But she's so extreeeeeeeeeme

Remember the documentary Jesus Camp?  What were we told by a few accommodating atheists and by liberal Christians?  It was that this lady is an extreme case, and we shouldn’t pay her too much attention.

This lady?

Fischer maintains a full travel schedule, having trained directors for KIMI in Mexico, Australia, Kenya and India in addition to the U.S., and having curriculum materials translated into more than a dozen languages.

“We teach people how to work with kids in the church, so kids are interested and engaged and will remain active,” she said.

You don’t get a world-wide ministry without a great deal of financial support from others.  And how many nations should she taint before we’re allowed to say that what she’s doing is dangerous and should rightly be criticized.

If you ask me, that time was back before the documentary came out.

If you’re not convinced, listen to her description of Jesus Camp.

“People are seeing two different movies,” she said. “Those who are not of our religious persuasion look at it and see child abuse and brainwashing. But through the eyes of the charismatic Christians, you see hope, life and vision for children that’s exciting.”

When your religion is indistinguishable from child abuse and brainwashing (except for those who have gone through the child abuse and brainwashing) and you can see it as ‘hope, life, and vision’, something is seriously wrong with you and your religion.  You’re also not teaching anybody a damned thing.

Here is the plain truth: this lady is a monster (and so are those like her), her tactics are tantamount to abuse, and her ideas about the operation of the universe are garbage that a raccoon wouldn’t eat.  This is the message that should be delivered to the rest of the world without remorse or pause.

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • Gordon

    Maybe she was a straw woman and we should realise that nobody actually holds these unsophisticated beliefs….

    did I say “realise”? I meant to say “pretend”

  • Brandon

    When she goes on her bullshitty rant about our different opinions based on differing interpretations, she could really just as well say “Look, you’d agree with me and see it my way if you would just agree with me and see it my way.” God damn, I wish when people said sentances that could be boiled down to that, they would look thoughtfully up and to the right, stroke their chin a few moments, and then apologize for their intellectual fuck-upery and walk away.

  • http://www.swoopsfromsnowyowl.blogspot.com snowyowl

    We all have these people in our lives. We just have to realize that ultimately, we have to make up our own minds and what they have to say is just opinion. And, like belly buttons and ass holes . . . we all have one.

  • Carrie

    Oh Geeze!! I have seen the documentary on this lady and she is crazy. It is brain wash and I wouldn’t send my children to any of that.

  • Beaux

    “You’re also not teaching anybody a damned thing.”

    CORRECTION: She’s teaching me how to hate human beings even more.

  • Nick Johnson

    Some accommodating atheists are also saying we shouldn’t worry about New Apostolic Reformation folks like Rick Perry and Michelle Bachman. Yeah, lets not worry about people that are constantly on the news, in politics for the purpose of influencing political leanings to favor church, and would rather wipe their ass with the constitution than truly uphold what it says. The extremists push their ideas down the throats of the weak and that is the very reason we should be worried about them.


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