Thanks for the feedback, Peg.

More Catholic commenters.  Peg is displeased with my article about the KC Atheists getting barred from the St. Patty’s Day parade.

Well, to be annoying, that would “pedantic.”
And the notion that a bunch of heathens adopt my cultural heritage observation day to drink green beer, get drunk, and wear green is offensive to my sensibilities.

Do you presume to speak for everybody of Irish heritage?  I only ask because a lot of them use the day as an excuse to drink beer, get drunk, and to wear green.  If that’s offensive to your sensibilities, then you are perfectly free to celebrate the day by staying sober, watching Judge Judy, and wearing pastel pink.  No atheist will give a shit.

But the way we live our lives does not revolve around looking out for Peg’s sensibilities.  You are, of course, entitled to your sensibilities, but you’re a bit daft if you think your sensibilities should govern my life.

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  • OverlappingMagisteria

    I hope Peg doesn’t celebrate Christmas with mistletoe, holly, yule logs, etc. Otherwise she shouldn’t complain about adopting cultural heritage.

    • sqlrob

      Or celebrate Christmas in December for that matter.

      • Jasper

        I actually brought that up with my mother… but she fully acknowledges that this was likely done to smooth out incompatibilities during Roman times… but mysteriously she doesn’t seem to get the implications.

  • invivoMark

    I celebrated St. Patty’s Day by brewing a batch of beer! How’s that for adopting a culture?

    Actually, I guess the correct term would be inoculating a culture.

  • BionicWoman

    I’d also point out that over in Ireland, they don’t celebrate St. Patrick’s day. I’ve known a few people from Ireland who come over here and are confused. “We don’t do that in Ireland.”

    • IslandBrewer

      Well, actually they do, a bit. But it’s absolutely not like anything in the US. It’s still a predominantly religious observance, not particularly big or ostentatious. A church festival, and the participants in the observances wear St. Patrick’s blue. It’s kind of somber and boring.

      Oooh, update: I’ve read that recently there’s been a movement to make St. Patrick’s Day more a cultural celebration or Ireland. Concerning the theist resistance to this movement, I read this:

      “Christian leaders in Ireland have expressed concern about the secularisation of St Patrick’s Day. In The Word magazine’s March 2007 issue, Fr. Vincent Twomey wrote, “It is time to reclaim St Patrick’s Day as a church festival.” He questioned the need for “mindless alcohol-fuelled revelry” and concluded that “it is time to bring the piety and the fun together.”” -”More piety, fewer pints ‘best way to celebrate’”, The Irish Independent, 12 March 2007

      Time to bring piety and fun together! *snork!*

      Yes, a movement to get the Irish to drink less in celebration. Good luck with that.

  • Silent Service

    As an Irish American Atheist, I hear by declare that everybody can drink green beer and enjoy St Patti’s day.

  • Greg G.

    Everybody is Irish on St. Patrick’s Day. Everybody is Mexican on Cinco de Mayo. Everybody is Jedi on May the Fourth (be with you).

    • Marie the Bookwyrm

      If it were possible, I would upvote your post, Greg G. :)

    • Edmond

      EVERY day is Humanist Day!

  • John Horstman

    As a person of Celtic-German descent, I find the notion of the Irish adopting my cultural heritage at all to be entirely offensive to my sensibilities. Also, on behalf of the descendants of the Romans, I object to the widespread adoption of the Latin alphabet as a writing system for so many languages. Ditto for Arabic numerals.

    (No one owns ideas: not individuals, not groups. As absurd as I think intellectual property laws are, they look downright reasonable stacked up next to claims of cultural ownership or authenticity or purity.)

  • Artor

    As a person of Irish descent, I don’t celebrate St. Patrick’s Day. Instead, I observe it as a day of mourning for the destruction of a proud & ancient culture, one of many to be drowned in the ignorance & small-mindedness that is Xtianity.


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