Prayer in reality.

Offering some sort of reason as to why you don’t like JT’s ideas would work better than a meaningless ad hominem attack.

If you had some sort of intelligent rebuttal that would prove JT wrong, that would really show him. Otherwise, all you’ve got is the equivalent of tone-trolling.

Well, Forbing, some people think that if you respect a person, you should be honest and upfront with them, and generally treat them as if they were grownups, as opposed to… say… treating them like fragile little flowers in a hermetically-sealed greenhouse, or perhaps treating them like little children who must needs be *protected* from any discourse which might hurt their little feelings. Some people think that the “treat ‘em like fragile flowers” option is anything but respectful to the person on the receiving end; some people even think that the “treat ‘em like fragile flowers” option is is condescending and infantilizing.
I think it’s pretty clear that JT is one of those people who believe that real respect involves treating adults like adults, not like children. But I gotta tell you, Forbing, I’m not so sure about you Christians. Looking at all the invective that you Christians fling at athiests on a regular basis, one could get the idea that Christians are firmly on board with the “treat ‘em like grownups” school of respect; but looking at how you Christians respond to that sort of thing when *Christians* are on the receiving end, it seems more like Christians are *actually* in the “treat ‘em like fragile flowers” school of respect—or even that Christians don’t *really* give a shit about this ‘respect’ stuff, and they just bring it up as a silencing tactic when atheists rub Christian noses in unpleasant facts.
We atheists think that you Christians are deluded to believe in your invisible friend. You Christians think that we atheists are going to be tortured forever because we don’t buy the memeplex you’re selling. We think you’re wrong; you think we’re going to *burn* *forever*. You want to talk about unpleasantness, Forbing? Fine—but let’s talk about *all* the unpleasantness from *both* sides of this particular disagreement, as opposed to focusing *solely and entirely* on putative unpleasantness from the atheist side of the disagreement. Because that sort of one-sidedness is bullshit, and if you want to go there, you can fuck right off and die in a fire. Yeah, that’s an unpleasant concept, but I’m an atheist; any fire I might suggest someone die in is a *limited and finite* fire, as compared to the *infinite and eternal* fires which you Christians have a habit of threatening people with when those people disagree with you.

Mr. Forbing,
Faiths and belief systems don’t have dialogs. People do. Belief systems can’t have their feelings hurt and they shouldn’t get automatic respect. They should be judged by how sensible they are and what good they do. So why not have a dialog about your belief system? It appears you want to use this unearned respect to shield your beliefs from valid discussion and criticism. I’m pretty sure that’s not going to fly on this blog. So, I would suggest that you either conduct a real dialog or flee before you’re forced to actually confront how irrational your beliefs are.