Arguing with people makes a difference (156).

This is the 156th such email I have received and will be saving.  Name withheld.

Hey JT, I remember trying to argue with you about good Christians vs bad Christians a few years ago. I’ve really done a 180 since that time. I have read your blogs and read your parents posts. I’m coming around to thinking as you all do. Religion is evil and instead of trying to defend it as a hated gay man, I’m learning how to let go of my indoctrination.

Don’t think that because change takes time that we never change anybody’s mind.

  • Glodson

    Well, some people make a difference. I just snark at people until they go away.

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.duncan.1048 David Duncan

      even a snark can change minds. keep snarking!

  • Ibis3

    Don’t think that because change takes time that we never change anybody’s mind.

    Exactly! That’s what I always say when the accommodationists decry the firebrand approach, especially when they cite the studies about how defensive people get when their views are aggressively challenged. People may appear to be extremely attached to the positions they’re defending, but underneath the surface, the underpinnings are being eroded bit by bit. Eventually, the whole thing can just cave in like a sinkhole. Those studies never take this phenomenon into account.

    • Nate Frein

      The firebrand approach also does a good job of shaking off the “someone else’s problem field” that can surround civil rights issues.

    • baal

      ” Those studies never take this phenomenon into account” I disagree but just as soon as you link to those studies, I’ll find the part where they do take into account a number of factors. Science is like that.

  • Reginald Selkirk

    It’s a trap!

  • Rain

    His dad needs a blog. Facebook is fine, but I ain’t on it. Everyone should base their multimedia decisions on whether or not I’m on it.

    • Rain

      P.S. why the hell is google+ looking so crappy these days? What could they possibly be thinking? Worse than youtube. The google internets used to be a nice place. WTF google! No need to impress us with your convoluted coding skills. We get it. Good grief.

      • Rain

        Youtube actually had me circled on google+ once. Then I fumbled it and uncircled them from me somehow. That was the highlight of my entire career. THUS FAR. I reiterate: THUS FAR. Okay enough off-topic replying to myself, for now…

  • Spencer Hawkins

    JT, my story is very similar. we met at MSU, prolly when brother Jed was doing his thing and we got to talking. 4 years later im a proud atheist, and while i don’t give all the credit to you for my deconversion (a lot of that was me :D ), you made me start thinking about what it was i believe. For that, you will always have a special place in my heart.


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