C of E school's acceptance of transgender boy sparks row

C of E school's acceptance of transgender boy sparks row September 11, 2017

Nigel and Sally Rowe, above, are Christians. Christians who find trangenderism so icky that they’ve removed their six-year-old boy from a Church of England school on the Isle of Wight which is allowing another male pupil to wear a dress whenever he pleases.
Two years ago, according to the BBC, they removed their eldest son from the same school in a separate row about a different child with gender identity issues.
The Rowes say the suggestion that gender is fluid conflicts with their Christian beliefs and they are seeking a legal challenge against the school’s actions.
Enter the Christian Legal Centre, which is supporting Mr and Mrs Rowe. It said the couple were being accused of “transphobic behaviour” because of their:

Refusal to acknowledge a transgender person’s true gender.

Mrs Rowe told the BBC’s Victoria Derbyshire programme that when they spoke with the school, which is not being identified, they were told:

If a child wants to do that then we just have to accept it.

Her husband added:

I am shocked by the suggestion, especially from a church school, that just because we question the notion that a six-year-old boy can really become a girl, we are transphobic.

Jeff Williams, director of education for the Diocese of Portsmouth, said:

Church of England schools are inclusive environments where pupils learn to respect diversity of all kinds. Like any other state school, our schools comply with the legal requirements of the Equalities Act 2010.
Among other things, this requires schools to accept the wishes of children and their families with regard to gender identity. It would be unlawful for any of our schools to do otherwise.

Mr and Mrs Rowe say the school’s handling of the situation did not show proper regard for the possible long-term emotional and psychological effects on young children seeking to change gender, or for the confusion and concern caused to other people by the suggestion that boys are not always boys, and girls are not always girls.
In this Metro report, the couple referred to transgenderism as “species dysphoria”, and asked if the school would also allow pupils “to dress as animals”. The Metro said people reacted strongly to the Rowes’ idiocy, using social media to brand them as “utter morons” and “fucking melts”.
LGBT campaigner Jane Fae, who is transgender, said the couple had misjudged the issue, as children with gender issues needed sympathy to help prevent them being bullied.
She said:

I have a child who took a lot of bullying on my behalf and that bullying was exactly the same: it was parents saying ‘we have a right to an opinion’ and they told their children their opinion, and having told their children their opinion, their children thought it was open season on bullying my son.

Hat tip: Agent Cormac and BarrieJohn

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  • barriejohn

    It’s obviously the parents who are “confused and unhappy”, because this acceptance of the reality of life challenges their simplistic view of the things. When I read about their “love and compassion” for transgender people I very nearly puked. They keep on about a person’s “real gender” and the children being “forced” to “pretend that a boy is not a boy”, which clearly betrays their fundamentalist, bigoted outlook, which THEY are forcing upon their own children! If these are now home-schooled, what sort of people will they turn out to be? That could amount to child abuse in itself. And as for pretending to be an animal, our neighbours’ youngest boy makes me laugh when he goes to school dressed in his dinosaur pyjamas; his school-friends must be REALLY confused by that!

  • L.Long

    And what is wrong with wearing dresses?? I am a straight hetro and I have 4 dress, 2 skirts and 3 frilly blouses. Read history you bigoted aholes! Men have worn that stuff for ages and the buyBull BS about not wearing women’s clothes has nothing to do with dresses! Religious bigots are SSSOOOoooo bleeding stoopid!!! Just as there is nothing wrong with being homo- or trans-sexual!!! Read your book o’BS bigotry!

  • Broga

    A male Pope wears dresses and so do male priests. As if a transgender child hasn’t enough to endure without this pair of smug, bigoted, holier than thou Christians adding to it.

  • Stonyground

    Hopefully by making utter fools of themselves they are helping to facilitate Christianity’s long slow slide into complete irrelevance.

  • Broga

    He seems to have launched on to what I expect is a typical long boring rant and his wife has fallen asleep. Probably, a not unusual response in living with him.

  • Daz

    “the suggestion that boys are not always boys, and girls are not always girls”

    Galatians 3:28.

