The fruits of perfect faith

Listen to this man of god.

The reverend Charles L. Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, N.C., was filmed on a YouTube rant, reportedly filmed on May 13 condemning President Barack Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage. Worley called for LGBTQ people to be put in an electrified pen and ultimately killed off.

“Build a great, big, large fence — 150 or 100 mile long — put all the lesbians in there,” Worley said.

“Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals and have that fence electrified so they can’t get out…and you know what, in a few years, they’ll die out…do you know why? They can’t reproduce!”

Worley said that if he’s asked who he’ll vote for, he’ll reply, “I’m not going to vote for a baby killer and a homosexual lover!”

In the background a significant number of the audience can be heard cheering and saying, “Amen.”

This man knows the bible.  He’s a pastor.

This man believes in Jesus and god, with a dedication unrivaled by most other believers I’d imagine.

Faith prevented him from batting an eyelash at the idea of murdering camps of normal, mostly kind people.  In fact, faith seems to be integral to Pastor Worley reveling in the potential mass murder of people unlike him.

And his congregation ate it up, almost certainly because of the influence of faith.

This is the problem of people believing in a god whose endorsement, in terms of morality, can trump human compassion.  When god affirms your prejudice, your murderous, loving prejudice, by what authority can humans wrestle it away?

If faith in god is not made to bow to reason it will destroy humankind.  This goes even for the faith of moderates, who perpetuate the idea that reason must not inform belief when it comes to religion.

  • brianpansky

    if he thinks lack of reproduction will kill them off, he is wrong. more will be born outside of the fence.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cosmicaug augustpamplona

    I’m not saying that this excuses his speech but he’s not calling for murder. He points out that if you have perfect segregation of the sexes, you’ll have no reproduction.

    Though this is not clear to me, he might also be trying to imply that we’d get rid of homosexuality in the general population altogether in this way. This is ironic because a lot of fundies are ideologically opposed to the notion of homosexual behavior having an inborn component.

    • jamessweet

      I’m not saying that this excuses his speech but he’s not calling for murder. He points out that if you have perfect segregation of the sexes, you’ll have no reproduction.

      But…

      This is ironic because a lot of fundies are ideologically opposed to the notion of homosexual behavior having an inborn component.

      I think the latter makes sense when you realize why the former is a red herring. The scenario is not supposed to be coherent; it only pretends to be so that he can assert it is a thought experiment, rather than glorifying in the imagery of putting gay people in electrified pens.

      In other words, while it’s true he’s not literally suggesting we do this, the entire point of his speech is to revel in that imagery, not to make any salient point.

  • jamessweet

    You know, there’s an interesting side question here raised by the pastors demented logic… Let’s say, for sake of argument, that all heterosexual people disappeared from the earth (I guess we all got raptured?). What then? I think extinction is pretty unlikely…. even neglecting the fact that many LGBT people do have biological children, via any number of procedures, I think it’s safe bet that enough of the people left would want children badly enough to tolerate some straight sex. If you invent some convoluted scenario that meant I would have to have sex with a guy a few times in order for my wife to get pregnant, I suppose I’d do it (prior to us having our two sons, of course; I don’t think I really want more!)

    Anyway, even ignoring the shocking and violent hatred in his idea, it just doesn’t actually really make any sense. LGBT people can reproduce.

    • brianpansky

      another good point.
      this person fails at morality, but even within the logic of homosexuality = bad, he fails. he fails even under his own ideology.

    • Steve

      It could be interpreted that he means to separate lesbians from gay men in order to prevent just that.

      The disturbing thing is that this is just the tip of the iceberg. This is just one lucky instance where a sermon was taped and made public. But the same thing probably happens daily in thousands of other churches and no one outside ever learns of it.

    • Drakk

      Bisexuals.

  • http://www.atheist-faq.com Jasper T

    they’ll die out…do you know why? They can’t reproduce!

    Wait, they’re sterile?

    • tubi

      Don’t give him any ideas…

  • http://www.atheist-faq.com Jasper T

    It’s this stupid idea that sexual orientation is defined by who you have sex with. I have three examples that underscores why this makes no sense.

