Cardinal asserts that child raping priests shouldn’t be punished.

I give up on satire for the rest of my life.  I couldn’t even make this shit up.

“If I – as a normal being – choose to break the law, knowing that I’m breaking the law, then I think I need to be punished.”

He said he knew at least two priests, who became paedophiles after themselves being abused as children.

“Now don’t tell me that those people are criminally responsible like somebody who chooses to do something like that. I don’t think you can really take the position and say that person deserves to be punished. He was himself damaged.”

I wonder what his stance would be if the parents of those two priests had been murderers.

So, rape children and you shouldn’t be punished, but if you’re born a human then you deserve eternal punishment by default.  Makes sense.

I actually agree with the Cardinal, technically.  Pedophilia is not criminal.  You can fantasize about raping children all you want and, yes, those people should get treatment.  However, when you start actually raping children, no matter how much you might want to and no matter the reason, you need to be prosecuted for it.  What you definitely don’t need is a pope (like, say, Joseph Ratzinger) shuffling you off to a new parish, enabling you to rape children again.

And what the church definitely doesn’t need is millions of Catholics turning a blind eye to that type of thing and worshiping Ratzinger as god’s vicar on earth, enabling the man (and the organization) shielding the rapists of children, all while turning up their noses at atheists as if we are the immoral ones.

Alright, Emmet.  Here’s your cue to exhibit more moral outrage that the church is being criticized than about the high-ranking members of the church attempting to excuse the rape of children…again.

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • Glodson

    He said he knew at least two priests, who became paedophiles after themselves being abused as children.

    That’s great. First, they are still child raping bastards. Second, it doesn’t mean that all child raping priests have that flimsy excuse. Third, it means that the Church has a moral responsibility to reduce the chances of a priest raping a child since the Cardinal seems to believe that such abuse creates pedophiles, which makes their failure to act even more damning.

    But it is also wrong. Being abused can raise the risk of expressing pedophila later in life, but the increase is relatively small.

    The analysis of self-reports confirmed that the proportion of pedophiles who report having been sexually abused in childhood by mature persons is larger than that of men who were not charged for or accused of a sex offense against a child though the difference is relatively small (28.6 vs. 13.9 and 10.7% for the heterosexual pedophiles and the two groups of gynephiles, respectively, and 25.9 vs. 11.8% for the homosexual pedophiles and androphiles, respectively).[emphasis added]

  • Glodson

    (Also, you have a typo in the last paragraph, cue…. not cute.)

  • http://smingleigh.wordpress.com Zinc Avenger (Sarcasm Tags 3.0 Compliant)

    You haven’t addressed the awe and majesty of the Catholic faith, and its incredible richness and wondrousness, and the many good things it does for humans, and that’s not how Catholicism works, and you haven’t quantified how many children have been raped. So there!

    • tubi

      Absolutely! A few blankets and a hot meal for a poor person far outweighs the fact that their son got buggered by the priest.

  • baal

    Criminal penalties can and do (and should!) attach when you do harm*. That’s irrespective of your personal history and mental issues. What happens to you after that point is open for discussion (treatment, incarceration, monitoring etc). That this cardinal arguing for us to trust the Church to prevent the harms these priest is untenable. The long history of cover-ups and re-offending means he has no credibility (even if we were to grant the Church an exemption from civil & criminal law).

  • James

    Is this the same catholic Church that has been banging on for years about moral relativism leading to all kinds of societal ills?

    This must be some of that “sophisticated theology” which the likes of me can’t really understand.

    • kagekiri

      Yeah…Christians’ main defense for all that slavery, genocide, and other massive and horrendous abuses of power is often “but, but, times were different and standards are different for God’s people!” And they often manage to say that in the same breath as “you atheists have no moral standards, it’s all relative!” without choking on it.

      It’s a miracle from heaven, well beyond human understanding. Screw speaking in tongues, that’s just weird babbling; this double-speak and bald-faced hypocrisy is much more dumb-founding and inexplicable.

      • Glodson

        This isn’t something that many Christians do, but I’ve got physics on my mind today… My favorite is to see some religious nuts try to say that Relativity is bad because it leads to moral relativism.

        I’m not joking about this.

    • Nox

      Not that hard to understand. When the church complains about “relativism” they mean “people not following the church’s orders”.

      For all their protests to the contrary, catholic theology is pretty unsophisticated.

  • Kevin

    Did he happen to provide names and jurisdictions of the two paedophiles that he knows so that someone can notify the appropriate authorities?

  • SparkyB

    Even if you believe that those child raping priests aren’t culpable for their actions because they were themselves abused (and I don’t), you still have a responsibility to prevent it from happening again, instead of sweeping it under the rug and enabling to do it somewhere else.

  • Randomfactor

    Were all the bishops who helped hide the predators from the law abused as well?

    • Glodson

      Yes.

      They were abused by all of us who expect them to watch out for the best interest of the children under their care. You know, all of us who expect the laws to be enforced equally to everyone and demand that men who rape be held accountable for their actions.

      We are so unreasonable when it comes to Catholicism!

  • Loqi

    To be fair, the way the kids were dressed totally gave implied consent. Why else would they wear their Sunday best if they weren’t looking for sex? Plus, they seduced the innocent priests who, because of their vows of celibacy, have no experience in resisting the charms of these young succubi.
    /Catholic rape apologist

    • Glodson

      To be fair, the way the kids were dressed totally gave implied consent. Why else would they wear their Sunday best if they weren’t looking for sex? Plus, they seduced the innocent priests who, because of their vows of celibacy, have no experience in resisting the charms of these young succubi.
      /Catholic rape apologist

      Just in case someone thinks this doesn’t happen… I give you this.

      The Rev. Benedict Groeschel, who made the remarks, is a beloved figure among many Catholics and a founder of Franciscan Friars of the Renewal, a conservative priestly order based in New York. He hosts a weekly show on the Eternal Word Television Network and has written 45 books.

      The comments were published on Monday by The National Catholic Register, which is owned by EWTN, a religious broadcaster based in Alabama.

      “Suppose you have a man having a nervous breakdown, and a youngster comes after him,” Father Groeschel, now 79, said in the interview. “A lot of the cases, the youngster — 14, 16, 18 — is the seducer.”

      He added that he was “inclined to think” that priests who were first-time abusers should not be jailed because “their intention was not committing a crime.”

      He did apologize for the statement, but he was also a councilor for priests sent to him by the archdiocese on accusations of pedophilia. Yeah…

  • invivoMark

    Based on your title, I agree with the Cardinal. That child who is raping priests should be encouraged, not punished. Serves those child-rapists right.


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