Dan rides again.

First dad fired a warning shot.  Dan decided to ignore it.  Then Dan reaped what he had sown.

And now he wants some more.

It represents what a baby looks like at 12 weeks and that is what I said all along. You are the one always trying to twist things for some type of apology or demand by twisting things that you are right and someone is wrong. You seem to need this in your life to always be right and always think that if you can twist something it makes you victorious over everyone.It is what a baby looks like at 12 weeks whether you admit it or not.

You have some serious issues that you should address. I don’t know if you have always been that way or if something happened in your life to make you this way. A psychologist would need a very long couch for you and your host of demons. To hate as much as you do toward Christians & God is unreal. I have never meet someone that doesn’t just not believe in God ,but wants to attack Christians & God whenever possible.You spew vomit in words like the exorcist. I will never sit quiet and not stand up for what I believe. That is the problem with the world today.To many have sit quiet and let a few like you change laws,celebrate abortion,and spew lies about God. I’m happy to say that I ‘m not alone. Though no one else has commented to this,there are many more that would agree with me than you. So stomp your feet ,spin your green head ,rub your lucky rabbits foot ,spew vile words against Christians & God .You loose!

Spewing vile words against god?  My dad is pretty damn tame.  Give this guy an hour in the same forum as me.

My father always told me that discretion is the better part of valor.  It’s sadly one of those lessons I’m still iffy on.  I don’t really pick my battles, unless you count picking all of them (thankfully, I have so many to choose from anymore that picking all of them is scarcely an option).  But unlike Dan, I have put a good amount of time into making sure my beliefs are defensible enough that I can go to war on them without getting immediately backed into a corner and without recourse to all manner of bullshit.  I’ve done this by changing my mind when someone has a better case.

That’s a lesson that would serve Dan very well.

Dad responded again.

Where is the good Christian love, Dan? I’m not feeling it from you. It doesn’t look like your praying last night did much good. Maybe you need to try a burnt offering or sacrifice a goat.

“It represents what a baby looks like at 12 weeks and that is what I said all along.”

You’re a liar, Dan. Your exact words “@ Mr. John Eberhard,I was waiting for a reply on if you would be for aborting baby in above picture.”
1. You said it was a baby, not a sculpture. Read your words.
2.That is not what a fetus looks like at 12 weeks. I provided you links to pictures of what they do look like at 12 weeks. Look at them. Yours is a sculptors conception of what it would need to look like to evoke the emotional response you want. You mislead on purpose.

As to “Though no one else has commented to this,there are many more that would agree with me than you”……Oh, Dan, I have no doubt there are many more indoctrinated and not very bright people who are eager to take rights away from other Americans. You will get no argument from me on that point.

I understand, Dan. It is easier for you to call names and to insult than to address the very reasonable questions I broach. Let me repeat them:
What excuse do you use for not working hard to promote broad based sex education and readily available free contraception to decrease unplanned pregnancies in the first place?
If you are really so against abortions, isn’t this an effective way to decrease them?
If you are really pro-life, you don’t want women dying from back room abortions do you? Surely you aren’t so blind as to not realize if abortion is illegal that is what will happen.
What gives you the right to make personal medical decisions for every woman?

If god had wanted Christians to tell the truth, he would have built the facts in their favor.

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    Dan’s a real glutton for punishment, isn’t he?

  • Rory

    So, does anyone want to bet that Dan’s next reply will either 1) acknowledge that the photo is BS, or 2) answer any of those simple and reasonable question?


  • fastlane

    That’s a sucker’s bet…..

  • wmdon

    I’m not really a grammar nagger, and I’m no pedant, but one thing that always irks me to no end is when someone uses the wrong word in a common phrase. It indicates to me that they are merely using the phrase because they’ve heard it somewhere, and haven’t really thought about what it means.

    Case in point:

    Then Dan reaped what he had sewn.

    Now, I like this phrase in the context you’ve used it – it’s downright biblical, and completely apropos. However, it loses a lot of its impact when you consider that reaping is an agricultural term, and “sewn” is… not.

