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  • Ryan G

    Technically this comic is incorrect, due to the fact that there is no such thing as hell according to the mormons. While there is a “spirit prison” where all bad people and non-believers will go after they die, they stay there only until they learn of the gospel, than these spirits then enter heaven. So everyone will eventually get to [the appropriate "level" of] heaven anyway.

    But I do get what the comic is trying to say.

    • Anonymous-Sam

      Really? I have to give them a point for that, then. The existence of a Hell (specifically eternal damnation) strikes out any religion in my book. Under no conceivable circumstances is eternity too short a time for redemption.

      • FO

        I thought just the same. oO

      • AnAtheistsPhilosophy

        At the very least he seems a much more level headed and forgiving gOd than any others that I’m aware of.

        • Ian

          And if you are very good, he give you your own universe!

          • http://themikewrites.blogspot.com JohnMWhite

            I thought it was just a planet?

            • Len

              Inflation.

  • Elemenope

    The Nestorians will be pissed.

  • Darth Cynic

    Actualy if I recall right – have close Mormon family members you see – whilst the Mormons don’t have a fire ‘n’ brimstone hell like other Xian outfits, they still have a hell of sorts. Satan and the host of angels that initially rebelled against god shall be cast into outer darkness for eternity, as will any subsequent spirit person that stands against or disbelieves in god despite the evidence of his existence. Everyone else gets split across three levels of heaven – aka the celestial kingdom – with the most righteous of Mormons living with god himself on a glorified Earth as gods in their own right. Those in levels above can visit those below but never the other way. Dunno if you can ever better your station or whether you’re stuck at a level for the rest of eternity.

    • Ryan G

      Time to get even more technical (I was a mormon). When *everyone* dies, they go to the “spirit world”. This “spirit world” is divided into tow: “spirit prison” and “spirit paradise”. Mormons go to “spirit paradise” and stay there until they are judged, then they will be admitted to one of three levels of heaven.

      Like I said before, bad people and non-believers stay in the “spirit prison” until they learn of the “true gospel”, and become a believer. They are then admitted to “spirit paradise”, and await judgement with everyone else, except the best they can ever hope for is the lowest level of heaven (telestial).

      There is a second “hell”, or “outer darkness”, but this is reserved for only the baddest of the bad. We are talking scorched earth mofos who, even after eternity, are beyond redemption. They go to the “outer darkness”. Though this will happen very, very rarely. Because of the rarity of this happening, the mormons do not usually refer to it much.

      So let me make it clear that (according to the mormons) the vast majority non-believers will go to the “spirit prison”, unless you have killed to the likes of Hitler, then you will go to the “outer darkness”.

      • Ryan G

        into tow = into two

      • UrsaMinor

        The spirit prison sounds like an inefficient system. If the One True Right and Only Theology isn’t obvious to you when you’re alive on Earth, then you’re sent to another place where the One True Right and Only Theology may not be obvious to you either.

        I mean, think about it. If the correct choice were obvious on Earth, the vast majority of people would make it the first time around. If the correct choice is no more obvious in the spirit prison than it is here, then either your Earthly life or the spirit prison is redundant. If the correct choice is more obvious in the spirit prison, that makes life on Earth a pretty nasty and pointless joke being played on the whole human race.

        Another broken theology. It sounds like an attempt to rescue the concept of an all-loving, all-merciful god by giving everybody an eternity to reach salvation, but it’s still broken.

        • Kodie

          If the One True Right and Only Theology isn’t obvious to you when you’re alive on Earth, then you’re sent to another place where the One True Right and Only Theology may not be obvious to you either.

          I think that’s what the posthumous baptisms are for. Just in case you’re stuck, once the people on earth check you off a list, your mind changes and frees you from spirit prison.

          If the correct choice is more obvious in the spirit prison, that makes life on Earth a pretty nasty and pointless joke being played on the whole human race.

          It is anyway, isn’t it?

          Another broken theology. It sounds like an attempt to rescue the concept of an all-loving, all-merciful god by giving everybody an eternity to reach salvation, but it’s still broken.

          That’s what I thought about Mormons last time. Hell – that sounds really violent and nasty, that can’t be right. Let’s pretend we know the mind of god a lot better than anyone else and make it so nobody has to go. The pressure’s off then, right? I kind of have to wonder about the thought process behind sending missionaries all over the place to bother people door-to-door and out on the street. If it’s all the same to you people, I’d like to not be a Mormon all my life and you can save me when I’m dead, ok?

          • http://fugodeus.com Nox

            Mormonism has its own series of plotholes, but many of the doctrines of mormonism are specifically meant to get around some of the more well known problems in christianity. It had been noted prior to 1830 that an all loving god who premeditated to send most humans into eternal torture, might seem less than all loving. This point is still used by atheists and other critics of christianity today (I’ve even seen it used by christians to argue against the existence of hell). The mormon afterlife concept seems designed specifically to nullify this objection.

            From a marketing perspective, it’s kind of ingenious. There’s still a special reward promised to the in group, and a punishment promised to the out group. The carrot/stick mechanic which is the basis of most proposed afterlife systems, is still in full play. Just without that fiery bit that seems to put people off.

            Want to go to the special bonus heaven and be a god of your own planet? You’ll need to end this life as a mormon in good standing with all the proper divine stamps on your passport.

            Worried about your lutheran friend that died without joining the LDS church? You needn’t worry, it’s not like they’re gonna be on fire or anything. They just go to the sh*tty heaven.

  • Sunny Day

    Satan and the host of angels that initially rebelled against god shall be cast into outer darkness for eternity, as will any subsequent spirit person that stands against or disbelieves in god despite the evidence of his existence.

    Shall be cast? You mean god hasn’t done it yet?
    Lazy bastard god just what are we paying him for?

  • http://theotherweirdo.wordpress.com The Other Weirdo

    I saw the title of this post, and all I could think of, before seeing the actual comic, was WILLIAM SHATNER!!!!!!!!


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