Minnesota lawmaker’s heart breaks because of gay marriage.

Who is the real victim in the gay marriage debate?  You may think it’s the gays who are afforded fewer rights than straights, but have you thought about the straight people like Rep. Peggy Scott of Minnesota who might actually have to…y’know…look at gay people?  Probably not, you fascist.

Look at what the upcoming pro-equality legislation in Minnesota is doing to poor Peggy’s heart:

“My heart breaks for Minnesota,” Rep. Peggy Scott told the Star-Tribune:

“It’s a divisive issue that divides our state,” she said, wiping tears from her eyes as she stood on the House floor after the vote. “It’s not what we needed to be doing at this time. We want to come together for the state of Minnesota, we don’t want to divide it.”

Scott belongs to a non-denominational Christian evangelical church that believes the Bible was written directly by God, believes in the Rapture, and believes everyone is a sinner by choice.

Oh Peggy, you don’t want the state to be divided?  Ok.  You and your ilk can just accept equality and we’ll all be united.

Oh…you wanted to unite the state by uniting against an appreciable portion of its citizens?  Um, that’s a bad way to unite the whole state.  Methinks “we need unity” is Republican code for “shut the fuck up”.

No.

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • Glodson

    If granting equal protection under the law to all people in your state is dividing your state, your state has a major problem. And it isn’t with the people seeking equality for everyone.

  • Silent Service

    I have no problem dividing the country. We can divide it between vile bigots that want to oppress any portion of society and the rest of us. Wait, we already do that. It is called Red States and Blue States. Sorry Peggy, you live in a Blue state. You’ll have to move to North or South Dakota as the closest bigot controlled states. We will gladly exchange you for any and all reasonable freedom loving Americans trapped in your new Red State home.

    • Glodson

      If Nate Silver is correct with his projections regarding the acceptance of gay marriage, there won’t be many states left for bigots to seek refuge in.

      It is the older demographics in all states that tend to be opposed to gay marriage. As the groups get younger, the rate of acceptance increases. Meaning that in time, there will be less voters to oppose equality. In all states. Making a platform that includes a stance against gay marriage a bad idea.

      If these trends hold, then by 2020, only 6 states will have an acceptance rate of less than 50%. And of those 6, four will be at around 48-49%.

      This issue is decided. The other side just hasn’t realized it yet. Hell, we can already see the GOP trying to bend on this issue nationally, as well as with immigration. But their no-compromise stands have had an effect on their voter base.

      • http://www.facebook.com/park.james.102 Park James

        In forty years we’ll be listening to the next generation of Sean Hannitys telling us that the legalization of gay marriage would not have been possible without the extreme conservative republicans and Christians. Just like they do now on civil rights.

        • Glodson

          The only good thing is that we’ll have even more video evidence of this being lies.

          Too bad that these messages aren’t meant to sway people, but rather to make the conservative Christian feel better in the lie.

          • Compuholic

            That wont help given the talent of religious people to ignore the incredibly obvious. They will always pick the instances were a believer said something nice and sensible and ignore all the other instances.

            If you ask them if religion is a force for peace in the word they will say yes. And although even just a quick look at the history of civilisation says otherwise they will find a few examples where it has worked.

            If you ask them if religion has fostered scientific progress they will say yes even if it is crystal clear to everybody on the outside that religion has always impeded progress when science was questioning one of the tenets of religious faith.

            Needless to say that in every single case it was always science that won. But again you will find religious people who claim that science and religion are only two sides of the same coin when it is most obvious to any sane person that they are not.

            So even if we have all the video evidence in the world it won’t be enough because religious people make their own reality.

  • Glodson

    From the Star Tribune piece linked in the original article:

    Rep. Glenn Gruenhagen, R-Glencoe, said he fears that schools will
    eventually be forced to teach students about homosexuality in sex
    education classes, normalizing what he considers deviant behavior.

    “Thinks about what’s best for the children,” Gruenhagen said. “Please vote for the children.”

    Rep. Kelby Woodard, R-Belle Plaine, said the measure sends a terrible message to Minnesotans who oppose same-sex marriage.

    “We are classifying half of Minnesotans as bigots in this bill — and they are not,” Woodard said.
    Rep. Tony Cornish, R-Vernon Center, said he was raised by a mother
    and a father and continues to believe that is best for children, but “I
    am not a homophobe or a Neanderthal or a hater.”

