WND calls for secession for white people.

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business long term." ~ Lindsey GrahamSome days you roll out of bed and it’s just one of those days: the birds are singing, it’s 70 degrees outside, and Rick Santorum has joined the WorldNUTDaily which is now calling for a secessionist movement for white people.

Yesterday, WorldNetDaily announced that Rick Santorum will become a regular commentator for the conspiratorial “news” site. And now, the former U.S. Senator and presidential candidate will get to share space with other commentators like Vox Day, who today uses his column to call for a new secessionist political party to resist the growing numbers of racial minorities.

Day was writing about British Prime Minister David Cameron’s resistance to attempts by the Scottish National Party (SNP) for Scotland to leave the UK and a campaign by the UK Independence Party (UKIP) for the country to leave the European Union. He writes that the SNP and UKIP can serve as a model for “white Americans who still hold to traditional values” to start a new country and leave the U.S. He claims that whites have every reason to secede as the “English people and the Scottish people have far more in common than Americans do with the tens of millions of post-1965 immigrants from various non-European nations around the world,” whom he says are ruining America.

Right now there is a schism in the GOP.  There are those who want to win some elections by listening to the voters and becoming more moderate.  Those Republicans see the need to pick up ascendent voting blocks (like racial minorities and women) rather than relying almost exclusively on a voting block that is, frankly, dying.   They are, therefore, very aware of the need to keep the racism at the GOP’s core on the down low.

On the other side are the ones who want to double down on the crazy, and who are proud to be the party of fundamentalist racists.  To an extent, I can admire this group more (er, I can disrespect them less…).  They are at least honest, even if they’re honest because they’re too stupid to know this is a doomed strategy that will get beaten down severely time after time at the polls in the future.  I’m also grateful to them, since their honesty will make it difficult for the other, smaller group of politically savvy Republicans to lie about their outlooks on minorities, gays, women, etc.  The Republicans playing moderate will neither repudiate nor purge the racists, because their votes are too valuable.

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • Jeremy

    Ah, the good old WingNutDaily. I haven’t followed them in years, but it’s comforting to know that they’re still the same big bag of lunatic that they always were.

  • Otrame

    Funny. You don’t get much more melanin-deficient than I am unless you are an albino and I can’t think of anything more repugnant than an all-white country. How boring would that be? Still, if there was any unoccupied land around, I’d be happy for them to move there and make their own country. The albedo of the US would go down, but the IQ would go way up.

    • Silent Service

      Wouldn’t fix much. There are stupid people everywhere and of every type. These aprticular stupid people just happen to be in possitions of power for the moment.

      And I’d challenge you on that melanin-deficiency except that I have enough freckles to win the Opie Cunningham award.

    • Ik

      Please, please, internalized racism against white people is still internalized racism

      That said, the majority of people who would be interested in joining an all white country are probably pretty bad people, and definitely anybody who will talk about it openly is.

  • Sideshow_Bill

    They already have Idaho. What more do they need?

  • John Horstman

    I vote we let them go, then when they want to re-join the union after their corporate serf states fail miserably, we treat them as denaturalized immigrants as a sort of probationary period for the citizenship they opted out of. Something tells me that even without Blacks and Latinos to scapegoat, a sizable number STILL wouldn’t learn their lessons.

  • smrnda

    If these right wingers would actually bother to look at the politics of European nations, they’d realize that the type of people who they denounce as the ‘other’ with their ‘un-American values’ would be right at home in most European nations. I’d love it for these dinosaurs to secede – they only hold back the nation from progress, though I worry about people who might happen to be stuck living in these territories dominated by right wing white politicians who don’t fit their image of a proper American.

    Speaking of Scottish nationalism, I had a Scottish friend who said that, though historically the Scots have a legitimate gripe against the English, that secession would be horrible for them economically.

    • Silent Service

      Do you remember what apartheid looked like in South Africa? Better to keep the ignorant fecks here were we can keep an eye on them. They will demand that we let them take Nukes with them or something and they’re stupid enough to use them thinking that their godly whiteness will somehow save them.

  • baal

    While I’d like to be rid of the RWA (R) conservatives, I don’t think it’s a rational or viable solution. I could see them say all moving to Montana or somesuch. Once they do, it’ll rival Mississippi or Alabama for the most assbackwards harmful states to live in. Although, fracking’s destruction of water supplies might make it all moot issue. At the rate NY’s ground water is being polluted, there may be no States with drinkable well water.

    • Rovin’ Rockhound

      Not Montana! Montana is awesome! Don’t give them Glacier National Park, Yellowstone, awesome mountains, good skiing, wolves, bison….

      They can take Mississippi or Alabama. I don’t particularly care for either of those.

  • John Evans

    As a Canadian, you in the U.S.A. have my hopes that this blows over, and doesn’t reemerge every few years like the Quebec issue.

  • Loqi

    I’m actually cheering for them. The larger this secessionist party gets, the more they fracture the right.

  • eric

    Well, we already have reservations, which are sort of countries-within-a-country. Maybe there’s some sort of swap or immigration deal we can work. They pay the native americans to immigrate to their country. Or maybe the secessionists can work some sort of land swap: some nice big section of arable, developed land within the US given to the tribes, for a smaller amount of desert which is technically outside the US given to the secessionists.

  • Skjaere

    Wow. I guess some people are ignorant enough not to realise that a hefty percentage of the population in the UK and in Scotland are not white and/or are recent immigrants.

