ROBERT WRIGHT: No. And I think, you know, in a way we shouldn't. I mean I think if there is you know, something out there called moral truth. And we should continue to try to relate to it in a way that brings us closer to it. And it–
BILL MOYERS: I don't understand what you mean. Out there?
ROBERT WRIGHT: Well. Well–
BILL MOYERS: What did–
ROBERT WRIGHT: Did I say that?
BILL MOYERS: Yeah, you've said it several times. I mean–
ROBERT WRIGHT: I should be careful.
BILL MOYERS: –if you don't–
ROBERT WRIGHT: Because I don't– what do I mean. I don't–I mean what. Transcendent is a very tricky word…. I don't know exactly what I mean by transcendent. I may mean beyond our comprehension. I may mean you know, I may mean prior to the creation of the universe or something. I don't know.