Because the bible says so

Some people are just bewildered at how anybody can oppose the love of two human beings on the basis of their gender.  I always have the same response: ask them.  You may get a few shitty arguments making pretensions to a secular reason, but if you pry, you’ll always wind up at the real reason.

Of course, sometimes they’ll come right out with it as Kenneth Hutcherson just did on CNN.com.

Why do I stand so strong in support of traditional marriage? Because I am a pastor of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I am a shepherd that is supposed to lead, feed and protect the flock. Anything the bible says is good for society, I stand on it and I will not compromise on it. What the bible says is good for society has always proven to be good. Anything the bible says is wrong for society has always proven to be wrong.  There have never been any winners in a scenario where society went against what God said would be good.

Straight from the horse’s mouth.  Homosexuals are damaging to society!  He won’t compromise!  And rather than feeling ashamed for being close-minded or a bigot, this guy considers himself as a shepherd, a leader.  Can anything but faith make people so pretentious while simultaneously making them so malicious?

And anything that god says is good for society has always been proven good?  One can only be curious then why this noble shepherd isn’t mowing down Wal-Mart workers for showing up on the sabbath or slaughtering gay people instead of just making their lives miserable.  Do these people even listen to what they’re saying?

Here’s some more about what god wants for marriage.  Pay attention, shepherd.

Now do I think God brings judgment on a society that encourages homosexuality? I do. And since I am a pastor and God has commanded me to love everyone, I will do what it takes to love them. That does not mean I will accept that they stay the way they are. Unrepentant sin destroys you and will kill you. So if I believe the word of God, that He will bring judgment on a people, then I would be a very bad shepherd not to warn those people.

Nobody gives a shit if you “warn” them.  Fill your boots.  What we do give a shit about are deluded people like Hutcherson pushing for laws that dictate how others must live because of the silly things they believe.

It takes a mind mangled by Christ to make people’s lives shitty and say you’re doing what it takes to love them.  If that’s what love is to you, what is hate?

God said in the Book of Romans that the sin of homosexuality is going against your own self. It is unnatural; nothing is natural about homosexuality.

Who the hell is this guy to dictate what’s against anyone else’s self?  If I tell him I prefer sausage on pizza is he going to say, “No, I’m sorry, but you prefer mushrooms”?

Our most prestigious batteries of medical minds say homosexuality is an innate preference. This is from the American Psychological Association in response to the question of whether or not homosexuality is optional:

No, human beings cannot choose to be either gay or straight. For most people, sexual orientation emerges in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.

All credible medical bodies are in concert with the APA on this subject. In order to part ways from them, any sensible person must have a good reason to deny the consensus of the experts. What is it?

Oh, pfft, what am I saying?  Shepherd Hutcherson has a bunch of random scribblings from well over 2,000 years ago from nomads who didn’t know enough to separate the feces from their food.  What use does he have of modern experts?

Homosexuality should not be accepted as just another way of life. Indeed, we have gone way past that in our culture and in every aspect, God has stood against this.

You’re confusing god with a bunch of bible-waggling homophobes, shepherd.  Yaweh has stood against gays the same way Allah has stood against skyscrapers.  The problem is that god standing against something looks indistinguishable from deluded humans meddling in the lives of others with terrible consequences.

Every community and country that has allowed this sin to be normalized has suffered. Going against God’s Word is not good for society. Many pastors have had to spend time and money defending themselves against religious discrimination.

Yeah, discrimination sure sucks, doesn’t it?  Having to spend time and money defending yourself against discrimination sucks too.  I wonder what his feelings are on prop 8…

The normalization of sin in society results in other negative consequences such as the deterioration of the health of marriages and the increase in out-of-wedlock births.

Oh, I’m sorry.  Survey says that the highest divorce rate in America by religion belongs to evangelical Christians.

The Bible was proven correct again when Massachusetts passed a same sex marriage law. Catholic Services of Boston shut down because it didn’t want to allow same sex couples to adopt children. The state said you will allow same sex couples to adopt or we will not support you. Because of the pressure, they shut down their adoption program. How many innocent children were negatively affected?

What if they had closed down because the state had mandated that they must allow black couples to adopt?  Is it the state’s fault that so many orphans were displaced?  Of course not!  It was the fault of the bigots who would rather see children displaced than abdicating the bible’s hatred.

I can’t even finish this article.  It’s just wrong and inconsiderate on so many levels all while calling it love.  Why?

Because the bible says so.

  • Richard

    Gotta notice how they mingle love with hate in their speeches, preaching doom if they don’t get their way. It’s just the pitiful wailing of an immature homophobic jackass. Not normally one for name-calling, but they really are awful people.

    • Tinker Bell

      Kind of like the Christophobic atheists.

  • Mr.Kosta

    Gah, sometimes I wish all those religiofuckers decide that their god has commanded them to go die in a fire.

    • skepticallydenpa

      Ca-bot/Haha! The truth comes out! Atheist suggests burning all religious people alive. I have some news for you atheists: It’s not going to work!/Ca-bot

      Between Ca-bot and Tinkerbell here recently, there has been no shortage of stupidity in the comments.

