No change on feminism and charitable priorities from Bergoglio.

Recall that under Pope Ratzinger many nuns were reprimanded for spending far too much time pursuing justice and caring for the poor.

The Vatican last year said in its doctrinal assessment that the nuns’ group was tinged with feminist influences, focused too much on ending social and economic injustice and not enough on stopping abortion, and permitted speakers at its meetings who questioned church doctrine.

Hold on…they listened to people who questioned church doctrine?  JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!  That could lead to education and understanding.  Nip that shit in the bud right now.

The nuns have continued to beseech the Church to re-examine its priorities.  Perhaps with a new pope, who we are told cares greatly for the poor, it might be possible.


Pope Francis has reaffirmed the reprimand of American nuns issued by his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, and endorsed the plan to have three bishops supervise an overhaul of the nation’s largest umbrella group of American nuns.

The announcement from the Vatican on Monday dashed the hopes of Catholic sisters and their supporters, who had hoped that the new pope might not want to meddle with women’s religious communities because of his experience in the Jesuits, a men’s religious order.

I know that reaction should depress me, but it’s just gotten to be old hat by now.  What really depressed me was the reaction of the nuns:

The nuns group said in a statement on Monday that its conversations at the Vatican were “open and frank,” and added, “We pray that these conversations may bear fruit for the good of the church.”

You want to spend more of your time caring for the poor?  You don’t need the Church’s permission!  If you are more compassionate than the Church, leave!  Stop supporting them.

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • Rain

    This is why I called him Francis the talking Pope when he became elected, I mean appointed by the baby Jesus. I knew he would turn out like this. There’s a reason why he named himself after an obvious con artist. It is because he is Francis the talking Pope.

  • Glodson

    See? This is a time when the religious could say “Hey, look, these nuns are doing good because of their religion!” Only they can’t, because their religion is actually impeding the nuns’ desire to do good.

    • Glodson

      Of course, it should be noted that the impetuous for doing good is likely the nuns’ own feelings of compassion and empathy rather than the dogmatic instructions of a shitty holy book.

      • Zinc Avenger (Sarcasm Tags 3.0 Compliant)

        Nuns are helping the poor? STFU and get back in the convent.

        • Imperious Dakar

          Its not that the Vatican objects to helping the poor.
          It just considers promoting proper (i.e. pro-Church, patriarchal, anti-contraception, etc.) doctrine a far higher priority.
          But the nuns are acting like serving the poor IS the priority, which upsets the (old) men in dresses very much. And when you add the fact that many of these nuns are also questioning patriarchal ideas and ideals on top of that, the nuns don’t appear to be acting like ‘good little girls’ at all, from the perspective of the male hierarchy.

  • Loqi

    Less time doing good, more time reflecting on the deep theological significance of the top-secret ritual handshake. Priorities are important, people!

    • Anonymous Atheist

      Now now, it’s the Mormons who have the top-secret ritual handshake. Catholics have the exclusive-but-not-secret ritual mock-cannibalism. ;)

      • Loqi

        Perhaps it’s just so secret that you haven’t heard about it! I certainly wouldn’t have pulled something silly out of my ass. I’m not the sarcastic type.

        Also, according to the church, that’s ritual *real* cannibalism.

        • John Horstman

          Anthropotheophagy – eating of a man-god?