Reinstating Gay Oppression in the Military?!?

Last year…

I’m sure we all remember the outcry from the liberty hounds when the National Defense Authorization Act last year authorized indefinite detention over U.S. citizens as long as they are accused of ‘terrorism’ and can be held without trial until the end of the War on Terror (this is currently being challenged in court).

This year…

Well this year members of Congress are injecting a hateful bigoted religious agenda into the NDAA. The current bill up for vote holds two provisions within it that authorize any and all military service members (including the clergy) to verbally abuse and assault (not physically) gay and lesbian service members. Any offender of this abuse will be protected by law under these mandates as long as they claim “religious beliefs” as the reasoning for doing so.

“Conscience protections” is the phrase utilized in these egregious amendments. No one is forcing any member of any faith in the military to abandon their belief system, unless of course they are a minority belief system. Somehow the religutards claim they are being oppressed because others aren’t being forced to live by their religious standards. Here let me show you a graph to express their outrage:

Damn! I’m starting to feel sorry for them already…

Now I’m not trying to make a political endorsement, per se.  When the religious extremists push their agenda into policy, law, and candidacy then the blurring of the line between the separation of church and state directly affects me.

Some time ago…

I can’t recall any time throughout history when mainstream Christianity in America has actually been under assault and oppressed by any other religious group . It’s a wonderful conspiracy theory that the fundamentalists have constructed in order to play the “victim role” in the press and media. I can recall quite a few cases where the Christian majority have oppressed those who don’t fall in line with their archaic beliefs.

  • The Ku Klux Klan operated as a white male protestant movement that was dedicated to suppressing blacks, Jews, and Catholics through humiliation, intimidation (cross burnings), assault, and murder. Two-thirds of the national Klan lecturers were Protestant ministers.
  • The institution of slavery was justified by Biblical passages and spouted by prominent citizens of the South to fortify their antiquated belief structure.
  • The fundamentalist Christians also fought interracial marriage through the use of the Bible. What scriptures did they use to justify this? I don’t know. I couldn’t find any. I did find this quote by a fundamentalist Christian from 1961:

    “…moral or social equality between the different races…does not in fact exist, and never can. The God of nature made it otherwise, and no human law can produce it, and no human tribunal can enforce it. There are gradations and classes throughout the universe. From the tallest archangel in Heaven, down to the meanest reptile on earth, moral and social inequalities exist, and must continue to exist throughout all eternity.”

    Eternity must have ended in 1967 when interracial marriage was made legal. 

  • The fundamentalists have always attempted to usurp the rights of gays as well. Back in the 1930’s undercover cops used to try to get homosexual propositions in order to imprison them. It was illegal to be a homosexual thanks to religious legislature.——>which leads us to one of the many fights of today.

Back to the Present…

As I stated above the newest FISCAL budget (NDAA) has been brought up for the fiscal year 2013. The two provisions placed in there by fundamentalists extremists authorize any and all members of the US Military to harass, harangue, and discriminate against gay servicemembers without fear of reprisal.

Although this is very detrimental towards the cause of equality the most alarming part is that it what was written specifically for the chaplains. Now most people know they offer religious services but they are also trained and required to act as counselors towards all servicemembers within their command. What most people don’t realize is that Chaplains are NOT required to ‘give Jewish services’ etc. They simply have to pass along a phone number to a local rabbi to anybody who ‘dares’ ask for any practice outside of the chaplain’s own narrow spiritual/religious denomination.

I’m sure that my gay and lesbian friends and peers will feel absolutely ecstatic speaking to their ‘counselor’ who is legally authorized to discriminate against them at his own behest.

What a benevolent god…

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  • What the F?

    I can’t :facepalm: too long, though. This is just absurdity that needs to be corrected (read:deleted)

  • Paul Loebe

    It has already passed in one house of Congress, btw.

  • emc2

    That section uses so many weasel words that I’m not really sure what it actually says. It does say that you can’t do anything that violates the UCMJ. For example, someone can’t refuse the direct order of a female superior because of a religious belief that women should not be in charge of men. Don’t get me wrong, I find it disturbing that it is there and I see potential for abuse. The next section needs no explanation…


    A military installation or other property owned or rented by, or otherwise under the jurisdiction or control of, the Department of Defense may not be used to officiate, solemnize, or perform a marriage or marriage-like ceremony involving anything other than the union of one man with one woman.

