Comment roundup 12/21.

After the reaction of people like Mike Huckabee to the Sandy Hook shooting, I made a facebook status that read “God’s opinion is apparently that if children aren’t being forced to pray then their lives aren’t worth saving.”

Patrick Brown, a guy I went to college with (and Christian) commented:

Rght! They should have been praying to JT. Since we know for sure he's real, he woulda been able to stop it. If we could just convince more people to consider WWJTD, everything would be alright...

First, Patrick, how is that relevant at all to my status?  My status didn’t say “Praying to god doesn’t stop murderers, so you should pray to me.”  It did reiterate the opinion of very prominent religious leaders.

What’s more, I can stop some bad things from happening (and the evidence of this is plentiful), but not murder.  I can’t see the future and I’m not omniscient/omnipotent.  Of course, I’m not the one saying I am either…

Next up, we have Nejijuuz who, in response to the Pope blessing one of the leading Uganda legislators who wants to kill people for the crime of being gay, said

It is wonderful to know that Jesus came to the world to save sinners not the righteous cos they do need saving. The pope blessings people is a sign that there is a way out irrespective of you being good or bad, or coloured or black. God bless the pope

Good call, Nejijuuz.  The sinners are the ones who need saving, god bless the guy lending endorsement to the agents of genocide.

You probably don’t think that compassion can be demented by religion either.

Last, there’s Oj with this wall of gibberish.

It’s really stupid to think the way you are thinking about comments from a men that us not an atheist, is really dumb keep trusting in your limited logic versus the reality of God and the prove of Him, you are taking the opportunity to attack a men over his liberty of expression, to bring hate, criticism, and to denigrate him, because you do not agree with his way of thinking that is influenced by Christianity, it sounds like atheism is more about the bad than the good, it really brings out the ignorance of how humanity works and how is influenced by this world; how instead of focusing on this tragedy, you are focusing on this man that do want to bring an explanation of where was God in this tragedy and why He permitted it, what people don’t understand they criticize and what is wrong the called it good and what is good they call bad. There’s always comments from people that do not understand God and who do not know Him, so is better for them not to believe in Him and attack everyone who believes, they want to transmit the hatred and the unbelieve that exist in their hearts, which brings them anger, unhappiness and the feeling of not being important to the rest that believe, but I say to you, no matter what is your situation and the reason why you choose to be an atheist, there’s a way out and there’s true freedom in the believe of God, because He does not only exist and is real, but is the very essence who permits you to have life, and this is revelation from the above, do not try to criticize me for showing you the truth, but think, am I wrong in my way of living?, stop attacking someone because he lives under a different credo than yours and start opening your understanding to greater and deeper things of life, come out of the ignorance where most people take their choices over what the masses think or what I understand in the knowledge of my short life, like the philosopher said ‘I just know that I do not know anything’

To which I can only respond…

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • Jaketoadie

    Did you intend the video link to be what appears to be your entire favorites playlist?

    • Jaketoadie

      Also, nice job on the song from little shop of horrors. (I loves me that show, both movie and on stage)

  • Art Vandelay

    That was awesome.

    • Art Vandelay

      Posted before the N’Sync video came up of course.

  • baal

    For the meaning impared, he’s what I get out of the reply. “Guys, you’re nuts. I live mentally over here in this nicer mental space and want you to come along.” And then the nsync video. I mean, what’s up with that?

    (I also dislike music played on the piano or music with piano in it. I usually view this as a personal failing but have been known to accidentally trip over power cords to stereos playing it and also accidentally finding the 12# sledge and dropping it though slippery fingers multiple times on to an ipod that won’t stop with the piano noises. I recognize these are unusual feelings but will not be seeking help for them. You may like piano music and I don’t judge you for that.)

  • iknklast

    Was there a single coherent sentence in that last one? It made my head hurt.

    • Glodson

      I read it a few times.

      And I’m still asking myself that very same question.

    • baal

      Coherence is overrated*. TL;DR: I don’t like piano music.

      *I have to remind myself to use the language is the same fashion as other folks from time to time. It’s tedious but helps others with what I’m saying.

      • baal

        language is = language in. I don’t seem to be up to commenting today; this seems to be a trend for Fridays.

      • John Horstman

        I think they were referring to the last comment JT included in the OP.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t see the future and I’m not omniscient/omnipotent.

    JT, this is not the way it is done. You don’t make simple declarative statements like that. Instead you ask questions. You have to be more subtle, more cryptic, and more manipulative. Like that Jesus dude in Mark 8:27-30

    27] And Jesus went out, and his disciples, into the towns of Caesarea Philippi: and by the way he asked his disciples, saying unto them, Whom do men say that I am?
    [28] And they answered, John the Baptist: but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets.
    [29] And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.
    [30] And he charged them that they should tell no man of him.

    • John Horstman

      Wait, so the first rule of Jesus Club is the same as the first rule of Fight Club?

  • Ani J. Sharmin

    Right! They should have been praying to JT. (Patrick Brown)

    Sometimes, I want to put up a great big sign that says “Not worshipping God =/= Worshipping humans or yourself!”

    • Andrew Kohler

      It really does seem that some people think that not worshiping God is equivalent to placing oneself at the center of the universe; I’ve heard things like this before (as have we all, no doubt). It’s akin to the charge of atheists being arrogant and claiming to know what’s unknowable (hmmm that sounds like something else…), et cetera. Maybe it’s because some people have such a strong belief that there is an ultimate moral authority that they assume that anyone who doesn’t believe in a god must substitute something else, rather than simply not believe in any form of ultimate authority.

      Note how Patrick Brown did not address JT’s actual point, namely that Mike Huckabee and others like him were suggesting that God’s idea of justice is having children brutally murdered not for any offense they have themselves committed, but rather because the adults in their lives aren’t forcing them to pray. It would be despicable and rebarbative to say that the adults who were killed were punished for this offense, but at least it would have some basic consistency of (hideous) thought. One wonders if Patrick was not troubled by the Huckabee way of thinking (for want of a more accurate word), or at the very least why he found it more important to attack JT for self-aggrandizement (for writing a comment that wasn’t in the least about himself). What a vexatious comment.

  • Jeremy Shaffer

    I think you’re being a little too dismissive with Patrick there. I mean, as far as anyone can tell no one has ever tried praying to JT to stop all these horrors so can we really say it wouldn’t work? I say we give it two thousand years (plus or minus) and bring it back up for review then.

  • gratch

    Oj buddy look down at your keyboard. See that that little dot on the key next to the comma? It’s called the period and should be found more than twice in an entire paragraph of posting.