Army medic “has seen Christianity, Judaism, and Islam in action…Frankly, I’ll pass.”

Mikey Weinstein, President of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, shared something with me today.

He shared a report in USA Today that  speaks about the statistical trend away from traditional religious identities. MRFF is an important – albeit religiously neutral – ally to the secular community and fierce defender of the US Constitution. But Mikey saw something that he knew I’d appreciate:

Paul Morris, an Army medic at Fort Bragg in North Carolina and veteran of six tours in the Middle East, says he has seen Christianity, Judaism and Islam in action, for better and for worse, and, frankly, he’ll pass.

Morris grew up “old-style Italian Catholic,” but says he never felt like his spiritual questions were answered. So, he says, “I just wiped the slate clean. I studied every major religion on the face of the planet. Every one had parts that made sense, but there was no one specific dogma or tenet I could really follow,” Morris says.

“So now, I call myself an agnostic — one who just doesn’t know. What I believe is that if you can just do the right thing, it works everywhere.”

I don’t know Paul Morris, but I wish I did. He’d fit in well with the rest of the non-believers in the Fort Bragg MASH group. Obviously there are plenty of interesting semantic conversations that go with ‘agnostic’ and/or ‘atheist’ labels. These conversations usually require an agreed upon definition of terms, but many of us refuse to ‘just check one box’.

We touched on that recently when an agnostic who – unlike Morris – is poorly spoken, came here and trashed the atheists at Travis Air Force Base. Well, he attempted to trash them, anyway.

The article in USA Today is a few months old, but the statistics are still very interesting:

More highlights below the fold.

Polls show that in 1991, 24% of U.S. adults hadn’t been to church in the past six months; today, it’s 37%.


That’s one of the key findings in newly released research that reveals America’s drift from clearly defined religious denominations to faiths cut to fit personal preferences.

The folks who make up God as they go are side-by-side with self-proclaimed believers who claim the Christian label but shed their ties to traditional beliefs and practices. Religion statistics expert George Barna says, with a wry hint of exaggeration, America is headed for “310 million people with 310 million religions.”

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**Edit: shortly after posting – I received a salient reply from Army Staff Sergeant Justin Miller – who like myself, does not speak on behalf of the, Army or the Dept. of Defense.**

Justin Miller: Seeing those religions in practice is also a large part of why I gave up Christianity. I was into it for awhile. I even spent vacation time in monasteries, fasted for 40 days twice a year, etc.

While I do appreciate the depth and esoteric element that monasticism-whether Christian, Muslim, Jewish, whatever-brings to big ideas, the reality of all three of those religions in the Middle East made me really consider how ridiculous all three were.

If you want a microcosm of religion at play in Iraq, get an Assyrian, Chaldean, Sunni and Shia’a translator in your office, and watch them all conspire to fuck each other over.

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  • F

    Gah. The bit right before the Morris quote:

    The bad news is you lose the capacity to make connections. Everyone is pretty much on their own,” he says. And all this rampant individualism also fosters “hostility toward organized groups — government, industry, even organized religion.”

    Today, even the godless disagree on how not to believe, says Rusty Steil of Denver.


    Steil calls himself a “live-and-let-live atheist,” as apart from the virulently anti-religious variety such as Christopher Hitchens or Richard Dawkins, or “those who actively promote disbelief.”

  • Justin Griffith

    @F #2

    Honestly I cringed there too. But I’ve learned quickly that there is room for all perspectives (firebrand vs accommodation)in the movement. What really gets annoying is when that debate spills outside of the in-group friendly disagreement context.

    Firebrands like myself are also capable of checking the ‘interfaith’ box from time to time (see my re-enlistment with a full-bird colonel CHAPLAIN who was also breaking ground as he did not say “so help me god” as per my request )

    I think it’s important that people organize, and if they disagree with a particular strategy they can then at least be in a position to influence future direction. But don’t take that fight to the media as if to say “THIS IS WHY WE SUCK COMPARED TO GOD PEOPLE… IM ONE OF THE GOOD ONES.”

    Fuck that.

  • Dudenheimer

    Didn’t know that American Atheists Military Existed.

    That’s FANTASTIC! Good Luck and Stand your ground….

  • There are some attention-grabbing closing dates on this article but I don’t know if I see all of them heart to heart. There is some validity but I’ll take hold opinion till I look into it further. Good article , thanks and we wish more! Added to FeedBurner as properly