  • fastlane

    I suppose the good shepherd (sheepfucker) is all for re-instating slavery, against wearing mixed fiber clothing, etc. etc. ya know, because the bible says so.

  • Art Vandelay

    Awful on so many levels. When you think about it, anybody that refers to themselves a shepherd shouldn’t be trusted. The question is, why are so many people so willing to be called sheep?

  • Rory

    See, you can tell Christians are a persecuted underclass by the way their hateful drivel ends up on CNN. It’s all part of the liberal media conspiracy to destroy religion and make us get same sex marriages and abortions.

  • anteprepro

    . Catholic Services of Boston shut down because it didn’t want to allow same sex couples to adopt children. The state said you will allow same sex couples to adopt or we will not support you. Because of the pressure, they shut down their adoption program. How many innocent children were negatively affected?

    Group X provides a service that benefits society.
    Group Y is given a right they had previously been denied and now qualify for that service.
    Group X stops providing that service that benefits society so that they don’t need to help Group Y.
    This action hurts several other groups.
    But Group Y is the REAL bad guy.

    Gotta love religious “logic”. The kicker is that, even though the arguments against gay marriage are bad, the arguments against gay adoption ARE EVEN WORSE. The arguments rely on completely denying good evidence, leaping to conclusions based on only slightly related evidence, there’s no “Biblical basis” for it, and it always results in pouring on a far greater amount of obvious bigotry than is apparent in the more casual “one man one woman” rhetoric about marriage.

  • eric

    The problem is, you forgot to read the footnote. The actual text reads something like this:

    “Anything* the bible says is good for society, I stand on it and I will not compromise on it.”

    *Except for commandments 1 through 5. I compromise the heck out of those every time I support the US Constitution’s first amendment. And commandment 9 and 10; my capitalist ideology practically runs on covetousness. But on 6 through 8…no compromise!

  • NotAProphet

    Yeah, the whole not selling your daughters into slavery, as is advocated in the Bible, worked out real horribly for society didn’t it!? Likewise the bible tells us that women who are raped should be stoned to death for not calling out for help; it was a dark day for society when we stopped doing THAT, amirite!?

  • Kevin

    You know, the whole “out-of-wedlock” baby argument is getting pretty freaking tired. As if that’s some sort of horrible mark that will stain a child forever and ever.

    It’s a different world, pastor. There’s absolutely zero benefit to being born of married parents, and zero drawback to being born otherwise. No kidding, I have a lot of friends and acquaintances. Some rich, some poor, some good people, a few assholes. I don’t know the marriage status of any of their parents. Not one of them. It doesn’t matter to me. It doesn’t matter to their employers. It doesn’t matter to their own loved ones. Maybe a hundred-plus years ago in Victorian England, this sort of thing mattered (because of inheritance laws), but not any more.

    Nobody cares whether your father and mother were married. Nobody except pinhead preachers whose wallets are thinned by not getting to perform a “ceremony” that authorizes consensual fucking.

    Get this quick, pastor. Consenting adults can fuck whoever they want, whenever they want, however they want. And you can’t do a thing about it.

    • http://sciencenotes.wordpress.com/ Markita Lynda–Happy Darwin’s Birthday!

      And that happy result is because of the brave work of people who got the status “bastard” behind a privacy wall and not on every birth certificate, so that discrimination became impractical.

  • LT

    JT, you say: “It takes a mind mangled by Christ to make people’s lives shitty and say you’re doing what it takes to love them.”

    That would require that Christ exists. It is Christianity, in the form practiced by this “shepherd”, that mangles the mind this way. No actions by likely fictional characters are required.

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com WMDKitty

    “Anything the bible says is good for society, I stand on it and I will not compromise on it. What the bible says is good for society has always proven to be good. Anything the bible says is wrong for society has always proven to be wrong. There have never been any winners in a scenario where society went against what God said would be good.”

    One word: SLAVERY

    Bible says: “Slavery GOOD.”

    Society says: “No.”

    Does Mr. Hutcherson want to reconsider?

  • Mark

    I’ve never heard of this guy before, but what you’ve quoted him saying here is right on the money.

  • telson

    Nowadays, it is going on conversations about homosexuality; some are against it and some on behalf of it. The right answer we can find from the word of God (the Bible).

    The Lord Jesus is the Messiah, Redeemer from sins and the Saviour. Jesus’ must fulfilled the whole law of God and believed all what the Old Testament taught, that He could be the Saviour. He did fulfill and believe all the law. In the Old Testament were commandments, which teach that homosexuality is a sin. Because the Lord Jesus had to believe all commandments of the Old Testament, so He also believed that homosexuality is a sin. The Bible teaches that homosexuality was a sin in the order of the Old Covenant and is valid in the order of the New Covenant. Like this way Jesus also believed that homosexuality is a sin, and He also condemned homosexuality by this way.