  • weasel words in military regulations – get service members in more trouble than wikipedia standards

  • Amusingly, the chief public argument by the evangelical community against the repeal of DADT was that repeal would be “disruptive.” Glad to know that passing regulation after regulation that establishes gay SMs as second-class citizens isn’t.

    For reference, I would be interested to see how many gay SMs are out there verses how many bigoted religious chaplains.

  • Paul Loebe

    Yeah, it’s absolutely disgusting. The wording is vague enough to give free reign to discriminate. It’s not like the military isn’t doing this in other areas. Just look at the number of female rape victims that get kicked out of the military after they report it.

  • StevoR

    “Conscience protections” is the phrase utilized in these egregious amendments.

    Isn’t one’s conscience supposed to be the small inner voice that urges one to do good unto others not evil?

    Aren’t conscientious objectors traditionally supposed to be behaving ethcially and rejecting violence?

    Isn’t this sort of homophobic bigorty enabling crap best described as just unconscienable?

  • David Hart

    Are there some brave soldiers willing to set up a Church of Fabulous, which worships a decidedly heterophobic god who mandates anti-straight oppression, and whose followers can give it right back to anyone who abuses them and tries to use this as a shield?

  • How dare you gay men and women fight and die for our country and do so with integrity and honesty?!

  • Tsu Dho Nimh

    “provisions within it that authorize any and all military service members (including the clergy) to verbally abuse and assault (not physically) gay and lesbian service members. Any offender of this abuse will be protected by law under these mandates as long as they claim “religious beliefs” as the reasoning for doing so.”

    Can you post the provision texts? I’m having trouble finding them.

    Can these provisions be used to harangue homophobic harassers? If I have a strongly held belief that homophobia is wrong … can I put it into words?

  • Steve

    If there is anything that undermines “unit cohesion” and “moral” (you know those useless buzzwords they go on and on about), it’s having some members of unit be harassed by others and not being able to do anything about it.

    Also, banning same-sex marriages on base actually violates the religious freedom of chaplains who want to perform them.


    “Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together.”

    God really must hate poly-cotton blends. There’s another where he hates on crop rotation (planting two crops side by side). Take it literally, and God’s all up on the fashion and some fucked up agriculture. Take it metaphorically, and God hates miscegenation.

  • Here’s an article with more details.

  • tippy

    Tx republican primary ballot prop 3:

    “Government should be prohibited from restricting the content of public prayer.”

    I couldn’t figure out what this language referred to, but perhaps it is about the military chaplain issue.

  • FormerlyNavy

    How absolutely fucked up is this? Gah. So glad I no longer have to put up with this sort of shit…the way I see it, if you want to be gay then be fucking gay, and if you want to be gay and get married to your gay partner, then do so. If you want to do those AND be in the service, then no haughty fucking religitard ought to be able to bitch. The government and the religitards are a plague on this country.

  • Brandi

    I’m trying to find the provisions as well. Which amendments are they? I’ve been scouring the amendments here and my eyes are starting to cross.

  • Brandi

    Found it! Section 536!

    Section 536—Protection of Rights of Conscience of Members of the

    Armed Forces and Chaplains of Such Members

    This section would require the Armed Forces to accommodate the

    moral principles and religious beliefs of service members concerning

    appropriate and inappropriate expression of human sexuality

    and that such beliefs may not be used as a basis for any adverse

    personnel actions. This section would establish the responsibility

    of chaplains to provide for the spiritual needs of their faith

    group and comply with the tenets of their faith while facilitating

    the religious needs of all service members. This section would also

    prohibit any member of the Armed Forces from (1) requiring a

    chaplain to perform any duty or religious ceremony that is contrary

    to the tenets of the chaplain’s conscience, moral principles, religious

    beliefs or the tenets of the chaplain’s religious faith, or (2)

    discriminating or taking any adverse personnel action against a

    chaplain because of a refusal to comply with a direction to perform

    a duty or religious ceremony that is contrary to the tenets of the

    chaplain’s conscience, moral principles, religious beliefs or the tenets

    of the chaplain’s religious faith.

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