Beck’s Gulch

Everybody’s getting into the planned communities act. We’ve seen the Citadel, where America’s 2nd Amendment fanatics will go to live in peace with their guns. Now Glenn Beck in getting into the act, with his proposed city: Independence, USA. From The Blaze:

Glenn unveils his most ambitious and visionary dream: Independence

While Independence is very much a dream at this point, the proposed city-theme park hybrid would bring several of Glenn’s seemingly disconnected projects into one place. Media, live events, small business stores, educational projects, charity, entertainment, news, information, and technology R&D – all of these things would have a home in Independence. With the rest of the country and the world going away from the values of freedom, responsibility and truth, Independence would be a place built on the very foundation of those principles. A retreat from the world where entrepreneurs, artists, and creators could come to put their ideas to work. A place for families to bring their children to be inspired.

Independence will be more than just a theme park. Some folks will have the right to live within the city, making it a planned community in the basic sense. Via Right Wing Watch:

On his program last night, Beck revealed that his intention to “go Galt” is quite literal, unveiling grandiose plans to create an entirely self-sustaining community called Independence Park that will provide its own food and energy, produce television and film content, host research and development, serve as a marketplace for products and ideas, while also housing a theme park and serving as a residential community.

At the center – in the middle of the lake that is itself larger than all of Disney Land – Beck (with the help of David Barton) will create a massive “national archive”/learning center where people can send their children to be “deprogrammed” and elected officials can come to learn “the truth.”

Beck spent about twenty meandering minutes explaining his dream. Right Wing Watch has the videos if you’re masochistic enough. Apparently the current price tag is $2 billion, and my guess is that it will Beck’s dream will fade as the money fails to roll in.

  • DR

    They should build it, and then they should shut the door. Fully self-sufficient means no trade with the outside world, no communications. Even the Amish are not self-sufficient: they trade with the “English” community.

    If they do this, truly going “Galt”, I give it six months. Six months after it opens, a third of the population will be dead, another third will be on the death bed, and the last third will be banging the door demanding to be let out.

  • Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort


    • Troutbane

      I just got the image of Glen Beck peering out from a Big Daddy suit.

      • Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort

        I wish I had GIMP at work… I would totally shop Beck’s head in a Big Daddy suit XD

  • Kevin S.

    So a lot of the most unpleasant people in America are planning to start their own closed communities where they can interact only with each other and the rest of us don’t have to put up with their crap? Sounds like a win-win to me.

    • kessy_athena

      I agree. It also has the added benefit of demonstrating just how whacky their ideas are in a very concrete way.

      • FO

        It will never happen.
        They will blame every failure of theirs on someone else.

        • kessy_athena

          Oh, I don’t mean demonstrating it to the true believers themselves, I mean demonstrating it to the large number center right sane people who go along with the crazies because they don’t really see them for what they are. I don’t think there are enough true believers to have any significant impact on society without their help (and votes).

    • SophieUK

      Agreed – so how do we donate to this project??

  • Bob Jase

    Amazing how all these theocratic neocons want to found the next Jonestown – because that turned out so well.

  • bruce wright

    Can’t they just “bootstrap” the money? You know. Using inginuity and gumption and work-ethic?

  • The Vicar

    The usual rule continues to hold: anyone who threatens to “go Galt” contributes nothing of value to the world, would not be missed, and would probably only cause improvements through their absence. Haven’t seen a single exception yet.

  • The Other Weirdo

    What the hell does “go Galt” mean?

    • Yoav

      It’s a reference to John Galt, a character in America’s no 2 most overrated book, Atlas shrugged, who convinces all the true innovators to move into a secret, self sufficient, valley while the rest of the country whither without their genius to support all the lazy moochers sucking at the government tit. For some unexplained reason Glenn Beck think that he’s one of these indispensable supermen and that society will collapse without him around.

      • The Other Weirdo

        So, it’s a Galgafrinchan Ark B, but on a smaller scale?

  • The Other Weirdo

    The comments on that site where the quote is from are FANTASTIC.



  • Noelle

    Communes. Not just for hippies anymore.

    I feel cheated. Most if my K-12 years were in public school. Why wasn’t I programmed? Did I miss it with all those moves my family did? Ugh, almost as disappointing as not having any close friends from early childhood.

  • Keulan

    This sounds like a great idea. Let the crazy right wingnuts go found their own isolated communities while the rest of us work to make the country a better place. Sadly, I doubt most of these idiots would follow through with their plans to “go Galt.” They’re bluffing, because they think society would actually miss them if they did leave.

  • vasaroti

    Don’t forget the “seasteads” :

    “Instead of arguing about politics, seasteading will give people the freedom to demonstrate their ideas in practice. Seasteads will be laboratories for experimenting with new innovative governments.” Unwritten subtext: No taxes.

    • Custador


    • UrsaMinor
      • kessy_athena

        Aren’t there a bunch of self proclaimed micro-nations of various descriptions? In any case, I don’t think it’s entirely a bad idea. Studying society scientifically is a bit like trying to modify a jet engine while you’re in flight. If people want to volunteer to live in their own petri dishes, I’ve got no problem with that. We might even learn something useful.

        • UrsaMinor

          I agree. As long as they don’t endanger anybody else, I say let them try whatever they want. Especially if they promise to take notes.

    • Yoav

      Just last weekend I tried to get a true believer to give me an explanation as to how these will mange to function for the long term and how they can deal with the fact that humans can be relied on to act in their short term interest even when they know it will harm the society they live in. I’m still waiting on an answer that can’t be summed as, ommm, magic.

      • Sunny Day

        Pack a lunch.