    For the sake of sodomites’ abomination acts, God destroyed Sodom as Ezekiel 16:49,50 shows for us. Ezekiel uses 16:50 Hebrew word towebah, which is the same Hebrew word in Lev 18:22 (and Lev 20:13) that describes homosexuality as abomination. It is very clear that in Ezekiel 16:50, abomination means homosexuality acts as the reason for destroying of Sodom. Sodomites pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness and hardened hearts towards poor and needy were sins, but destruction came for the sake of homosexuality, and the New Testament confirms this:

    Jude1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

    Apostle Paul wrote very clearly that homosexuality (men having sex with other men; women having sex with other women) is a sin. Ro 1:27 is word error, which is in Greek plane, which means error, to deceive, deceit, one led astray from the right way, error which shows itself in action, a wrong mode of acting. In this place, the Bible in the New Testament shows very clearly that same-gender sex is a sin and aberration from the right way. Apostle Paul taught very clearly that homosexuality is unnatural sin.

    Many scientists believe that homosexuality is congenital, a matter and orientation that can’t be changed as heterosexual. Paradoxical is that many scientists don’t believe in God of the Bible, and they proclaim that God of the Bible is not existed. Nevertheless, God of the Bible is capable of change homosexuals individuals to be as heterosexuals.

    Arsenos means male and koiten means bed. Lev 18:22 and 20:13 teach that a man cannot lie (sexual act) with another man as he lies with a woman. The origin of the word arsenokoites means homosexual activity and homosexual. Lev 18:22 and 20:13 prove very clearly that arsenos koitenmeans homosexuality sex, because the Jews scribes translated words’ arsenos koiten to describe men who have sex with another men (homosexuality), which is a sin and against the will of God. Apostle Paul didn’t make up the word arsenokoites, but it was already as the concept in the Old Testament, where it meant homosexuality.

    It is very clear that the words’ arsenos koiten meant homosexuality (man who had sex with another man) to Jews of the Old Covenant era. In the same way arsenokoites meant homosexuality (man who had sex with another man) to Jesus’ disciples in the New Covenant era.

    Jewish philosopher Philo lived in the same time as Jesus Christ and Philo has said that arsenokoites meant shrine prostitute (male temple prostitute), and not homosexual. Some people have made from this a conclusion that the word arsenokoites meant a male temple prostitute. Philo’s interpretation was totally wrong, because the Bible proves this undisputedly and shows that Philo erred.

    Lev 18:22 and Lev 20:13 doesn’t use temple prostitute word, but words in which is denied that a man can’t lie sexually with another man. Always when the Bible speaks for temple prostitutes, so the Bible uses words gedeshah and gadesh. If Lev 18:22 and Lev 20:13 told for temple prostitutes, so verses would mention them, but there isn’t, because in those verses, the Bible forbids homosexuality. It is very clear and undisputable in the light of the testimony of the Bible, that arsenokoites means homosexuality.

    According to words of the Lord Jesus, Jesus’ disciples can judge righteous judgement. If somebody is stealing, living in adultery or is lying, so we have the right to say sin as a sin. According to the Bible, homosexuality is a sin and so Jesus’ disciples have the right to say what the Bible teaches. Jesus’ disciple has a right to say that living in sins lead people to eternal damnation. Jesus’ disciple doesn’t judge to damnation, but tells that God shall judge sin maker to hell.

    God loves also gay-people, but not sinful act of homosexuality, and therefore, God calls gay-people repentance and receives salvation by believing in the Lord Jesus. In other words, God loves sinners, but not sins. The gospel and its changing power is meant also for gay-people, because the Lord Jesus can set you free you from your sins.

    I don’t condemn homosexuals, but love them by the love of God. The love of God also holds on from the truth, and therefore, I must say that homosexuality is a sin, it is not condemning, but telling the truth. God has authority to judge, not a man. God judges in His word homosexuality as a sin. I can tell about judgements that what God does, and I don’t condemn, but tell who judge.

    I don’t support discrimination of homosexuals, because they are valuable as my neighbors. However, homosexuality is a sin. It is possible to integrate from homosexuality and get rid of it. The Lord Jesus can save and give freedom to you. I recommend for you to read the Bible, because there God teaches for natural sexuality and salvation by believing in the Lord Jesus.

    Reference: http://koti.phnet.fi/petripaavola/homosexual.html

    • Savant

      There are so many bare-faced assertions in your comment that I don’t think you’ll find any traction here. If you want to make a statement like “Paradoxical is that many scientists don’t believe in God of the Bible,” or “The Lord Jesus is the Messiah,” you have to *prove* it. You need to provide evidence that supports the claim.

      I suggest that you go back and look for some solid evidence, for and against, your claims, and see what you come up with. Then you can re-comment with your support included. Otherwise this sort of thing just isn’t going to help. We’re all very evidence-based around here, if you noticed. Good luck!

      Also, hi JT, I’m one of those long time readers, first time commenters. Couldn’t help myself!

    • Aquaria

      Your book is full of shit, and you’re a fucking moron for thinking otherwise.

      Fuck off, you moronic douchebag.

  • Aquaria

    What the bible says is good for society has always proven to be good.

    So having multiple wives and concubines beyond that is A-OK, then, Pastor?

    And wearing mixed fibers or eating shrimp is always bad–right?

    Another cherry-picking fraud of a scumbag for the genocidal scumbag in the sky.


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