    Scott has a lot of backwards company. Yes, think about the children. The children of homosexual couples(they have them, by adoption or surrogates or even previous relationships). The children dealing with their sexuality in the light of elected representatives that consider them deviants because of their sexuality. Think of the children growing up who will learn there’s nothing wrong with being gay, or bi, or trans, or asexual, or anything else and have a healthy respect for the lifestyles of others.

    And it sends the right message to those who oppose gay marriage. You are wrong and you are a bigot. Period. Change, or shut the fuck up.

    And Cornish, you are one third right. You aren’t a Neanderthal, and I wouldn’t slander the Neanderthals by including you with them. Sadly, you are a member of the Homo Sapiens, and I’ll just have to deal with that.

    • http://www.facebook.com/park.james.102 Park James

      Whatever you do, don’t read the comments in the original story. Holy fuck there are some terribly ignorant people commenting there.

      • Glodson

        I can already imagine.

  • Matthew Ostergren

    Hopefully, MN citizens will see through her crocodile tears. It’s shameful that politicians can get away with this and still be taken seriously.

  • baal

    “We want to come together for the state of Minnesota, we don’t want to divide it.” Peggy today. Yeah, well, Peggy was one of the MN legislators who introduced the MN constitutional amendment to make illegal SSM in MN. That act polarized the State and made it clear politically that the state law against SSM in MN could be abolished politically. Without her efforts, I doubt we’d have the votes to overturn the state law level ban. So be careful how you make your dreams come true, it could backfire.

    FWIW, she’s a scary RWA lady and has also offered a state constitutional amendment to prevent Obamacare.

    • Stev84

      The typical combination of irony immunity and Christian Martyr Complex

  • Beutelratti

    You know, sometimes I wish politicians here were as openly ridiculous when it comes to marriage equality. Just imagining saying Mrs. Merkel saying something like that instead of the “We have to wait, we have to be careful, blahblahblah.” gives me the tingles. She’d be rightfully ridiculed for the bigot she really is.

    Argh. Someone said this in another thread recently, but I really wish social progress would hurry up already!

  • http://www.facebook.com/park.james.102 Park James

    This is the fight these assholes wanted. Repubs in MN had a majority in the house and senate in 2011-2012, and did everything in their power to ensure that we got a statewide vote on a constitutional amendment that would make gay marriage illegal. Then they lost that vote, and largely because the anti gay bullshit was on the ballot in the first place, they lost their majorities in the house and senate. Now, after picking a fight (only because they thought they could win it – fucking bullies) and getting their ass beat, they think that it’s all moving to fast. Well, they can go straight to hell.

    • Glodson

      Of course they wanted it. They thought they would win. They live in epistemic closure. Look at the last election when the writing was on the wall for all to plainly see.

      They still didn’t see it.

      I don’t believe that they can change. They are stuck, they have bought and sold these ideas that even suggesting otherwise breaks the spell.

    • http://www.facebook.com/andrew.kohler.338 Andrew Kohler

      I am certain that this Peggy Scott person was just as lachrymose about “divisiveness” when the anti-gay measure–i.e., her own position–was on the ballot.

      [End sarcasm.]

      I find the most irritating aspect of her disingenuous lamentation of “divisiveness” to be that the division already existed prior to the marriage equality legislation being debated in the House of the Minnesota legislature. It’s not like they created a controversial issue out of thin air, and it’s not like legislative inaction would make it conveniently disappear. What absurd remarks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-W-Busch/578120211 Michael W Busch

    Scott belongs to a non-denominational Christian evangelical church that believes the Bible was written directly by God

    Wait. “written directly by God” ? Not “written by people who were stricken with divine inspiration” ? If so, why is the StarTrib giving her a pass on believing something that is provably false?

    • Stev84

      There is nothing you can’t get away with if you “sincerely” or “deeply” believe in religious nonsense

  • Lillynyx

    I sincerely hope none of these bigots come up for a visit to Canada…I don’t think our socialized health care would be able to cope with all the nervous breakdowns that equality might cause.

  • Baby_Raptor

    It’s the fault of people like her that the country is so divided. If they could just accept the fact that the Constitution means *everyone* gets to live by their own beliefs, and that the government has to respect that, then there wouldn’t be any issues.

    That she has the balls to actually cry over this is…sickening. Just sickening.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-W-Busch/578120211 Michael W Busch

      the Constitution means *everyone* gets to live by their own beliefs, and that the government has to respect that

      Obligatory caveat: Except when those beliefs unduly infringe on the rights of others.

