Don't do this outside a church!

Don't do this outside a church! October 15, 2017

St Paul’s chapel, a popular wedding venue in the Greek island of Rhodes, will no longer allow foreign couple to get married there because of the lewd antics of a British couple.
According to the Telegraph, newlyweds Carly and Matthew Lunn posted a simulated fellatio photograph on Facebook, where it was quickly went viral. This prompted a bishop on the island to declare the church out of bounds to foreigners.
Community leader Giorgos Eleftheriou, who performed the wedding ceremony, said:

We are Greek and we cherish our traditions and the sanctity of our religious sites. We cannot allow this disgusting behaviour to prevail.

He added:

Shame on those two for the damage they have done. Would they have done the same in their homeland; in front of a British chapel, a Jewish temple, a Muslim mosque?
I have hundreds of soon-to-be brides from Britain and all over the world calling me today in tears because of this decision. It’s a huge damper on our society here. We are one of the most famous wedding destinations in the world and we are booked solid through to 2021.

After the photograph spread through the British press, it was shown on Greek television and in their newspapers.
A local resident said:

Even though it was a simulated act they felt it defiled the church. The situation was really that the local priest and church and the mayor had no choice but to say that there will be no further weddings – 99 per cent of the weddings are British.
People are outraged and talking about suing the couple involved. They want the couple to publicly apologise to Rhodes and particularly the church.

Mrs Lunn said when the photograph first spread:

It was something we said we’d do for a joke. We expected a lot of laughs and jokes from people, but didn’t expect it to be as popular as it was. People back in England were commenting on it, the whole thing went mad.

The Lunns have been described as “low lifes” and “scum” in various reports.
According to this report, hundreds of British couples vented their fury at the  couple. Suzanne Sparkles, 33, from Chorley in Lancashire, planned to get married to fiance Steve Arnold, 38, at St Paul’s chapel in Rhodes next May –  at a cost of around £40,000. The couple, who have been together for three-and-a-half years, booked their big day on the Greek Isle two years ago
Miss Sparkles said she and her guests are anxiously waiting for the ban to be overturned and pleaded with the authorities to not tar everyone with the same brush. She added:

Our wedding planner has told us that the mayor is going to make a final decision in seven to 10 days. It’s such an anxious wait for us because I don’t want to have to get married on a beach. We can’t change the location because we have spent so much money on it already.

Account manager Natalie Farrell, 32, from Coventry is also due to get married to Paul Veasey, at St Paul’s in Rhodes. She said:

Altogether the wedding going to cost around £10,000. I’ve given in to the fact that the ban is going to remain in place. I am trying to get my wedding planner to sort out another venue. When I first saw the picture I just thought it was so trashy and disrespectful – especially in a Catholic country.

Erm … for the record, Greece is not a Catholic country. Religion in Greece, according to Wikipedia:

Is dominated by the Greek Orthodox Church, which is within the larger communion of the Eastern Orthodox Church. It represented 90 oercent of the total population in 2015 and is constitutionally recognised as the “prevailing religion” of Greece.

Tow truck driver Matthew Lunn, 27, and 34-year-old shop worker Carly, from Birmingham, said they posed for the oicture to show their unique sense of humour. But his grandfather has failed to the see the funny side, saying “I’m disgusted.”
Hat tip: BarrieJohn

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  • AgentCormac

    I’m with the granddad on this one. No matter where it was done – outside a church, a barn, a supermarket, you name it – this wasn’t some humorous prank, it was vulgar and offensive.

  • AdamM

    Sure, it was vulgar, but who cares? Personally, I abhor anyone who would spend 40k GBP on a stupid wedding, or 10k, or 1k, and anyone who wants married in a church, or finances a religious institution, such as the catholic church is quite frankly, retarded, and it hurts my sensibilities far more than some couple having a bad sense of humor and pretending to go down on each other in front of a silly church.

  • Broga

    It’s not funny. It’s crass. What was their thinking on this? Assuming any thinking took place. Did they think they would be seen as daring? They deserve each other.

