Prayer is the most powerful thing Christians can do!

John Haggee knows how to beat Obama.

I am asking the Christians of America to join us in 40 days of prayer for this presidential election. These 40 days of prayer will begin on Sept. 28, 2012. You can do it individually or in groups, but prayer is the most powerful force God has given us to bring our nation back to righteousness. I’ll be saying more about this as the year progresses, but mark it on your calendar and start telling your family, friends, and church members now about the 40 days of prayer.”

The most powerful tool god has given them, and it doesn’t do shit.  Should Obama win reelection, will the conclusion be that prayer simply does not work?  Of course not.

But go nuts, guys.  Prayer is powerful, you bet!  It’s the most powerful thing you can do.  More powerful than voting.  You don’t want to lose time doing the most powerful thing god gave you to engage in the less powerful, mortal act of voting.  That extra hour of prayer could make all the difference.

Or, if you do go out, take a stand and vote for Jesus.

(Via Ed Brayton)

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • Art Vandelay

    They couldn’t do 39 days to maybe set a day aside for AIDS in Africa or something?

  • Baal

    It does seem awfully materialistic to focus on praying for one president or another. Shouldn’t they pray for stan to be cast out of our planet or somesuch?

    • iknklast

      Now I’m torn. Should I root for stan to be cast out, since my ex-husband is stan? Naw, wouldn’t be playing fair. ;-)

  • Rovin’ Rockhound

    The concept of prayer baffles me. Do they think that they are going to change god’s mind by nagging him about something for 40 days? Prayer seems to contradict their own beliefs – either god is not really in full control of the situation, and by praying they can get him to step in and handle one issue, or god doesn’t really do what is “best” from the start, since by praying you can get him to change the outcome of events to better results. I guess it does make people seem like they have some control over the situation, but it’s still ridiculous.

    It’s like the people who pray right before someone is getting scans to see if their cancer is back. At that point, it’s either back or it is not. I would be pissed if prayed worked and god could take cancer out just because people prayed, since it meant the bastard was perfectly happy to let someone die but was easily convinced otherwise.

    Sorry – the dog did not want to sleep last night, and my coffee this morning is awful. I’m rambling.

    • Keith

      Plus, prayer directly contradicts the Christian apologetic of free will. By praying, you are beseeching god to overrule a person’s free will and make them do X ( vote republican in this case).

      Yet free will, to a Christian, is absolutely critical to explaining the existence of evil.

      I attribute this to one more instance of godders simply not thinking things through.

    • John Horstman

      Yeah, there are a lot of ontological and epistemic inconsistencies and contradictions in theology (any theology – for there not to be, it would necessarily be reality-based, or constructed as an abstracted system by much smarter people than those who came up with it, and not haphazardly cobbled together by hundreds or thousands of years of political haggling; sentential logic and mathematics are both systems that attempt this, and even they are hardly complete or without internal problematics, like paradoxes or imaginary and transcendental numbers).

    • Drakk

      Religion is logically inconsistent? Who’da thunk?

  • Randomfactor

    The REASON that prayer won’t work in this case is that they’ll go and spoil it by voting too. It shows their innate lack of faith in godz powerz. But no, like Moses hitting the rock with his stick they’ll doubt and subject themselves to four more years of wandering in the desert.

    I mean, it’s right there in the fuckin’ Bible. Either you have faith or you don’t.

    • Anonymous

      as a Christian myself, your comment gave me goose bumps. It is true. We Christians tend to make fools of ourselves by contradicting what we preach. Still, when all is said and done, God…not religion ….. is still ….. well, he still takes my breath away. Yes, it’s all so illogical but so is love, so are the animals…so is the sun rising and setting. It’s all very illogical but it’s there. We cannot raionalise it away. In Southb Africa, I experienced the occult first hand. Saw, felt and heard many things. If only I did, I would have thought i am crazy, however, others did too …..why am I mentioning this? Well, i know there are demons/evil spirits call it what you want, so, what else is out there that we find hard to believe? But it’s there.

      • Glodson

        as a Christian myself, your comment gave me goose bumps. It is true. We Christians tend to make fools of ourselves by contradicting what we preach.

        The Bible does that for you by contradicting both reality and itself. At numerous times. And given the stark differences between different denominations, and even congregations within those denominations, there’s bound to be some mass confusion over what Christians should preach to begin with.

        That’s…. a slight problem. Fucking divine will, how does it work?

        Still, when all is said and done, God…not religion ….. is still ….. well, he still takes my breath away.