    1) Virgins can be neither be heterosexual nor homosexual

    2) A heterosexual man is sent to pound-you-in-the-ass prison, and involuntarily has gay sex. He’s now a homosexual. Forever. Whether he wanted to be or not.

    3) There’s no such thing as a “closeted homosexual” – the types who are attracted to men but marry the opposite sex because that’s what they think they’re supposed to do. Nope, 100% heterosexual, they are.

    It’s dumb.

    • busterggi

      I believe that your first example is known as ‘Schrodinger’s virgins’ – until their boxes are opened you just don’t know.

      • http://florilegia.wordpress.com Ibis3, denizen of a spiteful ghetto

        HahaHa! Oh this made me laugh. One internet for you.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/Erulora Erulóra Maikalambe

    “Build a great, big, large fence — 150 or 100 mile long — put all the lesbians in there. Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals…”

    Wait. Lesbians, queers, and homosexuals?

    • http://florilegia.wordpress.com Ibis3, denizen of a spiteful ghetto

      My guess is queers (to him) are trans* people, bisexuals, crossdressers, and the intersexed.

      • https://twitter.com/#!/Erulora Erulóra Maikalambe

        And to him homosexual doesn’t include lesbians for the same reason “people” doesn’t include women, I’m sure.

  • NotAProphet

    Die out!? It’s not gay people having gay babies, it’s straight people, so maybe he thinks we should sterilise the whole population just to be sure.

    Cutting off nose…

    • https://twitter.com/#!/Erulora Erulóra Maikalambe

      You’re talking about a person who probably doesn’t believe people are born anything but straight. He likely thinks anybody not a 0 on the Kinsey scale was indoctrinated by the Gay Agenda™. It makes perfect sense in his twisted mind that if he could just keep Teh Gayz away from the children then he’d win.

  • themojohand

    “Build a great, big, large fence — 150 or 100 mile long — put all the lesbians in there,”


    I may or may not own that movie.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    In the background a significant number of the audience can be heard cheering and saying, “Amen.”

    Listen again: are you sure they’re not saying “Heil!”?

  • Drakk

    God fucking damn, what’s that term used for an area specifically designed for concentrating a large number of people in a particular place?

    It’s on the tip of my tongue…

  • kagekiri

    What a bunch of shit.

    In the stupid Bible, the gays are supposedly given the “gay curse” by God for wanting to disobey him. So really, unless God is dead and not cursing people with gayness anymore, then this idiotic bigotry wouldn’t work, even by their psychotic and demented standards. “Gayness isn’t biological;” remember that, you stupid fundies? Well that means your desires for genocide of specific sexualities wouldn’t work by your own fucking terrible standards and expectations, because all gay people just magically happen that way because God hates them, not because of their genes or birth.

    Hell, since God is the asshole responsible for gayness in your deluded minds and useless scripture, maybe you should punish him? Or just let the gayness be its own punishment? You’re interfering with God’s judgment by not letting people have gay sex and marriage!!

    Fucking-damned-God Christ-fellating asshats.

  • Joven

    I keep imagining him as this guy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q4txN1ut20&t=1m52s

    “Build a border around San Fransisco, they can have that”

  • http://polyskeptic.com Wes

    Like augustpamplona said, he’s not calling for murder. I don’t think it’s necessary to hyperbolize to communicate just how fucked up and evil this guy is. He’s calling for forced segregation, leading to the natural extinction of a group of people. I don’t think we need to call that “murder” in order for people to get the message that it’s totally wrong and intolerable.

  • christophburschka

    Note that while “murder” may be the wrong term, “genocide” comes pretty close.

    (“deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group”)

    If sexual orientation were a racial, ethnic or national identity. But the entire harebrained scheme hinges on that premise: In the real world, most homosexual people are children of heterosexual couples, so these “concentration camps” would completely fail at their purpose.
    In the pastor’s delusional universe, homosexual people are a cohesive and genetically isolated group, so what he is talking about is genocide.


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