Scott Lively charged with crimes against humanity for “kill the gays bill”. Charges won’t be dropped.

Do you know Scott Lively?  He’s a preacher in Massachusetts and a real charmer and boy, does he ever hate gay people.  You know the new laws in Russia that make talking about homosexuality to young people a crime?  He has tried to take credit for those laws.  He thinks gay wedding songs were what rightly motivated god to kill virtually every human being.  He thanked god for the death of 18 people when a strip club was destroyed in a massive explosion because he had prayed to god for it to happen (it should be noted that 15 of the deceased were firefighters and service workers with no connection to the strip club).  In essence, Lively was taking credit for the explosion because he entreated god for it.

The most recent horror for which Lively has claimed at least partial responsibility is the Uganda “kill the gays” bill (and the Ugandan government has confirmed it).  He claimed to have helped Uganda draft the bill and praised it, calling Uganda a model for the civilized world to follow.  Ironically, this was due in large part to Lively’s claims that homosexuals are dangerous because they have genocidal tendencies.  His solution to this problem, apparently, is genocide.

But it turns out that genocide is a no-no under international law, and while Lively might be off the hook the paradise of Uganda, in the United States you kind of have to follow the no genocide laws.  So a suit was brought against Lively for crimes against humanity:

Lively is accused of violating international law by inciting the persecution of LGBT individuals in Uganda. The lawsuit was filed by the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) on behalf of Sexual Minorities of Uganda (SMUG) in 2012.

His lawyers attempted to get the federal judge presiding over the suit to dismiss it.  That judge just said that won’t happen:

A federal judge on Wednesday denied a motion to dismiss a crimes against humanity case brought against evangelical pastor Scott Lively of Massachusetts.

But Lively is on to his accusers.  They’re not bringing the suit because they think killing people for who they love en masse is barbaric, but because they are conspiring against Lively:

Lively has denied that he conspired with government officials or religious leaders in Uganda to craft specifics of the legislation. He has said the lawsuit against him “boils down to nothing more than an attempt to define my Biblical views against homosexuality as a crime.”

“Clearly, this lawsuit is intended not only to silence me as an effective voice of opposition to the ‘gay’ agenda, it is also to intimidate everyone else who would dare to follow my example,” he wrote on his blog last year.

No, you can have your biblical views against homosexuality…you just can’t kill or otherwise harm people over them.

And the bill was intended to silence Lively? He said all kinds of lunatic things up until he boasted of helping a nation draft genocidal legislation.  But he’s right, the genocide thing is probably just a handy excuse to shut him up.

And the real irony?  Lively’s assertions about those who think he’s committed crimes against humanity, grotesquely lunatic though they are, are still way more believable than the miracle stories of the bible.

  • EvolutionKills

    I would love to be there in the court when they present his blog as evidence for his bragging about helping Uganda pass the bill, after he denies it in his deposition. I’m not sure we can throw the books at him hard enough, he seems supremely vile.

  • YesDavisIsMyFirstName

    I’m glad some form of justice appears somewhere in this world. I honestly just cannot comprehend a “kill the Gays” bill. for one, if you already think they are going to hell, wouldn’t you at least try to make this life comfortable for them? why make both this life AND the next terrible.

    • invivoMark

      ‘Cuz the Good Book says to.

      Really, we’re being kind by just killing them. The Good Book says specifically to kill them by restraining them and then throwing small stones at their heads until their skulls eventually cave in.

      What a good book! Source of all morality, really.

  • Azkyroth

    Cue pissing and moaning on a handful of libertarian-inflected blogs (*cough*Dispatches*cough*) about how horrible people should never have to face any consequences for being horrible.

    • Artor

      Seriously? You have some severe reading comprehension problems if you think Ed Brayton of any of the regular commenters on his blog would do anything but cheer for Lively’s ignominious downfall.

  • SansDeus

    Sexual Minorities of Uganda (SMUG)

    They really should have thought of something with a different acronym.

  • Gehennah

    I really can’t wait to see him tried, convicted, and hopefully thrown in jail.

  • John Gallstone

    In most places, whackos like this would be ignored and left to drool on the sidewalk. Except in the US where people seem to enjoy elevating, discussing and celebrating sociopathy.

    • ganner

      You don’t ignore someone who actively participated in the passage of unjust laws that lead to persecution and murder of people.

  • Craig

    He thanked god for the death of 18 people when a strip club was destroyed in a massive explosion because he had prayed to god for it to happen (it should be noted that 15 of the deceased were firefighters and service workers with no connection to the strip club).

    Correction (from the Boston Globe article):

    A natural gas explosion rocked downtown Springfield on Friday
    evening, injuring 18 people after leveling a downtown strip club in the
    city’s entertainment district, state and city officials reported.

    None of the injuries were considered life-threatening, Springfield Mayor Domenic J. Sarno said.

    Also from Lively’s blog:

    We also thank God that no one was seriously injured in this blast, though it was enormous.

    Lively is thoroughly despicable, but facts are facts.


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