  • http://jw-thoughts.blogspot.com JW

    I gotta agree with your assessment of wnd. It is a wacko place for news and I see some Conservatives using it for some portion of their news. I find myself either ignoring these people or confronting them about why they are using such a cheap site for any news.

    btw, have you ever heard the term ‘Progressive Conservative’? I heard this not long ago and I wondered what type of person would be considered a Progressive Conservative.

    • Silent Service

      I would. There must be progress, but it should be a slow and steady progress. Progress run amok is as destructive as the stagnation that the Religious Right Conservatives advocate (demand might be a more appropriate term). The unfortunate reason is that most people have to be spoon-fed progress or they freak out. Even at our relatively slow progress now, the far right is having the political equivalent of an epileptic seizure at the idea of change. Too much change and the middle begin to freak out too; and then you lose them as they do something monumentally stupid, like vote for Mitt Romney. Admit it; you know a lot of normally very reasonable people that voted for Romney last month because they thought he sounded like a reasonable candidate. We all know people like that, who get squeamish at the idea of change.

      • Azkyroth

        Admit it; you know a lot of normally very reasonable people that voted for Romney last month because they thought he sounded like a reasonable candidate. We all know people like that, who get squeamish at the idea of change.

        And validating and encouraging them sounds like a good idea…why?

    • Hypatia’s Daughter

      The Progressive Conservatives are a national political party in Canada, the other major one being the Liberal Party. They are a conservative party but socially liberal (sort of like the Dems in the USA). Both have formed the federal government many times in the last century.
      I hear they have been shriveling up and are being replaced with a new conservative party that is a little more to the right (but I haven’t lived there for nearly 20 years and haven’t kept up with things).

  • http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason Miriam

    Oh, good, they can go make their own horrible country with only white people in it.

    But seriously, what the hell.

  • Skjaere

    Incidentally, you’ve linked to the wrong Vox Day column. I think this one is the one you meant:


    • RuQu

      Thank you. I started simultaneously laughing and raging at the stupidity of the other column headlines that it I eventually gave up looking for it.

  • Mark

    I’ve looked in the linked article and the actual column, and I cannot find this quote that was attributed to him the article: “white Americans who still hold to traditional values” to start a new country and leave the U.S. Does anyone know where it came from?
    I think we should sell these states to Mexico to pay for our national debt. I doubt they are worth much, though.

    • RuQu

      The fourth paragraph contains this:

      “for white Americans who still hold to traditional values, believe in their constitutional liberties and derive their sense of identity from historical America. ”

      The part about starting a new country is not part of that sentence, but is a summary of the point of the column.

  • Rufus

    I find the whole idea of the wingnuts using the SNP as an inspiration absolutely hilarious, especially as it, Plaid Cymru (the Welsh Nationalist party) and the Greens are by far the three parties furthest on the “left” of the political spectrum in the UK, the entire spectrum of which sits neatly on the left of the US. I can’t see that translating too well in the new state of Wingnuttia.

    • Ik

      Yeah, what’s up with that? Seems rather strange.

  • http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches Ed Brayton

    Okay, what’s the big idea? The Worldnutdaily is my turf, pal. I’m the one who searches it every morning when I wake up (okay, usually afternoon when I wake up) and points out all the stupid shit they say. Don’t make me smite you for horning in on my territory.

    • eric

      Don’t worry, they have more than enough crazy to go around.

    • Zinc Avenger (Sarcasm Tags 3.0 Compliant)

      Atheist fight! Gentlemen, draw your rapier wits. Take ten paces, turn, and deconstruct the other’s arguments!

  • RuQu

    Hold on, how did you miss some of the best parts of this column?

    “They mock the secessionist petitioners in Texas and other states, celebrate the infestation of even the smallest American heartland towns by African, Asian and Aztec cultures, and engage in ruthless doublethink as they worship at the altar of a false and entirely nonexistent equality.”

    I mean, come on, JT! If I hadn’t followed that link and read it myself, I’d have missed out on this gem of not evenly casually disguised racism. “Infestation” of the “American heartland” by non-whites….just openly describing them as vermin or insects. I mean, that’s just such a pure undiluted strain of racism it’s almost awe-inspiring. They then follow it up with openly saying that non-whites are not equal, not in practice as a matter of policy and social organization but that they, as vermin, are simply not a white man’s equal.

    The very next paragraph after using the Orwellian term “doublethink” reads this:
    “And yet, they are afraid and they threaten every American who dares to think the unthinkable and speak the unspeakable. Why? Because they know time, history and socionomics are not on their side.”

    Somehow they look back at the past century and decided that history was on the side of white superiority and pro-racism. And they accuse the pro-equality folks of doublethink…

    Later he contrasts “Americans” with “immigrants” and “their urban enablers,” thereby defining city-dwelling citizens as “not American.” Which is just fun, considering that America is a heavily urbanized country.

    It’s just such an awesome column, and I feel like you didn’t do it credit.

    • baal

      “Aztec cultures” ? What a bizarre word choice to refer to Mexicans. I have yet to see an alter to Huitzilopochtli on the town green let alone blood sacrifice or funky head gear. Details aside, RuQu is right, this is plain racism.

      You know who has joined WND? Rick Santorum. I guess we can expect Mitch McConnell to openly lead a chapter of the Klan at this rate.

      • Ik

        I’ve often sort of wondered how postmodernist cultural relativist Aztecs would fare, but I am reasonably sure nothing like that has been happening.