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Lourdes, Lifeboats and Bounded Choice: The Complicated Progress of Exiting Totalist Groups: Part 2

by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from Spiritual Sounding Board Read Part 1 first... *** Cindy Kunsman explains how Doug Phillips relegated Vision Forum acolytes to bounded choice – a dynamic only intensified for Lourdes Torres-Manteufel by alleged sex abuse. *** Note from Julie Anne:  This is Part 2 of Cindy Kunsman’s series on Bounded Choice.  In this series she is helping us to understand the process people go through when they have lived in a high-controlling religious system as was Lourdes Torres-Manteufel’s experience.  Lourdes’ and Cindy’s story can help shed light in our own experience or the experience of someone we know and love.  Having this understanding … [Read More...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Defrauding Your Spouse?

by Michael Pearl from his book 'Holy Sex' at the 80% mark on the Kindle since Michael didn't provide page counts for the electronic version. "Defraud ye not one the other...[To withhold sexual satisfaction from one's partner is to defraud]... except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency" (1 Corinthians 7:5) … [Read More...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Only Place is in ‘The Home’?

by Emily from her blog Raising Homemakers - So You Think You Should Go To Work? Maybe you know the Scriptures that clearly state that the woman’s job is to be a keeper at home, but you think to yourself…”Well…I can have a job and be a keeper at home!”  Well, if you are away from home, at a job, you cannot be keeping the home.  You simply will not be there to keep it if you are at a job. … [Read More...]

Quoting Quiverfull: A Girl’s ‘List’?

featuring Debi Pearl talking about her book Preparing To Be A Help Meet QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull honestly and thoughtfully. … [Read More...]

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Lourdes, Lifeboats, and Bounded Choice: The Complicated Process of Exiting Totalist Groups Part 1

by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from The Spiritual Sounding Board After reading the account of the Lourdes Torres-Manteufel abuse by Vision Forum founder, Doug Phillips, Cindy Kunsman reflects on her own sex abuse story. Note from Julie Anne:  I remember talking to Cindy Kunsman around the time the Lourdes Torres-Manteufel lawsuit was made public. Lourdes’ story greatly affected her in a personal way, reminding her of her own sexually abusive childhood. This sometimes happens when someone else’s story reminds us of our own painful experience. Statistics tell us that there are a lot of people who have been sexually abused. If you have been sexually abused, this may be a sensitive … [Read More...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Cling on to That Husband All the Time!

by Nancy Campbell from Above Rubies - Who Is Your Best Friend? When you have an opportunity to go out to enjoy yourself, who would you rather go with? Some girlfriends? Or your husband? We will always want to go with our best friend, won't we? In Titus 2:4 the older women are exhorted to teach the young women to "love their husbands." The Greek word used here is not agape (God's divine love which goes beyond the love of man). It is not "eros" which is sexual love. We need to experience both these in our marriage, but the one God uses in this passage is "philandros." This is a friendly, affectionate love. … [Read More...]

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Brave New Life Part 6: Never the Same, and That’s OK

by Melissa cross posted from her blog Permission To Live This post is part of a seven part series. To start with the introduction click here. We went to visit for the first time about a year after coming out, it had been almost 2 years since I had seen any of my younger siblings. It was so scary, knowing that just your existence caused so much drama makes it really nerve-wracking  to voluntarily hang out. It makes you second guess each thing you say or do, worrying that something could inadvertently offend or enrage people who have to work so hard to tolerate you. On the other hand, you just want to relax and be yourself, and not try to be something you’re not just to keep the … [Read More...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Buy Used and Save the Difference?

by the Duggar girls, Jill, Jana, Jessa and Jinger Duggar in their book "Growing Up Duggar" page 17 Very interesting in light of the preparations for Jill's recent wedding.  And since our favorite shopping style is frugality, our favorite places to shop are thrift and consignment stores. If you shop there enough (and we go fairly often!) you can find great clothes at great prices. … [Read More...]

Andrew Snelling, Ken Ham and Michael Peroutka (L-R) stand in front of Ebenezer the Allosaurus.
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The Skeleton in Doug Phillips Closet Is Now In The Creation Museum. Literally.

  by R.L. Stollar cross posted from Homeschoolers Anonymous In case you missed the news, the Creation Museum — labor of love par excellence ofKen Ham and Answers in Genesis — acquired some dinosaur bones. Those bones, belonging to 30-foot-long, 10-foot-high Ebenezer the Allosaurus, are valued at $1 million. According to Ham, Ebenezer is named after the “stone of help” that the Hebrew prophet Samuel set up to honor his God. Ebenezer was unveiled to the publicon May 23 of this year. … [Read More...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Floating on Downstream?

by Nancy Campbell of Above Rubies - Upstream or Downstream? 1 John 5:19 ESV tells us that, "The whole world lies in the power of the evil one." If this world is in the grip of the evil one, how do we live without getting pulled into its grip? How do we keep our children from its control? We've got to swim upstream. … [Read More...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Why is Anger So Scary in the Evangelical World?

by Johnathan Parnell from John Piper's blog Desiring God - That Angry Gentleman at the Restaurant That is the thing with anger, and the thing I needed to learn — perhaps we all could learn — from a scene like the one this angry gentleman put on. Unrighteous anger, no matter where it’s at, is silly. … [Read More...]

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CTBHHM: Daycare is Adopting Your Kid Out

by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love, Joy, Feminism Created To Be His Help Meet, pp. 184—185 We are still in Debi’s chapter on loving one’s children. Last week we got to the first part of the chapter that actually contained some actually good advice. This had to do with the importance of a mother working one on one with her children, and teaching them little things all through the day—what goes in soup, how to sound words out, and how to fold laundry. I really did like that Debi said a mother should work directly with an individual child even in a large family, though I felt she didn’t follow that up with helpful how-tos and risked leaving overwhelmed mothers of … [Read More...]


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