  • http://allweathercyclist.blogspot.com/ JethroElfman

    I have to agree with Peggy that fighting over this is not what they should be doing. Here in Canada a couple of election cycles ago, the #1 issue was childcare (The liberals wanted publicly funded daycare and lost big). How about that for an issue? How about the economy? When you finally give up arguing over these things that above all else are religious issues, then government can get on with things that matter and make a difference.

    • http://www.facebook.com/andrew.kohler.338 Andrew Kohler

      Now if only Peggy would follow that advice herself….

  • Medea Ginger Hertz

    For anyone still following this thread; this afternoon, the senate in Minnesota passed the Gay marriage bill!!!

    • Gehennah

      Awsome, now to get it signed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Spade/100003332161128 Sam Spade

    I sympathize with Peggy Scott and others who are seeing their nation coming apart at the seams. All this tripe about ‘equality’ is merely a smokescreen to hide the real intent of homosexual activism. Marriage is essentially between one man and one woman for the procreation and raising of children for the continuation of society. Yet children are being used as mere pawns in a cutlure war ignited by 3.8% of the population who think that all the rules should be changed just to accommodate their shrill, self-centered demands disguised as “civil rights.”

    Same sex “marriage” is an oxymoron, a nonsense term that has been plucked out of the air, promoted tirelessly by angry homosexuals, activist judges and left-leaning politicians who think nothing of prostrating themselves before special interest groups just for votes. The nonsense term, “homophobia” would be hilarious if it wasn’t so tragic. “Homo” means ‘man,’ and ‘phobia’ is a fear of something. The actual term we should be using is “sodomphobia,” but I digress. When we stop talking about a homophobic society, and start talking about a tiny minority group of angry, shrill, narcissistic, hate-filled, self-centered, never satisfied heterophobes who are determined to redefine society on THEIR terms, then we are getting closer to the truth.

    However, the current euphoria over same sex “marriage” won’t last long, regardless of what SCOTUS may or may not decide to do in June. Those nations where same sex marriage is legal has seen very few GBLTs actually tie the knot, so their hard won “right’ was just a smokescreen to demolish the last heterosexual tradition that excluded queers. In Canada, one year after same sex marriage was legalized in 2005, only one same sex wedding was performed in Toronto, Ontario, home to the biggest GBLT population in the country. And in those nations where GBLTs rights are fully protected (like Canada & Denmark etc.,), they still suffer from a higher percentage of addiction probems, deep rooted psychological problems issues and shortened lifespans.

    So lets look at some facts. According to the Center for Disease Control & Prevention, msm (men who have sex with men) are not only the highest risk group for HIV/AIDS in the USA, but 61% are already infected. Worse still, another one-third are also infected, but won’t know it until they become chronically sick. Given the rampant promiscuity amoung homosexual and bisexual men, just how long will it be before the HIV/AIDS rate hits 90% or more among them? They already make up 80% of all HIV/AIDS cases in the country. Indeed, how many others have been infected and continue to (knowingly or unknowingly) infect others? Other health problems include anal cancer, which is increasing among msm by up to 3% per annum, and anal gonorrhoea is now at epidemic levels in San fransisco. Going back to 2006, the CDC stated that more than 82% of all known sexually-transmitted AIDS cases for that year were the result of male-to-male sexual contact. Moreover, homosexual and bisexual men account for more than 60% of all syphilis cases in the entire country.

    And yes, homosexuals and lesbians DO have shorter life spans than
    heterosexuals, even those in commited “monogamous” relationships. Homosexuals live on average 13.5 years less than heterosexual men, and smoking, on average, reduces life span by seven years. Since we are trying to discourage smoking, why are we endorsing homosexuality as a “normal” lifestyle to the point of changing the marriage laws to accommodate them, knowing full well that the majority of GBLTs will continue to engage in rampant sexual pronmiscuity withjout the slightest intent of getting hitched? How many gays and lesbians over 65 do you know? How many of them actually get past 80?

    Just asking.

    And to those who say that “religious people are wrong,” well that depends on the religion now, doesn’t it? Nazism and communism killed more people in the 20th century alone than all the religious wars throughout history. Besides, Stalin and Hitler murdered tens of thousands of homosexuals in their Gulags and concentration camps, and it is a historical fact that Hitler and many of his inner circle of psychopathic nazi fanatics were homosexuals themselves.

    If the HIV/AIDS rate and other diseases continues to rise among America’s homosexual & bisexual population, there will be precious few of them left in 30 years time to tie the knot, adopt kids, or even march along in their “pride” parades. Just Google ‘homosexual diseases.’ You will be horrified at what you see. Just how many more young men must die in fear and agony out of the media spotlight, so that a few disgusting activists can keep up the charade of being “proud and gay?”