  • Angela_K

    I fail to see how a boy wearing a dress or even an “Action Man” or Noddy outfit is a threat to other children. Children tend to be a bit more tolerant because they haven’t had prejudices instilled in to them by bigoted parents. This pair of religious bellends just want to force their preposterous beliefs on every one else. I’m fairly familiar with the bible and know it says some debatable things about homosexuality, but don’t seem to remember anything about transsexualism.

  • Stephen Mynett

    Caption competition: “And you should see the size of his boobs.”

  • barriejohn

    Angela: It’s implied.
    “The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.” (Deut. 22:5 KJV)
    Christians like to make a lot of “confusion”. It’s what the Devil brings about, apparently, whereas God is “the god of order”!

  • Brian Jordan

    “Transgender”at six? That’s ridiculous (unless the child has some medical intersex conditon). Never mind the bible, feel the chromosomes.

  • AgentCormac

    For ‘Enter the Christian Legal Centre, which is supporting Mr and Mrs Rowe’, read: ‘Enter the Christian Legal Centre, which is using Mr and Mrs Rowe as puppets in the vain, hapless belief that they might, just might, one day actually win some kind of victory’.
    Yet again, however, they won’t as, helpfully, the CofE has already pointed out that it is illegal for the school to disrespect diversity.
    Which does beg the obvious question: why don’t those massive legal brains at the Christian Legal Centre actually understand the law?
    Perhaps they should just come clean and rebrand as the Christian Bullshit Centre.

  • Neal

    When I see the pic above all I can think of is “Leave it to Beaver!”. Gee Wally, they let a transgender kid in school.
    Hey dad, where’s mom? Upstairs playing with Beaver!

  • StephenJP

    A few random comments:
    1. None of the reports I have seen say that the child in question is actually transgender. Young children think they want to be all sorts of characters. When I was about 4 I identified with an anthropomorphised girl rabbit called Ruby in a kids’ reading book. Go with the flow and let the boy work it out in due course.
    2. This goes a bit wider: gender is not identical to sex. There are a number of militant LGBT campaigners who would like to maintain that it is. The whole issue is more complex (and too much so to go into in a post like this, especially at this time of night).
    3. According to The Times, the parents are suing the school for, among other things,”not respecting their right to bring up their children with biblical values”. Could someone remind me how many of the disciples wore trousers…?

  • Vanity Unfair

    Would they complain should the boy in question decide to wear a kilt?
    Would they complain should any of the girls in the class wear jeans or dungarees?
    At age six this is probably not about sex but just a child wanting to wear particular clothes because he likes the look of them.

  • 1859

    I agree….

  • Dan

    Those that say religion is a harmless bearer of security and support to those who need a bit of security and support are clearly demonstrated to be wrong as evidenced by these two lying, specious, intolerant, stupefied halfwit horrors. They are the ones damaging their children by filling their receptive minds with bigotry, division and hate.
    Top marks though to BBC R4 Today for putting them on the flagship prime time current affairs programme in order that the horrid pair could publicly proclaim the bigotry and nastiness religion breeds. And an gold star for timing the article adjacent to TFTD. Only one complaint … I would have enjoyed it more if Mr Humphrys had been allowed to do the interview.

  • H3r3tic
  • barriejohn

    @H3r3tic: That’s brilliant!
    Some boys feel like girls, and some girls feel like boys – that’s how the school explained it to me, and to be honest, that was all I needed. Eleven words and it made perfect sense to me. I hoped it would be the same for my mum and dad, but I was wrong.

  • ray metcalfe

    I expect they are terrified that there child will come home from school and say can I have a dress to as I like the one that **** wears. Probably lead to instant prayers panic attack and praying to be freed from the demons

  • andym

    Their chief worry in an interview this morning was again how confusing it was for their child. This from people who teach that the Bible is a reliable and consistent guide about how to live….Now there’s cause for confusion.
    Not that confusion is in itself a bad thing. Growing up is about sorting out things while accepting that some issues will never make sense-for their child more than most with them as parents.

  • Cali Ron

    Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
    It’s a mixed up, muddled up world
    Except for Lola…