Roy Moore’s Victims Are Just as Guilty as He is (?)

Roy Moore’s Victims Are Just as Guilty as He is (?) November 20, 2017

Editor’s Note: TCP member Bruce Gerenscer has done a great job of blasting Christian support for Alabama Republican Senate nominee, Roy Moore. Talk about blaming the victim! Although the four participants in the Dennett-LaScola Study who had lived at one time in Alabama all talked about how “Christian” it was – superficial or otherwise – I had no idea how intransigent Alabamans could be about their beliefs. I still can’t get over how stupid they come across in their defense of someone that even they think is a child molester. I guess it’s just the Yankee in me.


By Bruce Gerencser

Myron Mooney is the pastor of Trinity Free Presbyterian Church in Trinity, Alabama. Free Presbyterians are the Presbyterian version of Independent Fundamentalist Baptists (IFB). Staunchly Evangelical, Calvinistic, and separatist, Free Presbyterians believe women should be silent in church and wear head coverings. Mooney recently made the news with his unwavering support of Roy Moore.

Roy Moore

When asked about his name being on the letter of support for Moore, Mooney stated:

I’m proud to have my name on that letter. I don’t put any stock in (these accusations) because of the timing.

According to Mooney, his wife said the recent coverage and outrage over Moore’s scandalous behavior with underage girls is akin to being raped:

Here’s what my wife has to say about rape right now. My wife says the state of Alabama is being raped by Washington and being raped by the country with these allegations.

According to the Decatur Daily, Mooney believes that Moore’s opponents have been working for months to orchestrate an attack against Moore. Specifically, Mooney blames the Democrats. I am always amused when Evangelicals resort to wild conspiracy theories to explain reports immoral or criminal behavior. Does Mooney really believe that there is some nefarious force behind nine women accusing Moore of creepy, criminal sexual misconduct? Imagine how many people it would take to pull off such a large-scale left-wing conspiracy. Occam’s razor applies here. The shortest answer is likely the truth; and the truth is that 30-year-old district attorney Moore had a perverse, stalker-like obsession over teenage girls; and that this obsession resulted in inappropriate sexual behavior.

According to Mooney, if the sexual misconduct claims are true, then the girls making them should be held accountable for not coming forward sooner. Ever the Fundamentalist, Mooney has a proof-text to justify his slut shaming:

If there is a betrothed virgin, and a man meets her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbor’s wife. So you shall purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:23,24)

Mooney is quoted in the Decatur Daily as saying:

She is then as guilty as the person that is said to have done the molestation The guilt is shared.

Pause for a moment and let Mooney’s abhorrent viewpoint sink in. Are you angry? Sick to your stomach? I know, I am.

Deuteronomy 22:23,24 teaches that if a woman is walking down the street in a city and a man rapes her, and she doesn’t cry out for help — meaning she must have really “wanted” it, then she should be executed along with her rapist. In other words, God says the rape victim is just as guilty as her rapist. Why? Because she didn’t scream loudly enough for someone to hear and come and rescue her.

Deuteronomy 22 is the same chapter of God’s inspired, inerrant, infallible Word, that commands:

  • Women who fail a virgin test on their wedding night shall be labeled whores and executed (vs 13-21)
  • Women who wear “men’s” clothing are abominations (vs 5)
  • If a man has sex with a woman who is not engaged and they are found out, he must pay the woman’s father fifty silver shekels and marry her (with no possibility of divorce) (vs 28,29)

Mooney should roundly be condemned for what he said, but that’s not going to happen. He quoted the Bible, and dammit, God said it, and that settles it!  I wonder, as I conclude this post, if, in the picture above, the tie, shirt, underwear, and suit Mooney is wearing is made of “mixed” cloth. The Bible also says in Deuteronomy 22:

Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woolen and linen together. (vs 11)

How dare Pastor Mooney sin against the thrice-holy God and wear mixed material clothing. Surely, his fellow Presbyterians will demand Mooney be defrocked for wearing clothing God condemns. After all, God said it, and that settles it, right? If Fundamentalists such as Mooney are going to use the Bible to justify their slut-shaming, the least they can do is obey all 635 laws in the Old Testament, and not just the ones that prop up, support, and provide cover for anti-woman views.