    Those of you in here who are quick to brand Christians as bigots, haters, homophobes, and other cheap insults, will find yourselves being contronted by a much more intolerant and angry religion in America. Its called Islam. In the UK, books promoting same sex relationships aimed at young kids in public schools are being withdrawn in the light of growing complaints from Muslim parents. The East London Pride Parade was cancelled out of fear of inflaming tensions with the local Muslim community, and 90% of gay bars and clubs have shut down due to the growing Muslim population in Britain’s capital city. One such pub, the George & Dragon, was invaded by a group of 30 or so young Muslim men, who smashed up the interior and attacked patrons, shouting anti-gay slurs and threats. Tower Hamlets, a London borough, is literally shut down regularly for open air prayers by the largely Muslim population, and the once thriving gay community there has all but vanished. In Amsterdam, once the most liberal city in Europe, gays are targeted on the streets by gangs of Muslim youths. All over Europe and the UK, Muslim populations are slowly but surely beginning to eradicate Europe’s open tolerance towards GBLTs.

    Bruce Bawer, a gay American author, can attest first hand to this dark cultural shift. Just go to Deerborn, Michigan, and ask the biggest Arab-Muslim population in the country what they think of gay rights and same-sex marriage. Not all Muslims are hostile of course, but show me any country in the Middle East (apart from Israel) or Africa (apart from South Africa), where gays are even tolerated, never mind protected. And it isn’t going to change anytime soon.

    Believe me, Christians are the least of your problems, but I’m sure you find that out one day – when its too late.

    • Zinc Avenger

      Here’s the thing. A secular country is not Islamic OR Christian. So we’ll keep this country secular, you just go back to muttering about the Mooslamics under your bed. Oh, and you’re a bigot. Fuck you.

    • Glodson

      I sympathize with Peggy Scott and others who are seeing their nation
      coming apart at the seams. All this tripe about ‘equality’ is merely a
      smokescreen to hide the real intent of homosexual activism. Marriage is
      essentially between one man and one woman for the procreation and
      raising of children for the continuation of society. Yet children are
      being used as mere pawns in a cutlure war ignited by 3.8% of the
      population who think that all the rules should be changed just to
      accommodate their shrill, self-centered demands disguised as “civil
      rights.”

      Bullshit. This is pure bullshit. This is about equality. Marriage is not about procreation. If it were, then why do couples who don’t want children get married? Why do we let people who are sterile get married? Why do we let women after menopause get married? They cannot have children by procreation. What about surrogates for gay men? What about artificial insemination for lesbians? What about gay couples who adopt? What about the benefits of being married that provide protection to spouses? Why are people denied access to those because of their sexuality?

      And if we are just letting a small portion of the nation marry their partners, what does it matter? What will the possible marriages of a population less than 3.8% of the nation do to destabilize the American family that the nearly 50% rate of divorce won’t?

      This is a civil rights issue as a segment of people are denied equal protection under the law.

      Same sex “marriage” is an oxymoron, a nonsense term that has been
      plucked out of the air, promoted tirelessly by angry homosexuals,
      activist judges and left-leaning politicians who think nothing of
      prostrating themselves before special interest groups just for votes.
      The nonsense term, “homophobia” would be hilarious if it wasn’t so
      tragic. “Homo” means ‘man,’ and ‘phobia’ is a fear of something. The
      actual term we should be using is “sodomphobia,” but I digress. When we
      stop talking about a homophobic society, and start talking about a tiny
      minority group of angry, shrill, narcissistic, hate-filled,
      self-centered, never satisfied heterophobes who are determined to
      redefine society on THEIR terms, then we are getting closer to the
      truth

      The fuck? Scare quote around marriage. Well, we know how you feel about the gay people. Imagine the nerve of them expecting you to treat them like people with rights that the law will have to respect. Can’t have that. Your digression is stupid. The etymology of a term goes beyond the components of root words. Besides, even straight people like a little sodomy. All the best porn includes this. Seriously, look it up. Google is good for more than getting the root words of a composite word which describes you very well.

      And I notice you want to flip the script. There are gay people who do fear, and maybe even hate, straight people. It is hard for me to grudge them this fact given the disparity of power between straight people and gay people. Given that one can be assaulted for being gay, just for being different. Subject to bullying. By toads like you.