  • barriejohn

    Typical of the British at large nowadays, it would seem, but why make everyone suffer? Massive over-reaction, as one has come to expect from the religious. In fact, everyone acting according to stereotype!

  • tonye

    I agree with the bishop – typical immature brits abroad spoiling it for others.

  • Angela_K

    A right couple of pratts pulling a tacky stunt like that and for blowing £40k on vanity piece wedding.

  • Stephen Mynett

    Idiots all round, a total overreaction by the bishop but a pathetically stupid and vulgar stunt by the couple, as others have mentioned, it was a 40K wedding so I guess if you are going to spend that much on a party you must have more money than sense anyway.
    Looking at the weddings of people I have known quite well, it seems the ones that last are usually those who have a simple ceremony and do after, the more money spent usually indicates the shorter the life of the marriage.

  • Gaurav Tyagi

    I find the picture funny and humorous, church, mosque or temple can get pissed, who gives a damn to these self proclaimed custodians of societal virtues 🙂

  • John the Drunkard

    Well, at least they didn’t airbrush the cross. Indeed, the church isn’t even visible in the photograph shown.
    It is just a bit odd that a church as fiercely supremacist as the Greek Orthodox would be just fine with heretics using their chapel for marriages that their own clergy wouldn’t perform?
    Was the bride a virgin? How many divorced foreigners have had weddings there without objection?
    It do seem as if the entire British nation has degenerated into a pack of drunken louts.

  • Brummie

    Would it get the same reaction in front of a Registry Office? I found it funny and harmless.

  • gert

    OT Sorry
    This will be a real threat to humanity if some religiots teach robots religion. Just think … paedroids, jihadroids, persedroids
    Can we teach robots ethics? – BBC News

  • Bill Spivins

    If you spend some time with those abused by priests as children you lose your sense of outrage at what consenting adults do around a church. If you could see photographs of what they describe you would be even more revolted and rightly so. I urge you all to see this for what it truly is, a poorly behaving pair of customers of a “non for profit” business.

  • Marcus

    Disgraceful! See what happens when heterosexuals are allowed to marry.

  • barriejohn

    Marcus: Well said!

  • RichaedW

    A lot of fuss about nothing. Sure their behaviour was lacking in decorum, but so what? There is no rule that we must all behave decorously.
    And I am very unlikely to be moved by the moral judgments of a bunch of god-botherers

  • L.Long

    Well this is so offensive to the church!! BFD!!!!! This is awful but covering up preacher boy rapers is OK!!! This is a picture of two people giving joy (simulated) but preaching about killing gays every sunday is OK!!! Tell the whole bunch of whinney assed moroons to grow UP!!! This is not nearly as bad as spending 30K to sign a contract. Oh! Right…. WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!!!! They could care less, it all about the parents who lie to themselves and there kids that is the problem.

  • barriejohn

    It’s funny how the religious get into such a lather over sex. Of course, it’s easy for celibate priests to pretend that it doesn’t exist, but the rest of us realize that if it weren’t for lust – one of the seven “deadly sins” – we wouldn’t be here today. A lot of this prurience is just a product of “Pauline” teachings again, cobbled together from various philosophies that were current when the New Testament was being written (irrespective of whether Paul actually did any of the writing). Christians may pretend that “lust” isn’t part of normal marital relationships, but they’re dead wrong about that – and probably know it in their hearts. I’m not sure why they’re so scared of it, though; maybe because it’s something that’s beyond their control.

  • AgentCormac

    @Gaurav Tyagi
    Self-proclaimed custodians of societal virtues the church may well like to be. But surely, a couple on their wedding day engaging in simulated (really?) oral sex in front of the place where they were married and then posting a photo of it online for the whole world to see isn’t funny. It’s crass, lewd and, quite frankly, shameful. Why am I so bothered about this particular act of senseless vulgarity? Well, I just keep asking myself ‘How would I feel if they’d done that outside the registry office where my octogenarian parents live?’ Quite frankly, I’d defend my father’s right to never grow tired of slapping the pair of them. Much as I detest religion in all its forms, this is actually about basic human decency and being respectful of other people, whether they are religious or not. Something this pair of idiots seem to know little if nothing about. They aren’t humorous, they’re just crude, offensive idiots.

