Dad on abortion.

Dad nails it again.

What amazes me is that the anti-choice screamers aren’t doing the best possible and simplest things to prevent abortions. That would be funding and promoting broad based sex education and making contraception free and readily available. If you don’t want abortions, that is how you stop them. If, instead, you want to force your narrow minded moral views on to other people by using the government and the law as a cudgel, then you do….exactly what you are doing.

  • http://www.nobelief.net Jasper of Maine (I feel safe and welcome at FTB)

    A huge part of the problem is that they oversimplify problems, and then try to come up with overly simplified solutions that ignore the nuances of the situation, and end up only making things worse.

    Too much teen pregnancy? Just tell them to not have sex!

    Too much violence in society? Read the Bible!

    • ‘Tis Himself

      I’m reminded of a comment by H.L. Mencken: “Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers.”

  • Alverant

    @Jasper
    I would think that given the content of the bible, reading it would increase, not decrease, the amount of violence in society.

    • http://www.nobelief.net Jasper of Maine (I feel safe and welcome at FTB)

      But you don’t understand. The Bible is good. God is good. Therefore, learning about God would make people better.

      • Adam

        Well, who can argue with that logic? Let’s all become Christians now. /sarcasm

        You would be surprised(or maybe not) by the number of people who honestly believe that.

  • smhll

    I agree with your dad. I tried to be open to the idea that anti-abortion people just really care about human life, but when I saw many people of that faction opposing sex ed and condoms, then it was clear that there is a big “anti-sex” element in the “pro-life” movement. Now that we have antibiotic resistant gonorrhea, sensible people should be giving away condoms by the cartload.

  • Jubal DiGriz

    I was just reading a couple Catholic blogs for no particular reason, and they were all about all the terrible injustices of condom proliferation this Natural Family Planning method is. The anti-choice people seem to consistently forget that condoms are also about disease prevention.

    But what’s most noticeable is that it doesn’t take much reading between the lines to see that most of them very much “want to force your narrow minded moral views on to other people by using the government and the law as a cudgel.” They’re not hiding it. Supporters know it, organizers know it, politicians know it. The debate really isn’t about the efficacy of contraception or the biology of abortions, but how much doctrine can be crammed into state and federal law.

    • Steve

      Catholic blogs are fucked up. The people there are indistinguishable from Protestant fundamentalists. Each one more batshit insane than the next. Those kinds of Catholics are relatively rare in real life, but on the internet they all find each other.

      • Andrew G.

        I think the Catholic blogs are even more fucked up than the Protestant fundamentalists.

        Probably the most brain-breaking thing I’ve seen on a Catholic blog was an article about how it was such a tragedy that wives who wanted more children could be prevented from having them by their husbands (via vasectomy or condom use).

        W. T. F.

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  • nichrome

    JT:

    Since you’re leaving FTB, maybe your dad could blog here?

    WWJTDD – What Would JT’s Dad Do?

    • LeftSidePositive

      I second this.

    • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

      Good idea. :)

    • http://wanderinweeta.blogspot.com Susannah

      This.

      • otrame

        JT, I don’t mind reading you over on Patheos–I’m there everyday for Slacktivist. But I think it would be cool if your Dad blogged here. I like him. I like him a lot.

  • Steve

    Especially the “pro-life” politicians are also doing the best they can to gut social services and any government assistance for families. Especially single mothers, since so many benefits hinge on being married. For them life begins at conception and ends at birth.

  • Randomfactor

    It isn’t established as cause-and-effect, but it appears that if you want to reduce the number of abortions in a country, you make it as legal and safe as possible to have them. And the converse seems to be true: want to increase abortion? Outlaw it.

    http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/Sedgh-Lancet-2012-01.pdf

    (Of course, outlawing abortion works very well if your ACTUAL intention is to have women die from them.)

    • Zed

      Frankly, it may be more likely that the countries that are liberal enough to make abortions legal and safe also strongly support sex education and family planning, both of which lead to fewer unwanted pregnancies.

      It would be scientifically interesting to get a country to make abortions legal but teach abstinence only sex ed and a country that makes abortions illegal, but provides good sex education/family planning/contraceptives.

  • fwtbc

    Image description/alt tag, please?

    • Anonymous Atheist

      The image says:
      “I’ll bet you one unplanned pregnancy that you are secretly pro-choice.” – Your Ecards, someecards.com

  • Mark

    “Pro Choice” is a euphemism for genocide.

    • Zed

      hahaha, I think you forgot a at the end of that.

      • Zed

        hrmmm, comments don’t render tags…

        you forgot a //end sarcasm//

        • baal

          I think Mark means it.

          The problem with his view is that concepti or embryos are not people. Further, if he really wants to end this ‘genocide’ he should read JT’s dad’s comment and become pro-condom, pro-scientificly based sex ed.

          So Mark, will you stop the genocide in the way that actually works or will you just make life miserable for actual living people?

        • Zed