      Finally, you do know that the rate of acceptance of gay marriage is nearly 50%, and close to 70% for the younger demographics. Many people don’t care. These aren’t leftists, activist judges(the most useless term ever as it only serves to describe people who you disagree with). Hell, we are seeing conservatives come out for it. Why? Because this acceptance is growing rapidly.

      So lets look at some facts. According to the Center for Disease Control
      & Prevention, msm (men who have sex with men) are not only the
      highest risk group for HIV/AIDS in the USA, but 61% are already
      infected. Worse still, another one-third are also infected, but won’t
      know it until they become chronically sick. Given the rampant
      promiscuity amoung homosexual and bisexual men, just how long will it be
      before the HIV/AIDS rate hits 90% or more among them? They already make
      up 80% of all HIV/AIDS cases in the country. Indeed, how many others
      have been infected and continue to (knowingly or unknowingly) infect
      others? Other health problems include anal cancer, which is increasing
      among msm by up to 3% per annum, and anal gonorrhoea is now at epidemic
      levels in San fransisco. Going back to 2006, the CDC stated that more
      than 82% of all known sexually-transmitted AIDS cases for that year were
      the result of male-to-male sexual contact. Moreover, homosexual and
      bisexual men account for more than 60% of all syphilis cases in the
      entire country.

      Irrelevant scare-mongering. I’m not even going to bother vetting your words as the transmission of disease in any instance of anal sex is the highest rate, for man to man, or man to woman. This has more to do with the nature of the sex, not the sexuality. And the lowest rate of transmission is between lesbians.

      This has fuck all to do with anything.

      And yes, homosexuals and lesbians DO have shorter life spans than
      heterosexuals,
      even those in commited “monogamous” relationships. Homosexuals live on
      average 13.5 years less than heterosexual men, and smoking, on average,
      reduces life span by seven years. Since we are trying to discourage
      smoking, why are we endorsing homosexuality as a “normal” lifestyle to
      the point of changing the marriage laws to accommodate them, knowing
      full well that the majority of GBLTs will continue to engage in rampant
      sexual pronmiscuity withjout the slightest intent of getting hitched?
      How many gays and lesbians over 65 do you know? How many of them
      actually get past 80?

      Just asking.

      JAQing off, as you note. Irrelevant, and if we consider the rates of violence, the stress, and the suicide rates of gay people due to cultural pressures, these numbers make sense. This entire JAQing off paragraph is again pointless, as the possible lifespan of a person is irelevant.

      And I know at least two gay men over 65. George Takei and his partner. Oh my.

      People like you kept him from being out. People like you didn’t want him to marry his partner. People like you think you have a say in his life. People like you want to justify your intolerance. None of this justifies any bigotry, and some of it is explained by ignorance and bigotry.

      The treatment of gay people over decades has had an effect. Ignoring human sexuality has had an effect. And it is entirely without merit in this discussion. This is a red herring meant to hide the fact that you want to right to dictate that some people should not be allowed to marry.

      And to those who say that “religious people are wrong,” well that
      depends on the religion now, doesn’t it? Nazism and communism killed
      more people in the 20th century alone than all the religious wars
      throughout history. Besides, Stalin and Hitler murdered tens of
      thousands of homosexuals in their Gulags and concentration camps, and it
      is a historical fact that Hitler and many of his inner circle of
      psychopathic nazi fanatics were homosexuals themselves.

      Paging Dr Godwin. And citation needed for Hitler and his inner circle being gay. That I want to see. I’m morbidly curious.

      Not that it matters, it is poisoning the well. In fact, the fact that homosexuals were murdered for being gay kind of shows the need for equal protection of homosexuals.

      And no shit that not all religious people are wrong on this issue. Some are right. Some are good with it. Some want to marry gay people. Some have no problem with it. They are wrong about their religion, but right about this.

      We are talking about opponents of gay marriage. There’s a heavy overlap of religiosity and opposition to gay marriage, but these are distinct categories.

      If the HIV/AIDS rate and other diseases continues to rise among
      America’s homosexual & bisexual population, there will be precious
      few of them left in 30 years time to tie the knot, adopt kids, or even
      march along in their “pride” parades. Just Google ‘homosexual diseases.’
      You will be horrified at what you see. Just how many more young men
      must die in fear and agony out of the media spotlight, so that a few
      disgusting “celebrities” can keep up the charade of being “proud and
      gay?”

      Yes, how many young men die out of fear as they are beaten for being gay? How many transexuals fear being attacked for being who they are? How many are bullied into silence? How many hide who they are out of fear of their peers? How many have to die?

      And fuck right off with this fearmongering fatalism.