**Additional Editor’s Note** Here’s the opinion of a former non-believing pastor who was raised in Alabama:

“If the allegations are true, Moore should step down immediately. I have no dog in the race, as they say. I plan on writing in the Libertarian candidate at the special election. My sense is that most people are weary from the polarization in politics in general. I’m reminded of No One Left To Lie To, by Christopher Hitchens. The multiple allegations of sexual assault against Bill Clinton didn’t seem to hurt his political career. I doubt seriously it will have much effect on Moore’s career either. My guess is many people, in the privacy of the voting booth, will hold their noses and choose Moore over Jones.”

**Editor’s Question**  What do YOU think will happen in the Alabama election?


bruce gerencser 2015-002Bio: Bruce Gerencser lives in rural NW Ohio with his wife of 39 years. He and his wife have 6 grown children and 10 grandchildren. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for 25 years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. He left the ministry in 2005 and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist. He is also one of the original members of The Clergy Project, which began in 2011. He blogs at The Life and Times of Bruce Gerencser, where the above post originally appears.  It is reposted with permission.

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  • carolyntclark

    There are 3 weeks ’til election. The constant bombardment of scandalous news is so overwhelming that outrage fatigue sets.
    After a flash of fury, numbness sets in.
    It will be interesting to watch which faction will persevere in their cause by the time Dec.12th comes around.

    • Linda_LaScola

      I’m hoping a lot of people who can’t bear voting for a democrat will simply sit it out. And Democrats will make a special effort to get to the polls.

      And maybe some appalled republicans will vote for the Democrat

  • alwayspuzzled

    Take away the Tuskegee Institute and Muscle Shoals and what is left? A lot of lynchings, George (segregation forever) Wallace, and now Roy Moore. The election might be a test of whether or not any generational shift is weakening the Republican and Evangelical stranglehold on Alabama. It would be interesting to know the average age of Pastor Mooney’s congregation.

  • marbon67

    Unsubstantiated and outright false allegations. Liberals think they have a powerful weapon to go along with “Super delegates” that rig their own elections.

    • mason lane

      Super delegates, a completely different subject, and yes they suck and must be eliminated. Both parties have rottenness in their trunks and branches.

      And how do you know they allegations about Moore are unsubstantiated and outright false allegations? Have you gone to the Press (perhaps FOX TV) to vindicate Moore?

      • Jim Jones

        > they suck and must be eliminated.

        They could have prevented Trump.

  • mason lane

    Evangelical support of despicables like Trump & Moore should not come as a surprise. Evangelicals are highly predisposed to support villainous characters; their “God” is a totalitarian psychopath who has his mythical son tortured and killed, an underage teenage girl sexually assaulted and impregnated in her sleep, and the adulterer and murderer mythical King David was said to be “a man after God’s own heart.” (Evidently their God has a heart though ruthless he be in drowning almost all of his flawed creation and all animals, and slaying innocent children of a different religion)

    Evangelicals long for the day their tyrannical God will rule planet earth and punish those who refuse to worship and seig heil for all eternity, so goes the myth. With a religious mind-set based on blood sacrifice of innocents Evangelicals should always be considered politically dangerous theocrats and we should not be the least bit surprised so many Evangelicals can support Moore.

    The events of the Trump era make it so much clearer how the Christians in Germany had no problem supporting Hitler into power. Most Evangelicals would support a political or military coup by Trump IMHO where he would declare, (on Twitter) “I’ve declared martial law to save this nation, I’ve again made great, from the Godless secular forces in America. They are bad, very bad. As Supreme Commander life in America will be good, very good!”

    ( meme quote from; “Adolph Hitler, April 26, 1933, from a speech made during negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordant of 1933.”)

  • See Noevo

    When will Franken, Menendez and Conyers resign or be forced out by the Dems?

    • Jim Jones

      Right after all the Repug turd blossoms are dumped.

  • Jim Jones

    > **Editor’s Question** What do YOU think will happen in the Alabama election?

    They already chose the worst person to be the candidate. Why would that change?