        According to much of the Bible, that’s quite literal. In that he kills people. Often. And with great enthusiasm. Might be why he made not killing one of the commandments. He is a jealous god, and he’s jealous of our killings.

        Oh, you meant in awe. Yea.. not so much. God kind of sucks out loud as a character. Designated Protagonist. Unless it is done for a good reason in a work of fiction, it is an example of bad writing. Since it is played straight in the Bible and we are supposed to be with god, that’s a very bad case of poor narrative flow.

        Yes, it’s all so illogical but so is love, so are the animals…so is the sun rising and setting. It’s all very illogical but it’s there. We cannot raionalise it away.

        What?

        I feel that went badly. Let me try again.

        Yes, it’s all so illogical but so is love, so are the animals…so is the sun rising and setting. It’s all very illogical but it’s there. We cannot raionalise it away.

        What?

        There, that’s better. Okay… believing in god is irrational. The other items…. not so much. For animals, we have Evolution. That does a good job of explaining Speciation, their behaviors and all that. As for the origin of life itself, the abiogenesis hypothesis is a good start. There’s not been a good experimental confirmation of the models, but there’s plenty of supporting evidence. This is insufficient to label any of the models a theory, but it is a good working explanation that is both supported by some circumstantial evidence, as well as being consistent with what we know of chemistry, plus some evidence in the fossil record.

        Let’s move on to love. Again, we have science to explain this. It is an emotion. As such, we can look at neurology for how it works in your brain, and we can examine sociology to see ways in which love is expressed within a culture at large, and we can use psychology to examine how love is manifested and expressed on a personal level.

        Finally, the biggest offender out of the three you rattled off. It’s gravity.

        In Southb Africa, I experienced the occult first hand. Saw, felt and heard many things.

        No, you didn’t. You experienced things you don’t have an explanation for. That’s an argument form ignorance. It is likely examples of pareidolia, the phenomenon of seeing a pattern. Sometimes we can see a pattern in nothing but noise. And it can be an example of selection bias. You have a profound experience that you associate with the supernatural when it is nothing but a coincidence, a confluence of circumstances that happen to coincide with a religious thought or ceremony. Name the experiences, and I likely can ferret out an explanation consistent with what we know of the universe.

        If only I did, I would have thought i am crazy, however, others did too …..why am I mentioning this? Well, i know there are demons/evil spirits call it what you want, so, what else is out there that we find hard to believe? But it’s there.

        It is amazing how demons disappear when we develop science. It is amazing how illnesses were found to not be curses, of foul vapors, or bad humors, but rather have causes in microbes, or genetic problems. It is amazing how possession fades was we start to understand psychology and neurology. It is amazing how the spheres of heaven faded when people made accurate charts of the stars and eschewed the heliocentric idea.

        It isn’t there.

  • http://pzer0.com Dan

    The comments on that Hagee article are ridiculous. It scares me to know that people like this exist. I’m also surprised that Hagee is still kicking… Anyone know the current tax exempt status of his church? This email reads like politicking, at least to me.

  • Andrew B.

    My hope is that they’ll be so busy praying they’ll forget to vote.

  • TGAP Dad

    I heartily endorse this plan! Note to all believers: pray for the election outcome you want. In fact, pray instead of going to vote! Pray morning, noon and night! Why send your candidates money, when a few words mumbled over clasped hands is SO much more powerful?

    Prayer is the believers’ way assuaging their guilt over not actually doing anything to accomplish good. Don’t actually want to help the neighbor down the street with the dying spouse? Pray! Can’t really muster up the energy to help feed the homeless? Why, pray of course!

  • Makoto

    I say pray! Pray hard! Pray so hard that you don’t even need to visit the polls, since your prayers are superior to puny polls, obviously, since god is probably/definitely better than polling options, right?

  • Rozanna

    as a Christian myself, your comment gave me goose bumps. It is true. We Christians tend to make fools of ourselves by contradicting what we preach. Still, when all is said and done, God…not religion ….. is still ….. well, he still takes my breath away. Yes, it’s all so illogical but so is love, so are the animals…so is the sun rising and setting. It’s all very illogical but it’s there. We cannot raionalise it away. In Southb Africa, I experienced the occult first hand. Saw, felt and heard many things. If only I did, I would have thought i am crazy, however, others did too …..why am I mentioning this? Well, i know there are demons/evil spirits call it what you want, so, what else is out there that we find hard to believe? But it’s there.

    • Glodson

      Ah, double post.

      See Here if you want to see the reply.

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