No Free Passes for Bullshit!

Our local paper here in Bumblefuck, Arkansas, like any other paper, prints opinion columns.  Here is one that is fairly representative of the common fare.

Unmatched freedoms

John Brummett’s column about holiday greetings and Christmas again brings up what I believe to be his real agenda, which is the liberal left’s war on Christians and their attempt to change this nation into a secular heathen country much like those in western Europe.

Even though, in my opinion, Brummett and Barack Obama do not believe we are a Christian nation, the fact is we were founded as a Christian nation based on biblical principles but with freedom no other country has—including freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.

Those who want to say “Happy Holidays.” that is their protected right, but don’t rob the rest of us of celebrating the most joyous day of the year.

Remember, every time a bell rings an angel gets his wings.

RICK BRUNNER

Like any other paper, our local paper allows for rebuttals.  My father wrote another one.

RICK BRUNNER says, “….the fact is we were founded as a Christian nation based on biblical principles….”.

This isn’t a “fact” at all. And Brunner calling it one doesn’t make it one. The only biblical principles this nation was founded on are the same principles the bible holds in common with every other society on the planet, such as thou shalt not murder. I defy Brunner or anyone else to state a specific list of these exclusively biblical principles our country was founded upon. It certainly wasn’t the first several of the ten commandments such as no other gods, no graven images, no blasphemy, keeping the Sabbath. Where are these biblical principles in our founding documents? Here is a “fact” for him: in light of these commandments, our nation was obviously and decidedly NOT founded on biblical principles!

Not only is Brunner’s claim not a fact, it is absolute nonsense!

He also says, “….with freedom no other country has—including freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.”

First, the Constitution says neither “freedom of religion” nor “freedom from religion”. Second, you cannot have freedom of religion without including the possibility of freedom from religion. The idea that you can is a delusional semantic game.

He also says, “Those who want to say “Happy Holidays.” that is their protected right, but don’t rob the rest of us of celebrating the most joyous day of the year.”

Mr. Brunner, who is stopping you from celebrating Christmas and how are they doing that? Someone wishing you “Happy Holidays” because they celebrate New Years also and can count to two doesn’t inhibit you in any fashion from celebrating. I’m afraid what you want is recognition and obeisance for your preferred religion, and when everyone doesn’t pony up for you, you have a little tantrum like….well, this one.

RICK BRUNNER says, “….the fact is we were founded as a Christian nation….”.

What an insult to our founding fathers!  After months of argument, deliberation, and crafting the Constitution, the document that created this alleged “Christian nation”, they accidently forgot to mention God, Jesus, Yahweh, Jehovah, or anything else AT ALL Christian?!?

That is a pretty major OOPS!!, isn’t it?  “Oh, Gee, we founded a Christian nation but somehow didn’t put anything about Christianity into the document that formed the nation.  How ever could we have made this oversight?”

Anyone who believes we were “founded as a Christian nation” is someone who is willing to lie not only others, but also to himself. Anyone that delusional is borderline scary.

I would love it if every time someone opened their mouth publicly to spread this kind of nonsense if someone unafraid of societal penalties clouded up and rained on them like this.  No free passes for bullshit!

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • Pteryxx

    …I should mention that as soon as I saw “My dad wrote…” I squee’d and jumped down here to post before actually reading. Because I know it’s going to be awesome. >_>

    Not that JT’s writing isn’t great, too, just not as metal.

  • http://www.madjacks.biz sparky_ca

    Your dad is full of awesome.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ziztur Christina

    John,

    I am officially adopting you as my surrogate father, whether you like it or not.

    Do you prefer Dad or Father?

  • Mutsumi

    Your dad is awesome.

  • GJames

    Most excellent dad.

  • wunelle

    Three cheers for your dad! That’s an awesome rebuttal to some serious weapons-grade twaddle.

  • Brownian

    Not that JT’s writing isn’t great, too, just not as metal.

    His dad is pretty metal.

    (My dad was more like Rick Brunner.)

  • unbound

    Awesome response by your dad!

    Getting more than a little tired about the whole “Happy Holidays” being a taboo phrase. We used “Merry Christmas and Happy New Year” and “Happy Holidays” interchangeable back in the 80s (when I was working as a newspaper carrier and in restaurants in the midwest)…and no one ever raised a fuss back then. I’m sure it was used long before then as well.

  • http://the-heretics-haven.blogspot.com/ Ben Crockett

    I like your dad.

  • ‘Tis Himself, OM.

    The thing that annoys me most about The War On Christmas™* is the Christian bullies trying to force everyone else to observe Christmas the way the bullies want.

    *A wholly owned subsidiary of Fox News.

  • http://eternalbookshelf.wordpress.com Ani Sharmin

    War on Christmas + Insulting other countries that are supposed to be our allies + Claiming we are a Christian Nation + Claiming that people being different or acting differently from him is an attack on Christians + Bonus Content About How Angels Get Their Wings … all in one short article.

    Why am I not surprised anymore?

    And, as others have said, I got really excited when I saw you were posting something written by your dad. I love his responses to people.

    • teh_faust

      I don’t feel at all insulted by “heathen and secular” even if that was his intention.
      To bad western Europe isn’t as secular as the author seems to think it is.

  • Anonymous

    Your dad is my new hero. I rhombus may get lots of adoptive heathen children out of this. Are you ready for more siblings JT?

    • Nikki

      and why my phone decided that “think you dad will get” equaled rhombus, I have no idea. And it decided that I don’t have a name too. Time for an upgrade in my finger to phone interface.

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com WMDKitty

    Your dad is made of WIN and AWESOME.

  • Jim

    According to article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli signed into law by a founding father we are not a christian nation…. perhaps fact checking would be called for

  • Quincyme

    Wow. Don’t mess with the Pops. Incidentally, didn’t the Charlie Brown cartoon Christmas specials have their carol singers singing “Happy Holidays” back in the 70′s? No one made a fuss then either.

    Go JT’s dad.

  • StevoR

    Go your Dad! Great rebuttal – nicely done.

    This reminds me of this post by Phil Plait on the Bad Astronomy blog :

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/07/we-are-not-a-christian-nation/

    Plus this one :

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/06/08/are-the-ten-commandments-really-the-basis-for-our-laws/

    too. Which also do apretty good job of destroying that Xn nation notion.

    Hop its okay to link it here netiquette~wise – my apologies & please let me know if not.

  • Ryan Jung

    Your dad needs a blog or at least a guest spot here.

  • einstienbc

    I think this is a bit of a generalization in that most people are probably ignorant about the circumstances of the actual founding of the U.S.

    In my very limited experience, once you start to grill people like this on important things like facts, they tend to sort of shrivel up and start nodding with a blank stare on their face. One particular anecdote involves someone I know who has been railing against “Obamacare”, but could not tell me that the actual name of the law was the Affordable Care Act, much less the provisions of the law that are supposedly unconstitutional. At that point, they went back to idle grumblings of “government too big”, and that was that.

    What I guess I’m trying to say is, don’t overestimate your opponent’s actual knowledge or ideological loyalty, but don’t underestimate their ability to suddenly stop caring once they find out how little they actually know on the subject.

    But I digress.


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