    The word you are looking for is “sown” – as in “sowing seeds on rocky ground”.

    Sewing is something one does with a needle and thread. As in, your dad has sewn Dan into a pocket with no escape. (Lame turn of phrase, but there you are.)

    On the plus side, your dad is awesome.

    • http://freethoughtblogs.com/wwjtd JT Eberhard

      You’re right. Will fix. :)

  • Akira MacKenzie

    “If you are really so against abortions, isn’t this an effective way to decrease them?”

    Having worked Dan’s side of the political spectrum, I can tell you it’s not so much the abortions that drives right-wing Christians into a conniption fit. It’s the sex, specifically sex outside of marriage for pleasure, that drives them bonkers. To people like Dan, sex is a necessary evil that humans must engage into to create more Christians; “be fruitful and multiply” and all that..

    Thus, sex for pleasure is sinful and hedonistic. Therefore STDs and unwanted pregnancies are his god’s earthly consequences for fornication, because apparently the threatened eternal damnation of Hell is not enough for Yahweh. Abortion, birth control, and other prophylactics create “consequence-free” sex, and we can’t have that!

    That, and throw in the much-disccuseed issue of women’s sexuality (i.e. “Good girls don’t want sex! Only a filthy slut would WANT to have sex!”) and you’ve got a recipe for Christian sexual repression.

  • DaveL

    To [sic] many have sit quiet [sic]

    Yeah, Christians are famous for keeping quiet when atheists share their religious opinions.

    and let a few like you change laws,

    It takes more than a few people to change laws. It’s almost as if Dan isn’t actually in the majority.

    celebrate abortion,

    Abortion party, my place, seven o’clock!

    and spew lies about God

    Yeah! Down with Universalists! I mean Jews! Er, make that Muslims! Don’t forget Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses…

    You know, come to think of it, pretty much every religious group holds that every other religious group is telling lies about God, except those who think they’re telling lies about the gods.

    Maybe we ought to have a constitutional amendment guaranteeing freedom of religion or something.

    • http://peopleofpublictransport.wordpress.com Zinc Avenger (Sarcasm Tags 3.0 Compliant)

      Methodists, you’re next!

  • Akira MacKenzie

    Abortion party, my place, seven o’clock!

    I’ll bring the stirrups and the hummus!

    • Akira MacKenzie

      DOH! Sorry about the HTML fail.

    • http://peopleofpublictransport.wordpress.com Zinc Avenger (Sarcasm Tags 3.0 Compliant)

      Don’t worry about the hummus, there’ll be plenty of blastocyst and fetus to go around, and last time we barely touched the hummus.

      • Akira MacKenzie

        I like to mix the two, OK.

    • http://www.facebook.com/msmith1 mattsmith

      Stirrups AND hummus?! *anxiously looks at the clock*

  • Loqi

    Your dad almost makes me wish I had a few fundamentalist FB friends to smack down every once in a while.


  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1468751142 Kevin

    In his speech at the Freethought Festival, JT offers the perfect approach to people like Dan.

    Do not let them change the subject.

    “lie about god”? No, this is about abortion. Answer the questions.

    And on and on. Never deviate. Answer the questions. Are you for effective programs that will reduce the abortion rate or not?

    Answer the questions, Dan.

  • http://peopleofpublictransport.wordpress.com Zinc Avenger (Sarcasm Tags 3.0 Compliant)

    Your weapon of Facts is no match for the Shield of Faith that blocks everything but Jesus.

    The twin swords of Emotionally Charged Rhetoric and Photo of Misleading Sculpture will pierce your thin shell of Reality Based Reasoning, and the tainted blood of Atheism will flow, allowing the pure WUV that is Jesus into your Heart.

  • http://www.nobelief.net Jasper of Maine (I feel safe and welcome at FTB)

    Theist facts are only visible if you don’t look at them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shockna shockna

    JT, I’m totally jealous of your dad. I wish mine had that kind of fervor in him, that’s incredible.

  • Glodson

    Am I the only one that got hung up on the “You loose” comment at the end of Dan’s crazy?