      From the CDC:

      Homophobia, stigma, and discrimination can put MSM at
      risk for multiple physical and mental health problems and affect
      whether MSM seek and are able to obtain high-quality health services.
      Negative attitudes about homosexuality can lead to rejection by
      friends and family, discriminatory acts, and bullying and violence.
      These dynamics may make it difficult for some MSM to be open about
      same-sex behaviors with others, which can increase stress, limit
      social support, and negatively affect health.

      You are the fucking problem. Yes, there is an inherent increase in risk of transmission of STDs, but you act like they’ll all be dead. Ignoring that we’ve had a steady population of gay people. If we address the problems, the symptoms will be cleared up. Helping people feel comfortable with who they are will go a long away to increasing the quality of life for gay people.

      Not that you give a shit about that.

      Those of you in here who are quick to brand Christians as bigots,
      haters, homophobes, and other cheap insults, will find yourselves being
      contronted by a much more intolerant and angry religion in America. Its
      called Islam. In the UK, books promoting same sex relationships aimed at
      young kids in public schools are being withdrawn in the light of
      growing complaints from Muslim parents. The East London Pride Parade was
      cancelled out of fear of inflaming tensions with the local Muslim
      community, and 90% of gay bars and clubs have shut down due to the
      growing Muslim population in Britain’s capital city. One such pub, the
      George & Dragon, was invaded by a group of 30 or so young Muslim
      men, who smashed up the interior and attacked patrons, shouting anti-gay
      slurs and threats. Tower Hamlets, a London borough, is literally shut
      down regularly for open air prayers by the largely Muslim population,
      and the once thriving gay community there has all but vanished. In
      Amsterdam, once the most liberal city in Europe, gays are targeted on
      the streets by gangs of Muslim youths. All over Europe and the UK,
      Muslim populations are slowly but surely beginning to eradicate Europe’s
      open tolerance towards GBLTs.

      Dumbass, we know that not all Christians are screaming bigots, and not all screaming bigots are Christians.

      And now you act like some champion for gay people despite the horrible shit you’ve been spewing. This is disingenuous. This is a tu quoque which is meant to deflect blame by saying “oh yea, well, they are worse.” Don’t care as they aren’t the majority in this country. So, this is entirely irrelevant to this discussion about Gay marriage and the reaction in this country and Minnesota.

      I cannot find your story anywhere to vet it. So, produce the link so we can read it. It is possible, but it doesn’t matter. As I can post about Christians who beat gay people. And post Christians who push hate speech. And Christians who attack gay people for being gay. It isn’t that Christianity is the only source, or that all Christians are like this, in this country. It is that Christianity is the driving source for this in this country.

      Believe me, Christians are the least of your problems, but I’m sure you find that out one day – when its too late.

      Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! You know that the irreligion is growing rapidly, right? We aren’t any more open to the ideas of Islam. It is a brutal religion. Just like Christianity.

      I cannot believe I read that entire posting of drivel.

      Edit: Had to fix my broken link.

      • Glodson

        And just to be sure to get this out there… I know most spotted the bullshit, but the most recent data I have puts the infection rate of gay men at about 1 in 5. Source.

        The study tested more than 8,000 men in 21 cities in 2008, making it the
        most comprehensive such research by the CDC. It found that young,
        sexually active gay men and those in minority groups are least likely to
        know their health status, even as infection rates are climbing among
        men who have sex with men, while the rates of other at-risk groups –
        heterosexuals and intravenous drug users – are falling.

        I guess we could just try and encourage sexually active people to be more comfortable in getting testing, and not use AIDS as a tool with which to strike fear into people. I guess we could do that, and try to encourage more testing.

        Or we can just be a jackass and try to use this to justify discrimination.

        Tough call.

        (Not really)

        • Zinc Avenger

          Glodson, I sincerely admire your ability to read an entire screed like that and compose a response that doesn’t consist of “FUCK YOU” spammed over and over and over again. When I grow up, I want to be like you.

        • Zinc Avenger

          Glodson, I sincerely admire your ability to read an entire screed like that and compose a response that doesn’t consist of “FUCK YOU” spammed over and over and over again. When I grow up, I want to be like you.

    • islandbrewer

      Your foil hat is pretty snug there, and may be cutting off precious circulation. You may want to loosen it.

    • indorri

      You iridescent piece of shit. You rail against calling you bigots and then try the old “the Nazis were evil, evil queers!” line on us?

      Fuck off. When ravenous religious fanatics from another religion become the majority, we will deal with them. Right now, we are dealing with you.


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