Full page entries in google reader.

Here’s the deal guys.

I moved here to make more money in an effort to pay the bills as a writer.  I get paid per hit and google reader views do not count toward that.  So here’s what I’m going to do: I’m going to ask Patheos to switch my blog over to full-page entries in google reader.  I appreciate that you like what I have to say, and I’m happy to take the time to research and write it.  But please remember that this is now my livelihood.  All the research I’ve looked into on this suggests I’m going to take a major hit to traffic by doing this.

Please consider clicking through, or getting on your computer and reading the comments or something.


Ganner left this comment.

Something I hadn’t thought to ask before with other blogs – does having an ad filter active prevent you from getting revenue from our visits? If so, you could encourage users to add an exception into their filter. I’ve seen other websites do this, and I’ve included an exception for them.

Yes.  If you’d like to help me make more money for eggs, consider doing that.

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About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • ganner

    Something I hadn’t thought to ask before with other blogs – does having an ad filter active prevent you from getting revenue from our visits? If so, you could encourage users to add an exception into their filter. I’ve seen other websites do this, and I’ve included an exception for them.

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  • Katy

    Happy to click through – I’ve been trying to do that anyway since Libby-Anne said feed reader readers don’t count for revenue – but for some reason my feed reader is getting two copies of everything you post at the moment – it’s only just started happening, and your’s is the only site I’ve seen it happen on.

  • http://twitter.com/nicoleintrovert Nicole Introvert

    Thank you JT! I was going to shoot you an email and ask about this. I have a pretty strict “I can’t deal with truncating posts on Google Reader” policy. But I have been making an exception for you. I hereby promise to click through! I usually do to read/participate in comments anyway.

  • John Horstman

    Did I miss the bit where it makes sense to post full articles to RSS/Atom feeds in the first place?

  • Len W

    No deal… but, if you add a tip jar I’d be happy to donate every so often.

  • http://skepticalimerick.blogspot.com/ Rich Stage

    Anything for you, big boy.

  • http://csdphumor.com Steven Olsen


  • J*

    I assumed that was the reason for the change, but I have noticed some of the blogs I frequent display ads in my google reader. Is that available to you and would that get you paid? Could make everyone happy.

    If that doesn’t work I recommend leaving it the way it is. I think most of us are happy to click through but new readers may not realize it makes any difference.

  • http://www.jdanielclements.com Daniel Clements

    Patheos has a good mobile template, so it is very readable on a phone. I will assume that counts as a hit? (Although I don’t see any ads.)

  • http://eternalbookshelf.wordpress.com Ani Sharmin

    Deal. I tend to click through most of the time anyway and use Google Reader more as a reminder of what to read. Hope you’re settling into and enjoying your new blog.

  • Rob R

    Why not do RSS ads like FTB? You’re already using feedburner for your RSS provider/analytics, so it would be simple to set up Google AdSense for Feeds (because they’re tightly integrated Google products). At that point you could ask Patheos to provide a rev share on Feed ads to the appropriate blogger.

  • http://www.honestuniverse.com Mark Hanna

    There’s a Google Chrome extension that lets you load the source of a page you’re viewing in an iFrame so you don’t need to leave Reader in order to view it. As far as I know, this should have the same effects as a full clickthrough, but I find it more convenient. Here’s a link to the extension – https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/khbjahpecnkenngkidhioicnfpakihgo

  • http://neeroc.wordpress.com/ Neeroc

    Will do, and I’m not sure if anyone cares about these things, but I’m more likely to click through and comment on full posts, and less likely to read truncated posts…this may be a result of following too many blogs *g*

  • Billtannica

    I use Google Reader, but I usually read blogs through a RSS reader on my iPad called Feedler which accesses my Google Reader subscriptions. It has an option to load the full source web page instead of just the RSS text, which is an option I do use despite the longer load times. Is that giving a page count? I hope so.

  • Anonymous

    While you’re fiddling, can you set it back to showing full posts on the home page? Loading muliple pages just to read is a massive PITA.

  • Daniel Schealler

    I’m a heavy RSS-user.

    I don’t mind having to click through to Patheos.

    The only point that might become an issue for me would be if I was stuck behind a firewall that was blocking Patheos but not Google Reader. *THEN* it might be worthwhile to have the full article version.

    Anyway, I don’t mind which way it goes. I’ll try to remember to click through even if I don’t have to.

  • DStegosaurus

    Don’t do it! I love you man, but I’m lazy. If you give me the full article in my RSS feed I’ll never click through.

  • http://wanderinweeta.blogspot.com Susannah

    I absolutely hate ads. I’d be happier with a tip jar. Can you do that?

  • Drakk

    What do I have to white list in order to make sure you get your ad monies from me? All of patheos? Just this blog?

  • Lou Doench

    I use iGoogle homepage to sort my blogs, which is going away in 2013 evidently, and it always clicks through to the blogs article, full page view. I’m actually a bit annoyed that I will have to switch to some sort of feed reader next year.

  • http://twitter.com/raethfall raethfall

    I’m going to echo Rob R’s comment a bit and say I’d prefer ads in the full RSS feed posts, but actually if that’s not possible then I prefer the truncated feeds because I always open the click through in a new tab and go back to read it a bit later. Love your stuff no matter what JT.

  • Jake

    More than willing to click through to your site. Done and will continue to do so.

  • Larry Clapp

    Re: the tip jar: What’s fair? If I clicked through to every blog entry, and clicked on every ad, how much would you make? What is one “frothing-at-the-mouth-user equivalent” in ad revenue?

    Put another way: I sent you $20. When should I “renew”? :)

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wwjtd JT Eberhard

      Seriously, a couple bucks would be more than enough.

  • http://www.dellion.net Allison

    Thank you A LOT for making your blog fully accessible through google reader. It’s really annoying to have to click through every time and I honestly wouldn’t remember to read it half the time if all my reading material wasn’t in one place. I also promise that I click through rather regularly for comments on interesting posts and to send out links. I also retweet. :)


  • http://andythenerd.tumblr.com The Nerd

    I won’t remember.
    I simply won’t.
    I appreciate the gesture, but if you want me to click, you have to cut off your blog posts.