or a motorcycle or  a bar of soap. BGR thinks we are all just vassals and vessels.The reason for the difference in language is that in marriage a woman was made the property of her husband. A wife could not give her husband a bill of divorce, because she was his property, only he could give her a bill of … [Read more...]

Jack Hyles Gives Advice On How To Raise A Girl

by Bruce Gerencser cross posted from his blog The Life and Times of Bruce GerencserIn chapter 20 of How to Rear Children, Jack Hyles, former of pastor of First Baptist Church of Hammond, Indiana, gives his advice on making a lady out of girl: The women’s liberation notwithstanding most men still want someone ladylike and feminine for a wife. To be sure, all good Christian men want submissive, feminine, ladylike, and godly wives. Yet, we live in a society which wants to homogenize the sexes. The boys wear make-up and the girls wear blue jeans. The boys wear flowered shirts while the girls wear work shirts. The fad is for the boys to be feminine and the girls to be masculine. C … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: The Role of the Godly Help Meet is to Receive Chastisement?

by Biblical Gender Roles from Biblical Gender - The Heresy of Skip Moen and His Book "Guardian Angel"Editor's note: This is the long rambling post of BGR where he says women are to 'bare' children and a lot of ridiculous things about the roles of women in the lives of their husbands. He seems to be edging closer to Christian Domestic Discipline here too. What is it with people thinking that they must redefine common terms used in the church and quibble about meanings? … [Read more...]

Answering ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’ – How Do You Balance Faith And The Burlesque Of Life?

Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical, rational and the best possible solution, in other words 18 … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Deny Your Possibly Gay Son Privacy To ‘Cure’ Him?

by Scared Catholic Mom on Queerity - Scared Christian Mom Asks How To Keep Her Gay Teen PureEditor's note: The big Catholic families are sometimes the first encounter with Quiverfull for those not raised fundamentalist evangelical Quiverfull. While this woman is not promoting Quiverfull ideals she sure sounds like she's the Catholic version of Michael Pearl, trying to control the same sex attraction out of her poor confused teenager. This much control over any child is abusive! This reads like a what not to do for your LBGTQ  child primer. … [Read more...]