Mark Shea…what’s good for the goose isn’t really good for the Catholic.

You know how Mark Shea and a few of his commenters came to my blog and left comments, then decided people weren’t responding to his comments quick enough and so he pitched a fit on his blog (even though I answered him once I got back home…we’ll see if he responds)?  You can go to that post right now and read those comments, even though they accused me of ducking the facts.  A person seeking the truth doesn’t shirk the statements of their detractors (and you’ll note how petty the Catholic interlocutors were, including Mark Shea – the comments remain).

Shea clearly views responding to such comments as not only the responsibility of the blog’s author, but also of the commenters.  He has, however, devised a solution that absolves himself and his readers of the same responsibility when the tables are turned: if you just delete detracting comments, there’s nothing to which you must respond!  At least he reacted faster than I, so good on him.

It’s pretty brilliant in a shifty, hypocritical, but still-want-to-pretend-he-has-the-moral-high-ground way.  Frankly, it’s fittingly Catholic.  No wonder he’s loved the last couple of Popes.

This was the whole point of my post at Mark.  There’s not a whole lot of consistency (read: fairness) going on with his behavior.  It scarcely bothers me at all (I’m actually happy to see religious bloggers acting like this), and I suspect it bothers Mark Shea even less.

  Deleting comments Mark? Tsk, tsk. Notice how your comments and the comments from your readers remain on my site. But hey, you reacted faster than I, so good on ya. ;) If I’d known I could’ve just deleted detracting comments and be done with it… …I still wouldn’t have done it. Glad I don’t take my moral cues from you or any Pope.  JT

Here’s a screen cap just in case.

Holy shit! This guy is hilarious. Behold, this comment:

The guy could have written me himself. But he didn’t. I feel no burning need to check his blog. So I linked your comment, Mr. Minion. Good enough for me.

God damn!  The guy demands a retraction and then doesn’t even read it.  What’s a well-intentioned atheist to do?

This is coming from the guy who wrote this post and expected me to read it.  And he won’t post a retraction or respond because I wrote a blog about it instead of messaging him directly.  If only I’d known I could’ve cited his blog post and said I won’t post a retraction because Mark didn’t message me directly.

I’ll bet Mark would’ve just nodded his head and said “fair point.”

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • Glodson

    Yea… Nothing like the idea of having a debate that is honest and fair about someone else’s position but when it is your own religious opinion, it is just fine to silence dissent.

    Hey, I don’t mind being wrong about the new pope, given that we based our position on evidence at hand, at the time. We had some, possibly, bad evidence. And then we took measures to correct this. That is how it should work.

    Let me know when the RCC starts addressing the child raping priests policies, reverses its position on gay marriage, contraception and abortion.

  • IslandBrewer

    And Now I’m unblocked. Either he has had a tinge of embarassment or … I can’t think of an “or” *sigh*

    Gah, teach me to waste my time, again.

    • IslandBrewer

      Nope, sorry. Blocked again. And he deleted the comment which made me assume I was unblocked.


  • Improbable Joe

    JT, you’re GOT to find a better class of opponent!

    • invivoMark

      When you choose to make Christian apologists your opponents, you tend not to find any better classes.

    • Artor

      If his opponents could reason better, they’d be atheists too.

  • jatheist

    What I want to know is – what will Mark Shea say (write) about his policy of blocking comment/commentors… will he deny it? Will he admit it and explain that they broke some imaginary commenting rule?

    My guess is that he won’t address it… because, surely, even he is embarassed!

    (For the record: I tried commenting at Shea’s blog a few weeks ago – the first comment got through but I was then blocked from further commenting.)

    • MountainTiger

      I’m not sure Shea is capable of feeling embarrassment. He certainly shows few signs of thought or introspection in his writing.

    • Brandon

      Oh, I’m sure he’s capable of inventing something self righteous in his head.

  • Art Vandelay

    Mark Shea…contemptible human being.

  • baal

    I took a step over to Mark’s blog (clicked the link). I almost turned right round again when I saw the first 2 comments were “oh those atheists are really angry and hateful aren’t they, tut tut.”

    • Azkyroth

      That sort of thing is really annoying, isn’t it?

      • BabyRaptor

        It doesn’t anger me. I just pity them. They *have to* talk shit about us, because it’s the only way they have to feel superior. They *have to* project their own behaviors onto us because if they actually owned up to them, they’d be uncomfortable.

        They’re immature children. Too afraid to own up to their own issues, they push them off on everyone else.

  • Rain

    He reminds me of an unfunny and mean version of Oliver Wendell Douglas from Green Acres, because he is such a “hots-head”. He probably hates “hots-cakes” and hears imaginary flutes playing in his head whenever he blogs something.

  • just someone ;)

    It figures. Mark Shea and his buddies have proven that they’re petty pisspots. Shame on them! I’ve yet to meet a single catholic that doesn’t prove themselves to be a careless hypocritical snob when push comes to shove. I’m sure there are exceptions, i don’t doubt it, but like i said, i haven’t met any.

  • Brandon

    Yeah, Shea blocked me and then proceeded to engage in about a half dozen comment engagement following a comment that was left up, gloating about something he seemed to feel victorious about. He’s really a reprehensible individual, but that’s evident from a quick reading of his blog, no need for interpersonal interaction to discover that.