  • tonye

    Now I could be wrong on this one, but, reference the 7 deadly sins, am I right in thinking that they were never actually mentioned in the bible as we now interpret it?
    I think it was the 3rd century writers (Cassian and Ponticus) who came up with the concept.
    Religion, yet again, making things up – whatever next!

  • L.Long

    There is no such thing as the 7 deadly sins. Sins are actions against gawd’s commands! Gawd is a fucking myth! So his commands are imaginary. And what i so deadly about lust?

  • 1859

    @barriejohn: Every living person on the planet is the result of sex. We are all someone’s orgasm. Something the religious find hard to swallow (all puns intended!).

  • barriejohn

    @tonye: You’re right, and Wikipedia has an interesting article explaining the origin of the idea and its Biblical antecedents. I would also add:
    “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.” (I John 2:15-17 KJV)
    This idea that “the things of the world” have nothing to do with God is bonkers, and is more Oriental than Jewish in its origin. Christians love classifications, but in one place they will talk about rivalry between “the world, the flesh and the devil” (fitting neatly with their “body, soul and spirit”), yet elsewhere it’s a great conflict (from Eastern religions again) between light and darkness, spiritual and physical, evil and good. There’s just no consistency in their theology (what a surprise!).

  • Brian Jordan

    It’s a put-up job, fake indignation. Thousands of pounds per couple are at stake so they’ll never ban it. If you read it carefully, the bishop says he’s banning it but the mayor will make the final decision. The hoteliers will continue to thrive and the church will continue to tithe.
    No publicity is bad publicity.

  • barriejohn

    Brian Jordan: I think you’re right. In fact, I’d put money on it that they will “give the British visitors one more chance”!

  • Barry Duke

    FYI this report has been expunged from the Freethinker’s Facebook page, as well well as my personal page.
    Now a request: If you haven’t already “liked” the FT page, please do so. Over the last few months it’s been under attack from fundalunatics who are consistently “unliking” it.

  • Stephen Mynett

    This is a common tactic, probably started by islamists trying to shut down pages run by apostates. Unfortunately Zuckerberg is a spineless shite when it comes to dealing with fundies. Actually he is a spineless shite period.
    Unfortunately cannot help with liking the page as I refuse to use any “social” media sites.

  • Angela_K

    @Barry Duke. That seems to be the way with religious types, they do not wish to engage in reasonable debate nor hear contrary opinion and awkward facts, so try and shut us down; imagine the furore if we started shutting down the thousand of religious web-sites and FB pages. Perhaps they are terrified of hearing something that could cause them to doubt their absurd beliefs.

  • andym

    “This is a common tactic, probably started by islamists trying to shut down pages run by apostates. Unfortunately Zuckerberg is a spineless shite when it comes to dealing with fundies. Actually he is a spineless shite period.
    Unfortunately cannot help with liking the page as I refuse to use any “social” media sites.”
    This. Zuckerberg does little about Islamist incitements to violence in the west, but is more than happy to discuss identifying “blasphemers” with the Pakistan government. Nothing of course, to do with money, or that he knows western governments will not dare shut his site down, unlike Pakistan’s.
    “Money-grubbing,spineless shite ” is how I’d describe Zuckerberg.

  • Stephen Mynett

    Of course, there is the fact he no longer identifies as atheist but has spoken favourably about religions, seems the little shit bag has his eyes set on a political career sometime. He may not be as bad as Trump he is certainly as loathsome.

  • Vanity Unfair

    Perhaps the seven deadly sins are overly criticised but by comparison the seven deadly (sorry, cardinal) virtues do seem a lot less fun.
    Chastity, Temperance, Charity, Diligence, Forgiveness, Kindness, and Humility should, perhaps, be treated in the Buddhist fashion of everything in moderation.
    I always had a soft spot for Cardinal Syn, if only for the leg-pulling he must have endured.