It feels like this sometimes…

You know how sometimes we get some trolls in here?

Via Adam Brown at Atheism Resource.

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • Evan

    And just like that I now have Propellerheads stuck in my head.

  • Alverant

    When I get home, I’m copying the graphic.

  • Zinc Avenger

    Theist “reasoning” is somewhat like being flagellated with a wet noodle.

  • Yellow Thursday

    I agree with the left image, but not the right. My experiences on theist forums have been like having a bunch of lurching zombies standing around me, throwing half-rotten vegetables at me, hoping something will stick. I can avoid or push away the attacks, but they pile up around me until I’m buried under a pile of rank, rotten junk.

    It’s not something I want to have to deal with, so I generally avoid places religiozombies frequent.

    • christophburschka

      Maybe you need a metal pole?

      but they pile up around me until I’m buried

      See, at that point you need to throw them all into the air, punch the ground, fly straight up, and leave. :P

    • anteprepro

      Agreed with the sentiment. Dealing with one particular theist at a time is enough of a chore, even with help. But one atheist against a mob of relentless thick-as-a-brick theists with their own pet idiotic arguments that they will refuse to alter the slightest in response to corrections becomes a bit of a slog. It is very hard to feel like Neo, a superheroic zen-like master of argumentation who is able to fly above everyone’s heads and easily dispatch one’s “enemies”, when said “enemies” barely notice when a “punch” has landed.

      As you’ve said, the religious in religious forums are very much like zombies:
      -They use strength in numbers rather individual strength or skills, to say nothing of intellect.
      -They are unrelenting in continuing the same course of action over and over.
      -Related to the above, they are totally oblivious to the “damage” done to them.
      -Finally, the theists’ arguments are “undead”: Dead by the majority of objective indicators, and yet still moving around.

      The key exceptions are that the religious neither desire brains, nor show a greater responsiveness if you “aim for the head”. But every comparison’s gotta stop somewhere.

      (I guess I should note that we could give the poster more credit by realizing that Agent Smith is also a good analogy for the religious: A business-class white guy whose job is to insure that people are unaware of the true nature of their existence, and who turns other people into copies of himself. But that’s a bit more than that image is attempting to illustrate!)

  • Tinker Bell

    Adam Brown “won” his arguments on the Atheism Resource site by deleting all the comments that refuted him, and symstematically blocking any opposition.

    Who ya all kiddin?

    Besides yourselves?

    • lordshipmayhem

      Tink, are you saying it’s OK for the religious to delete researched, reasoned, logical and evidence-supported comments, but not fair to delete comments based on emotional, unfounded beliefs that in turn is based on goad herders’ six thousand year old legends?


    • TV200

      Good Morning Tinker Bell, I missed you too. :D

    • anteprepro

      If the caliber of your comments/”arguments” is any indication of the caliber of comments/”arguments” that were blocked and deleted, then I hardly think it matters. Why should someone feel obliged to clutter up comment threads with nonsense from mindless contrarians who show they are completely unwilling to engage?

  • Crimbly

    Hmm… I’d agree with the left hand picture, but I’ve seen arguments where religious people do eventually, gradually, give way to reasoned arguments; or at least leave. I have no doubt that an acorn of scepticism had been planted.

    I couldn’t say the same for an atheist in a theist forum – not least because there are no reasoned arguments to be had – but at the risk of sounding accommodationist it’s important to remember that theists believe utterly in what they’ve been taught, and re-enforced by the group they belong to. Somewhat like atheists, but where the theist is faithful, the atheist is doubtful.

    Methinks I’m paraphrasing a proverb of some sort which goes “it’s not the 100th blow that breaks the stone, but the 99 blows that came before”. You just have to keep it up, JT! We’re rooting for you. :D

  • Nikki Scull

    So using that as my desktop background picture from now on!

  • Eric Sweeney

    Adam Brown needs to lose at least a hundred pounds before he can even pretend to be Neo.

    I mean, that guy is FAT (I noticed it when he was on state at ReasonFest) and he is barely 30 or so.

    He needs to trim that waistline or he is heading for a coronary.