Greek priests express horror over new transgender law

Greek priests express horror over new transgender law October 14, 2017

Thanks to a law approved by the Greek parliament, people can now legally change their gender on all official documents – and Metropolitan Nicholas of Phthiotis, above, centre, is furious.
According to this report, he thundered:

Do you see how far these Greek Orthodox deputies have sunk? … They have brought blasphemy upon the human body. They voted for a law by which every person at least 15 years old can send a written declaration to change his gender.

How will this impact negatively on Greek society?

Today they tell us that God did not create man and woman, driving the idea from the minds of our children. Every man can easily become a woman, and every woman a man. Do you know why they are doing this? They want to ensure, at any cost, that homosexuals will be able to adopt children.

How he arrived at that conclusion is anyone’s guess.
The imbecile added:

It is madness for any reasonable person, and a satanic deed from the point of view of God’s law. But some people are trying to make our state a state of sin.

For his turn, Metropolitan Kosmas of Aetolia indignantly stated in an open letter to deputies of the Greek parliament:

You are promoting a bill which denies the Triune God and Creator and casts blasphemy upon Him. This new law is unnatural, it encroaches upon the psychosomatic identity of the person, fosters depravity, and aims to thwart a person on his path to sanctification and deification. The bones of our saints and heroes are trembling!

Archbishop Ieronymos also criticized House Speaker Nikos Voutsi, who called for a separation of church and state.

Have you considered what the role of the Church is, not only in Europe but the entire world? … The [Church] has more to offer than all [the country’s] embassies.

None of these god-addled windbags impressed Alexis Tsipras, above, Greece’s first openly atheist Prime Minister, who told MP’s before the vote:

No tradition, no religion, no perception of family requires citizens to remain on the margins or be pushed into institutional and social oblivion.

The legislation, he said, was aimed squarely at ending the marginalisation of people whose perceived gender identity did not correspond with that assigned at birth.

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  • Schwadevivre

    Cross dressing is not just for priests

  • AgentCormac

    ‘Have you considered what the role of the Church is, not only in Europe but the entire world? … The [Church] has more to offer than all [the country’s] embassies.’
    And there’s the nub of it – what they really fear isn’t people changing their gender, but their beloved church’s potential loss of position, relevance and influence.

  • andym

    “Do you see how far these Greek Orthodox deputies have sunk? ”
    That’s revealing, too. To him, deputies are answerable to his church, not their electorate.

  • gert

    Ahh yes … the high priests will do anything to hang onto their powerful political influence and use it to inflict upon everyone their bigotries and stupidities. I got this reply once from the UK Government Cabimet Office.
    Its not difficult to pick out the specious double talk. Just read it a couple of times. It makes me all the more determined to push back against all religions at every opportunity.
    “Changes to the composition of the House of Lords, including Church of England Bishops, are important but, given the very full programme of other constitutional changes, are not a priority at present.
    The Government has no plans to remove the Church of England Bishops from the House of Lords.
    The Government considers that the relationship between the Church and the State in England is an important part of the constitutional framework that has evolved over centuries. As senior members of the established Church of England, 26 bishops are appointed to the House of Lords. Bishops provide an important independent voice and spiritual insight into the work of the Upper House and while they make no claims to direct representation, they seek to be a voice for all people of faiths. The House of Lords also contains a number of other senior faith representatives.
    People have a right to conduct their lives in accordance with their faith insofar as this does not unlawfully interfere with the rights of others and it is important to strike a fair balance between religious freedom of expression and the rights of, for example, lesbian, gay and bisexual people not to be discriminated against. Therefore, the law protects the rights of both these groups. The Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act 2013, which received Royal Assent on 17 July 2013, extends marriage to same sex couples in England and Wales, while protecting and promoting religious freedom.”
    Cabinet Office

  • gert

    Overdressed ponces. Do they have no sense of shame or have even a fleeting moment of realisation that to ordinary people they are a laughing stock and look absolutely ridiculous.
    Strip away the finery, dress them in paupers clothes and then see how people in the street would treat them. They would be treated with indifference and would carry no weight as street preachers. They have nothing to contribute to the modern world. They just want to retard and keep everything in their control … and to dress up in frankly dubious atire that would look hilariously over the top even in an episode of Black Adder.

  • Stephen Mynett

    Gert, I think the first three paragraphs of the reply you had from the Cabinet Office must be programmed to a hot key as it seems identical to a response I had years ago about another issue a few years back, only the last paragraph of the pathetic excuse is different. They obviously have to do a bit of work to try to make it look relevant and look as though they made an effort to reply.
    The creep Welby and his ponces may not be running around with AK 47s and Semtex on a mass murder spree but in all other respects they are as odious as the mad mullahs.

  • AgentCormac

    @ gert
    Interesting response indeed. Basically what it’s saying is minority groups such as gays and lesbians can make do with being allowed to get married (and be bloody thankful for it), while minority groups like the CofE can enjoy very real political influence. Hardly what you might call equality.

  • Broga

    “This new law is unnatural, it encroaches upon the psychosomatic identity of the person, fosters depravity, and aims to thwart a person on his path to sanctification and deification. The bones of our saints and heroes are trembling!”
    This is good stuff: “it encroaches on the psychosomatic identity of the person.” Anybody know what this means? And we are headed for “deification.” And the “trembling bones” is brilliant. Any evidence for any of this?

  • 1859

    One religion to rule them all
    One religion to find them
    One religion to bring them all
    And in the darkness bind them.

  • ConservativeAtheist

    There are two genders, male and female.
    If you have a penis you are male, if you have a vagina you are female. Anything else is in your head, just like religion.

  • 1859

    I wish I had Photoshop talents – I would make the three luminaries at the top of this page into a musical trio. The golden guy in the middle would be playing a sax, the other two would be playing guitar and bass guitar. The name of such a group defeats me? Any ideas anyone?

  • Stephen Mynett

    1859, oddly enough when this was first posted the picture made me think of the old comedy team the Three Stooges, plus the Stooges are also Iggy pop’s band.

  • barriejohn

    ConservativeAtheist: It’s so much more complicated than that. You seem to be aping these religiots, who insist that everything is simple and straightforward because their imaginary god “planned it” that way, and that any anomalies must be “against his will”.

  • barriejohn

    @1859: I immediately thought of Demis Roussos, strangely enough!

  • gedediah

    ConservativeAtheist: just to add to barriejohn’s point, so what if it is in their heads? Why shouldn’t people be allowed to live a life that feels right to them if it harms no one else? There’s nothing wrong with it.

  • 1859

    @Conservative Atheist: Genitalia do not determine gender. Ever heard of those born with androgynous genitals? Gender is in the head not between the legs.